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Originally Posted by rapidacid
RDH, have you ever shown a picture of your setup? I'm just about to switch to AG brewing and am trying to design a system, or possibly go straight for a pre-built all in one setup like the Keggle Brewer ( $2,495 + tax + shipping )
Any suggestions / pit falls to avoid?
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Originally Posted by RunDownHouse
I'm sure I have somewhere but I can't seem to find them. I'll take some more and post them this weekend if I can remember. In any case, my setup is extremely ghetto, seeing as how brewers don't make much cash compensation. I'll PM you with details and advice unless the rest of the people in the thread say they care about that kind of thing.
OK, here's some from this weekend.
Overview-type shot:
As you can see I basically have a couple kegs and a piece of plywood as a makeshift table. Cinderblocks on the plywood serve to raise the height of my mash tun so that it can gravity drain to the kettle. The kettle itself is on a burner which, again, is on cinderblocks so that it is high enough to gravity drain to the fermenter.
My little mill. It sucks cranking 30lbs through this thing, takes forever but I just haven't had the time/money to hook up a corded drill.
Overall recommendations: I have two mash tuns, the 100qt monster you see above, and a 5g little guy. Both have problems. The 5g can't hold much grain, about 14lbs tops at a strike ratio of 1q/lb, and even that much grain means no mash out, small batch sparges, etc. 5g is really too small for much more than English milds, maybe American wheats, etc. On the other hand, the 100q is so big that if I put 14-15lbs of grain in it, it loses a lot of heat over 60 minutes. Just too much head space. I love being able to mash a whole 55lb bag of German Pilsner malt at once, if I want, but it's not so practical most of the time. So I'd say go with a MT that can do 10g of all-grain mash for most beers, but don't worry about needing room for your real monsters. If you're going to brew 10g of a 1.100 beer, you can sub extract and never know the difference.
As you can see, my brew "structure" is dirt cheap, which is the biggest pro it has. Something else I love, since I live in a small apartment, is that when I'm done, I can break it down. The kegs stack on each other, the plywood gets stood up against a wall, and it's out of sight, out of mind. The con is obviously that I do end up having to lift and move pots filled with hot liquid. My routine is that I mash in, mash out, and do two batch sparges. For the mash in, mash out, and each sparge, I have to get the hot liquor from the pot on the burner to my mash tun. Normally I take pitchers-full and scoop and dump until the pot is light enough to lift. After the first sparge and runoff is done, I scoop and dump my second sparge water into the mash tun, and then can put my boil kettle on the burner. For 12g batches, that's usually in the neighborhood of 8-9g of wort I need to lift from the ground up to my burner. It's a load, but nothing I ever think I can't physically do. Given that my setup uses one burner, one pump, and an improvised table, I can't imagine spending $2k+ on a brew structure. To not lift anything would require at least one more burner and another level OR another pump. That's ~$150, ~$300 max for the hardware and however much else for the structure.
Finally, if you're in an area with a fair number of breweries - especially production breweries over brewpubs - try swinging by and asking if they have any defective kegs laying around you could have or buy on the cheap. There's a good chance they will. If you can get a free 1/2bbl keg, you're a $30 weld job away from a 15.5g boil kettle. Finding a way to scavenge an old keg is MUCH cheaper than buying a $300 Blichmann brew pot.