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Old 09-01-2010, 02:59 PM   #2501
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I had Dogfish Head Saison Du Buff, it was pretty delicious. I think Victory and Stone all make the same beer but in different bottles.
I had this on draft last night and it was labeled as a 3 brewer collaboration with nobody getting top billing. This was a fine Saison.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:37 PM   #2502
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One reason why I don't drink stouts often is cause they're way more expensive than other beers.
Go with imperials. A good imperial stout is going to run you $12-16/6 but it is going to be 9-12% alcohol and be delicious.

To the Guinness is the worst beer I've tasted guy, did you never go to college? Top selling beers in the US:

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2. Budweiser
3. Miller Lite
4. Coors Light
5. Corona Extra
6. Natural Light
7. Heineken
8. Michelob Ultra Light
9. Busch Light
10. Miller High Life
These beers range from basically water (Coors Light) to downright offensive (Natty Light). These are also the kinds of beers I would consider to be Guinness' competition, even if they all are pale/light lagers and it is a "stout."
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:45 PM   #2503
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Go with imperials. A good imperial stout is going to run you $12-16/6 but it is going to be 9-12% alcohol and be delicious.
I have a big bottle of 2010 Firestone Parabola aging in the fridge, just the one bottle cost more than that. But it came in a cool box so I got that going for me.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:58 PM   #2504
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Yeah, I mean obv. if you want a really good one you'll pay more. I was talking about the few that are produced year-round and semi-widely distributed. Like Victory Storm King or North Coast Old Rasputin.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:37 PM   #2505
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Go with imperials. A good imperial stout is going to run you $12-16/6 but it is going to be 9-12% alcohol and be delicious.

To the Guinness is the worst beer I've tasted guy, did you never go to college? Top selling beers in the US:



These beers range from basically water (Coors Light) to downright offensive (Natty Light). These are also the kinds of beers I would consider to be Guinness' competition, even if they all are pale/light lagers and it is a "stout."
Weirdly enough I'd take all of those over Guinness without thinking. Those are all bad beers but are mostly tasteless to me with slight amounts of gross in them. Guinness on the other hand I can't stand at all. If I was at a party and all they had was natty I'd be ok with it, if the party only had Guinness I wouldn't drink. It's a combo of foul taste with nitrogen head that really makes me loathe it.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:41 PM   #2506
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For background, my favorite kind of beer is imperial stout. My top 5 beers would be

1) Alesmith Speedway Stout

2) Westvleteren #12

3) Lost Abbey Angels' Share

4) 3 Floyd's Darklord

5) Alesmith Yulesmith (winter)


The only other beers that are like Guinness that I think are not worth drinking in any context are three philosophers from ommegang and lost abbey's ten commandments

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Old 09-01-2010, 05:17 PM   #2507
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Had Sculpin's IPA, payed a good amount for a 22oz of it. I guess it was worth it, maybe I did not drink it cold enough but it was nothing spectacular.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:42 PM   #2508
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Sick life, huh?

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Old 09-01-2010, 11:24 PM   #2509
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Beer drinkers, I need your help:

So, I bought a JetBlue all you can jet pass because I'm unemployed and have nothing better to do than spend September flying all over the country. I will be going to:

Pittsburgh
Boston
Los Angeles
Seattle
Portland
San Francisco
Chicago
New York
Tampa
Washington, DC

I'm definitely going to try to tour a few of the breweries in Portland since I've heard that it's a great beer town. I won't necessarily have enough time in all of these places to tour many breweries, but I at least want to know if there's any local beers in any of these areas that are especially worth trying (or if there are any brewery tours you highly recommend).

