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11-02-2024 , 04:14 PM

Dominic

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For me: Bob Dylan.

I just don't get it, no matter how hard I've tried. Sure, the lyrics are interesting, but except for a handful of songs, they mostly bore me musically.

And although I will listen to a few of his songs if they happen to come on the radio, I have never willingly put on a Bob Dylan song or album.

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David Hockney

Seriously, what is this crap?
I've seen better art on the walls of a middle school hallway.

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What are yours?

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11-02-2024 , 04:56 PM

Rooksx

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,561

Agree with Bob Dylan. I've tried, but I dont like anything except "Like a Rolling Stone".

Paul Thomas Anderson films. I typically loathe his characters and want to get away from them.

Almodovar's films continue to be praised, but I think the last few have been dull.

Ai Wewei - totally behind his politics, his art though is tedious in its attempts to be provocative.

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11-02-2024 , 05:11 PM

zers

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2024 Posts: 348

Directors: Kubrick, Coppola, Nolan, Aronofsky

Music: The Beatles, The Doors, Hendrix, Queen, Prince, Nirvana

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11-02-2024 , 05:14 PM

zers

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I'd listen to more early Dylan, but the harmonica kills me. It's like nails on chalkboard. Otherwise, I dig the songs.

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11-02-2024 , 07:15 PM

g-bebe

because robots are strong

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Dylan is a good one. Great writer, bad artist.

Queen is my all-time top of this list. Drivel.

Wouldn't say he is universally acclaimed so it's more of just personal distaste, but Wes Anderson.

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11-02-2024 , 07:26 PM

zers

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Queen is my all-time top of this list. Drivel.

I actually think Queen is an objectively great band, insofar as such a thing can exist. They're just not my thing.

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11-02-2024 , 07:28 PM

Canceler

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For me, it's Billy Joel.

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11-02-2024 , 07:49 PM

mrbaseball

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Movies: Wes Anderson and Terrance Malick
Music: Nirvana and Radiohead
Anything with Mya Rudolph in it sucks because Mya Rudolph is in it

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11-02-2024 , 07:54 PM

lastcardcharlie

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Almost everything from the 21st century.

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11-03-2024 , 11:52 AM

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kioshk

Nixonian

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If pop culture criticism could be considered an art, I'll go with Chuck Klosterman. That dumb ****er is less than worthless.

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Mya Rudolph

Yes, she's truly wretched. I'm still bitter at how she ruined the latter episodes of The Grinder.

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11-03-2024 , 12:09 PM

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golddog

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Agree on Dylan, Nirvana, and Rudolph.

I'm not artistic, though, but quite straightforward and literal. So, I miss the sort of subtle things that you guys see in art/movies/music.

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11-03-2024 , 12:26 PM

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Rooksx

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I should have named Damien Hirst over Ai Weiwei. The leader of the British modern art con.

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11-04-2024 , 12:07 AM

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John Cole

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I like Hockney.

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11-04-2024 , 12:14 AM

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John Cole

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Bukowski.

I never quite got Almoldavar, but I think that's my fault.

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11-04-2024 , 02:02 AM

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zers

journeyman

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Bukowski.

Good one. I go back and forth, but it kind of depends on the mood. I still don't know what to make of him.

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11-04-2024 , 02:04 AM

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rickroll

Questionable Taste

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 26,627

Kant and most other philosophers can go suck on it as far as i'm concerned

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11-04-2024 , 02:51 AM

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zers

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Kant and most other philosophers can go suck on it as far as i'm concerned

"Most" implies that some philosophers should not suck it. In your opinion, who should not suck it?

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11-04-2024 , 03:04 AM

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rickroll

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i haven't read his work directly (planning on it but the idea of reading philosophy for fun again after all the ptsd it gave me in college means it's not a high priority), but this guy is the only one who's general ideas i've come across and not wanted to defecate upon his work

would you consider sun tzu, machiavelli, or robert greene philosophers?

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11-04-2024 , 03:12 AM

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zers

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I don't know, man.

0:51-1:02

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11-04-2024 , 11:35 AM

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Dominic

Tripod

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Phillip Roth

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11-04-2024 , 12:11 PM

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golddog

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Miles Davis. While I like his music enough, I guess, I'm generally not in the mood for such a long piece. I have no musical inclination or ability, so I don't get why it's great.

Obviously, this is on me, not the music.

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11-05-2024 , 12:39 AM

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Phat Mack

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Originally Posted by rickroll

Kant and most other philosophers can go suck on it as far as i'm concerned

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"Most" implies that some philosophers should not suck it. In your opinion, who should not suck it?

I think Shopenhauer and Nietche are hilariously funny, but I'm not sure they are trying to be.

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11-05-2024 , 12:47 AM

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Phat Mack

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Tool and Lil Wayne. It might be Little Wayne.

Chevy Chase, Albert Brooks, Will Ferrell.

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11-05-2024 , 12:59 AM

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zers

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Originally Posted by Phat Mack

Tool and Lil Wayne. It might be Little Wayne.

Chevy Chase, Albert Brooks, Will Ferrell.

The jury's out on Albert Brooks, and I love Chevy Chase, but I'm with you on the others, especially Tool. Can I add System of a Down to the list?

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11-05-2024 , 01:14 AM

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zers

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Originally Posted by Phat Mack

I think Shopenhauer and Nietche are hilariously funny, but I'm not sure they are trying to be.

Are we talkin' funny philosophers? I'll preface this by saying I haven't read much Hegel and don't know the original Kierkegaard quote, but I got a kick out of it. It's from a lecture by Peter Kreeft.

"[Kierkegaard] wrote that Hegel was a genius, and he might have been seen as the greatest thinker of all-time if only he had added a single sentence to his works, but the lack of that sentence made him a buffoon. The sentence is: 'Everything I have ever written is an elaborate joke.'"

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