Manhattan is pretty good so far, worth watching imo. About the development of the US atomic bomb. Important historical stuff.

Sleepy Hollow is packed with American history.

yeah, I can see that point of view about russ and the man. If I watch the series again, i'll keep that in mind.

The interesting thing about the show is that the people who watched it for the case wanted it longer. People like me wanted the show shorter, like maybe 2 episodes shorter. There were a couple of meandering episodes, and there are certainly issues with it (overcome by the acting and stunning visual style of the show). At the time, I thought it would be my favorite show of 2014, but both Hannibal and Fargo (especially) easily surpassed it for me. Fargo is probably my favorite TV experience since I've been in the industry (1994). I ate up every second of that show.

great. ill check out fargo, thanks for the recommendation.

Just finished up watching "Broad City"
It got a lot of love, but I just didn't 'get it' when the first couple episodes aired.
Went back and somewhere around ep 4 something kicked in. Actual out loud laughter.

I like Broad City too.

Beat Bobby Flay.

God I used to dislike him. He seemed like an arrogant prick.
He's either grown on me or he's changed his act. He's very likable now.

Similar concept as Throwdown. Compete against chefs cooking their signature dish.
But on Throwdown he practiced the dish beforehand.
On Beat Bobby Flay he learns the dish just before the bell rings and they have 45 minutes.

Has anyone else become a fan?

Good to see Series 3 of Borgen back to Aussie TV....liking the first two eps.

Fargo was great, would watch again. It's not perfect but it was meant to be entertaining and it definitely was.

I dont like all of these spoliers as it makes the conversation hard to follow, but at the same time I dont want to give anything away since the show hasnt been out that long. This is about the theory of how the preacher died.

It's been awhile since I've seen it, but no I don't take Rust's words at face value in any circumstances. There were multiple times where we saw action that did not match what he said, and I think he was constantly embellishing stories and re-writing history to make himself look better than he actually was.

When you're looking to connect the dots on the writing of a show, find out what the writers are doing. Then determine whether you think a shortfall of the show is a shortcoming of the writing or if it's...something else. For me, due to the overall high level of writing, that speaks to something else, but again, I haven't seen it since it ended so my memory could certainly be foggy.

More spoilers because I don't want to ruin it for those that haven't seen the show.

The last 2 eps being more in real-time took a lot of people out of it, sort of me included. The structure of the first 6 was perfection. It wasn't a bad choice by any stretch, but I liked that other way more. I don't know if would've worked had it been that way through 7eps, then half of the finale, with the last half being how it ended.

I think TD is my favorite of the year with Hannibal being a very close #2 (51:49) and Fargo at #3.

The thing that made the first couple of episodes for me was the editing. It had just an incredible pace and tone that was set purely through the editing. Then they decided to change editors for episodes 3 and 4 (I'm assuming it was an availability issue), and it completely changed the feel of the show, in my opinion (they completely changed the structure of the interrogations/interviews/flashbacks). I felt it hurt the show, and even though they brought back the original editor for episodes 5, 7, and 8, they couldn't recover how much different the show had become since his original two episodes. It's not that noticeable to a lot of people, but I think it was a huge error for the show to not have the exact same editor for all episodes (when you have the same director for all episodes). All editors have their own styles and shorthand, and there's just no way an editor can capture the exact speed and tone of another editor unless they're actually trying to. When you're in the work, though, you don't have time to think about that. The director has to get it as close as he can to that original vision, and hope for the best. One noteworthy thing is that the second editor was actually nominated for an EMMY for episode 4, which was fine and great out of context, but not so great in context with the first two episodes if you watch it purely for editing, in my opinion. I would have loved to have seen Alex Hall edit all of the episodes, just to see how much greater the show might have been.

To DC's note about TD, Hannibal, and Fargo, I think all three of those could be interchangeable in a lot of people's top 3 for 2014, solely based on taste. I love film noir, and that's a big reason why Fargo is #1 for me. That was just absolutely perfect modern noir, that wasn't cheesy at all. For me, it's Fargo A++, Hannibal A+, TD A, or something to that effect. We've been very spoiled in 2014.

+1 on Fargo. God I love Oliver Platt.

An Honourable Woman is really good.

I dont see why you are taking a hypothetical theory of two side characters (the two black detectives) over the word of one of the main characters. (MM)



Also can you give some examples of when MM embellished some stuff and the action didn't match what he was saying? Not doubting you, just cant think of any off the top of my head.

check out diggstown if you haven't (movie not a tv show).

he also had a memorable albeit brief role in the ice harvest.

As I said above, the best example is the Reggie LeDoux scene, but I'm sure there are others for when the conversation got personal, but again, it's been too long for that kind of detail for me to remember right now. That's hundreds of hours of TV watching back for me. I will re-visit it, but not yet. I've tended to screw up a lot of the small details on the show, due to the fact that I was so mesmerized by its artistic content. So, I could certainly have some stuff wrong here.

I've been evangelizing for You're the Worst all over 2p2, might as well do so here. It's the best new comedy I've seen in several years. It's hard and dark but not too mean or crazy to take seriously.

Lol, don't let RBK hear you say that

Does riverboatking not like You're the Worst? That's too bad. I think the world of it.