FWIW, I'm no beer expert, but I tend to like hefeweizens or things along that line. I also drink Abita Amber quite a lot. I'm not a fan of the darker stuff--I tried Guinness once and hated it. When I'm forced to drink cheap big-name American stuff, I prefer Miller High Life or Coors Light. I hope that helps.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:52 PM   #2510
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Sick life, huh?
yes!

also im really excited about this week for beer. Founder's Breakfast stout, bell's oracle double ipa , Founder's Nemesis, great divide oak aged IPA, weyerbacher 15th anniversary smoked stout, imperial pumpkin, and terrapin/de proef collaboration red flanders ale all came in to liquor stores in Minneapolis this week!
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:46 AM   #2511
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yes!

also im really excited about this week for beer. Founder's Breakfast stout, bell's oracle double ipa , Founder's Nemesis, great divide oak aged IPA, weyerbacher 15th anniversary smoked stout, imperial pumpkin, and terrapin/de proef collaboration red flanders ale all came in to liquor stores in Minneapolis this week!
This may be my favorite post of this thread so far. Wait, not maybe. Definitely.

Is someone going to have all of the above?
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Old 09-02-2010, 06:25 AM   #2512
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The only other beers that are like Guinness that I think are not worth drinking in any context are three philosophers from ommegang and lost abbey's ten commandments

WAT

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How in the world is 3P like Guiness? No wai.
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:30 AM   #2513
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Beer drinkers, I need your help:

So, I bought a JetBlue all you can jet pass because I'm unemployed and have nothing better to do than spend September flying all over the country. I will be going to:

Pittsburgh
Boston
Los Angeles
Seattle
Portland
San Francisco
Chicago
New York
Tampa

Washington, DC

I'm definitely going to try to tour a few of the breweries in Portland since I've heard that it's a great beer town. I won't necessarily have enough time in all of these places to tour many breweries, but I at least want to know if there's any local beers in any of these areas that are especially worth trying (or if there are any brewery tours you highly recommend).
San Francisco - Magnolia
Chicago - Goose Island
New York - Brooklyn Brewery. Also hit up the Blind Tiger and The Gingerman in Manhattan.
Tampa - Cigar City Brewery, Brooksville Brewing Company (mine!), Tampa Bay Brewing Company (in Ybor City.)
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:44 AM   #2514
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Beer drinkers, I need your help:

So, I bought a JetBlue all you can jet pass because I'm unemployed and have nothing better to do than spend September flying all over the country. I will be going to:

Pittsburgh
Boston
Los Angeles
Seattle
Portland
San Francisco
Chicago
New York
Tampa
Washington, DC

I'm definitely going to try to tour a few of the breweries in Portland since I've heard that it's a great beer town. I won't necessarily have enough time in all of these places to tour many breweries, but I at least want to know if there's any local beers in any of these areas that are especially worth trying (or if there are any brewery tours you highly recommend).

FWIW, I'm no beer expert, but I tend to like hefeweizens or things along that line. I also drink Abita Amber quite a lot. I'm not a fan of the darker stuff--I tried Guinness once and hated it. When I'm forced to drink cheap big-name American stuff, I prefer Miller High Life or Coors Light. I hope that helps.
Do you know somebody in Pittsburgh that youre visiting? There really are alot of places to go other than Pitts, like Philly!!!

Come to Philly and tour 3-4 breweries in one day. Then finish the weekend with a drive down to Dog Fish.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:38 AM   #2515
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yes!

also im really excited about this week for beer. Founder's Breakfast stout, bell's oracle double ipa , Founder's Nemesis, great divide oak aged IPA, weyerbacher 15th anniversary smoked stout, imperial pumpkin, and terrapin/de proef collaboration red flanders ale all came in to liquor stores in Minneapolis this week!

Got some Oracle last night. Didnt think I was going to be able to with how limited it is. Very grateful. Drank one last night. Its quite tasty and the alcohol is extremely well hidden for 10.5%, but overall it doesnt compare to Hopslam. Nothing does though.....
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Chicago - Three Floyds!!!!, Goose Island
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WAT

three philosophers

How in the world is 3P like Guiness? No wai.
Not saying they're similar in style, just that they're both undrinkable for me. Don't know what it is exactly as I know a lot of people really like 3P but I've tried it twice and it's just been awful
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This is kind of old news but for anyone who doesnt already know. Discovery channel should be premiering a new show called "Brewed" hosted by Sam Calagione of DogFish which I am quite excited for.

