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Originally Posted by Melvinvanhorn
@Prohornblower-I guess I'm just a little surprised by your comments. You mention not being able to "hate" any movie-does this mean that you simply experience emotion while viewing a movie you dislike, and then forever put it out of your mind after seeing it? I guess I look at movies like any other from of media. Would you say that you in incapable of hating types of music or books as well?
I'm certainly more inclined to hate music than a movie. Bad music is hard to escape. It's played at sporting events, theme parks, elevators, dentist's offices, YouTube videos (people love ruining a good YT vid with horrible music - trying to "rep" their favorite flavor-of-the-month band), cars next to you at a red light, etc. I can easily acquire a massive disdain for bad music.
I can't recall the last time I was forced to watch a bad movie. I've never walked through a bookstore and had a hologram appear in front of me showing
Battlefield Earth. But you go to any bookstore and they will be playing some music (though usually it's not bad). If this happened, yeah, I could see growing a hatred for a movie. As it stands I just say "god that sucks" then change the channel anytime I see it on.
There's also a small disconnect between hating the art, and hating the people who tell you how great the art is. I definitely HATE when people tell me how good a movie is that I didn't like. "You didn't understand it" "You have to know the backstory" "You should read the book first" blah blah blah go die. But I don't seem to be passionate enough in my hate for the actual "art" (movie).
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Originally Posted by hotdogfallacy
woah hating on 2001 like that, is something i can't comprehend. i mean after 20 minutes of monkeys with bones, it becomes pretty obvious what kind of movie it's going to be. When I first saw it, I turned it off shortly after that scene, because it was clear to me I was not digging what was happening. The second time I saw it, I was blown away.
This. I saw a Kubrick doc when I was like 22 and they were talking about how epic 2001 was and how Spielberg called it "the 'big bang' for directors". So I rented it and thought it was the most dry, boring, terrible thing I'd ever seen. I asked my dad why people think that is good. Then, maybe 5 years later I watched it again and thought it was actually good. Then maybe a couple days later I watched it a third time and thought it was one of the best films I've ever seen. Also, I don't think I've seen 2010, but I don't think it has anything to do with that movie. I wouldn't relate the two but on a superficial level only.
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Once Upon a Time in America is a story about horrible people that we're actually supposed to like. They're awful, awful people - every one of them. And the end - jesus - are we supposed to believe that James Woods commits suicide by trash compactor? Really???
This is one of my favorite movies but I can agree with you about the people. You gotta have at least 1 person to "root for" methinks. DeNiro was supposed to be that guy, but I think they went too far with the rape scene. I think Leone lost some sympathy with that scene. The rest I could buy - poor turn-of-the-century kids growing up to be dastardly - not hard to buy. But the rape scene was kinda cringeworthy. It was like "WTF?"
I still don't know if he jumps in that compactor or not. It's obviously implied but it's hard to believe.