I read about it like a 2 months ago but still have yet to hear a date for when it is airing.

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Old 09-03-2010, 12:43 AM   #2519
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Beerfest trip report! Website here.

This was Nashville 5th annual Brewer's Festival, and my third time going. This first time I went, I don't think tickets sold out until about halfway through the event. Last year, they sold out shortly after gates. This year, they were sold out a couple days beforehand. Thankfully I bought my tickets about a month in advance. The day started cloudy and raining, but by the 2pm start time there was no rain, and the sun would eventually come out.

The event is held at a big lawn/small park right in the heart of downtown. There's a big stage on one side of the square for bands, and the brewery's booths are arranged around the outside. This year there were a LOT more breweries, so they sort of had to do two concentric squares of booths.

I arrived with some friends from out of town at about 1:20, as in past years the lines to get in built up very large, very fast. RDH and friends were practically the first people in, and I made a beeline for a murderer's row of Terrapin, Yazoo, North Coast, Highland, Bridgeport, and Sweetwater. These booths were all in a row, so I knew where I'd be hanging out for a while. First disappointment: North Coast only brought one beer, their Red Seal ale. I've had this beer before, and its decent, but they make much more interesting stuff (Old Rasputin, PranQster), so I was pretty bummed they just had the red. Terrapin's rye pale ale was serviceable, with decent hop flavor and some mild bitterness. I liked it more than Yazoo's pale, which I've always thought a little off-balance with all those Amarillo hops they use in it.

I had never had anything from Highland before, although I've seen their beers popping up everywhere lately, so I was excited to check them out. First delight: their selection! They brought their Gaelic Ale (American amber), an Oatmeal Porter, their Kashmir IPA, and a Mocha Stout. I decided to pass on the Gaelic in favor of the more interesting styles, going with the IPA first. Impressions: not bad, but not great. I really think Stone has ruined me by putting me in this "Drown me in hops!" mindset when it comes to IPAs, so I thought this one was a bit too malty. I may have to pick up a sixer sometimes and reevaluate, though. Next I tried their Oatmeal Porter. I was absolutely blown away by this one. Very smooth, great roasted flavor without wandering into stout land, little hints of chocolate, and did I mention the great mouthfeel? I was really happy with this beer and will definitely check the rest of their stuff out. For the time being, though, I moved on and rubbernecked at Sweetwater (only had the 420 Pale and the Blue) both of which I've got at home atm) and Bridgeport, which was another big disappointment since they only brought their IPA, which I've also got at home. What's with these guys coming all the way to Nashville and only bringing one style?

From there, I made sure I went over to the Nashville homebrewer's club before I got too wasted to make sense. I met some nice people, got invited to a brew session in August, and sampled a summer ale which was good (maybe on par with Sam Adams', had a similar flavor). I introduced myself to one older gent with a full gray beard. On a quiet voice with long pauses at the end of each sentence, he said, "Oh, actually, my wife brews. She brewed this honey porter. Sometimes we do medieval reenactments. Y'know, hit each other with sticks." Bizarre, and I took my cue to leave.

I visited just about every brewery there. The highlights:

Alltech's Lexington Kentucky Brewery won my award for worst name and most unusual (unpalatable?) beer, their Bourbon Ale. I've had Oak-aged beers, and beers conditioned with bourbon chips, but this is the only one I've had that tasted EXACTLY like bourbon. It was disconcerting, and I could barely finish my 5oz sample. Chugging carbonated, low-power whiskey? No thanks.

I was incredibly excited to see Schlafly there, since I grew up in St. Louis. Grabbing a pale ale, I talked to a rep from the brewery who said they were working on a distribution deal that should be ready in the next few months. Sweet!

I had never heard of High Falls before, but one of the guys at the booth was an acquiantance from college. It turns out that High Falls is an AB sibsidiary, and he works for AB in marketing. They're apparently using it as a sort of pilot brewery and a way to capture market in the craft brews area. I don't recall much about their beer because I was involved in the conversation and intoxicated.

My favorite beer of the day was Flying Dog's pale. Now, I've had this beer before. I've had most of their others before. I've always thought of them as a decent brewery, but nothing spectacular (with the exception of the Gonzo Imperial Porter). But I was amazed by the pale, and I don't know why it was different this time around. It had incredible hop aroma - really great - without being too bitter. Perfect balance, but with that aroma rising off of it, I was in love. I went into the day expecting an exotic stout (Left Hand's Milk Stout was a bit too much for me) or an in-your-face IPA to be my favorite, but Flying Dog's Doggy Style pale took the cake. The girlfriend also really liked their golden ale, which is a bit bland for my tastes.
I quoted this because it was the only post that returned a hit for "sweetwater" and I wanted to talk about Sweetwater IPA. Also, I found it interesting that RDH mentioned Flying Dog Pale Ale which was one that I really thought was a good, interesting beer. I feel vindicated.

Anyway, this Sweetwater IPA was......surprising. Never had anything from Sweetwater, but I'm on vacation, saw they were from Atlanta, got a good score on BeerAdvocate, so I bought 6.

These things smell awesome. I could open one up and use it like a candle.

When I tasted it, one word came to mind: Grapefruit. I couldn't place the smell, but I finally placed the taste. It's not overpowering...but it's close. Kind of on the edge, but still great. I like how the citrus taste seems to take you halfway through the dry finish. It kind of cushions the fall, much like a Dodge Charger (this will make no sense in a month).

Anyway, I look forward to trying more of their stuff.
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Also, I got the brew kit in today.......and then I went on vacation for 4 days. I really, honestly thought long and hard on how I could fit all that **** into our car and bring it with me. I could not convince my wife that brewing beer in the condo was a good idea though, so it'll have to wait a few days, gdi.
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Plus transporting that carboy via car or air whichever mode of transportation you used might have gotten sloppy.

Whats the first batch gonna be?

I racked my Weizenbier this morning, had to squeeze it in before my afternoon flight to Vegas (Brag?). When I get back I'll be doing 2 batches next week, a Racer 5 clone and a Brown ale recipe kit from NB.

Bottle Conditioning: PSA IPA, Weizenbier
Primary: Oktoberfest
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On the docket: Racer 5 Clone, Caribou Slobber Brown Ale (lolz)
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I racked my Weizenbier this morning, had to squeeze it in before my afternoon flight to Vegas (Brag?). When I get back I'll be doing 2 batches next week, a Racer 5 clone and a Brown ale recipe kit from NB.
I leave for Vegas Sunday (brag!) but I'm just gonna leave the three brews I have going until I get back. Got a Chimay Red clone and Munich Dunkel in primaries and a Dortmunder in the secondary. Between those and the next batch to be brewed, gonna be busy when I get back! I guess I'll just give the Dunkel a week-long D-rest because it'll be too late by the time I get back.
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Plus transporting that carboy via car or air whichever mode of transportation you used might have gotten sloppy.

Whats the first batch gonna be?

I racked my Weizenbier this morning, had to squeeze it in before my afternoon flight to Vegas (Brag?). When I get back I'll be doing 2 batches next week, a Racer 5 clone and a Brown ale recipe kit from NB.

Bottle Conditioning: PSA IPA, Weizenbier
Primary: Oktoberfest
Secondary: Empty
On the docket: Racer 5 Clone, Caribou Slobber Brown Ale (lolz)
First batch is going to be a Fat Tire clone. Nothing too fancy. I hope.
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:19 PM   #2524
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Could I get some recommendations for pumpkin beer.
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:27 PM   #2525
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have heard pumpking from southern tier is supposed to be one of the best. im not a big fan of pumpkin beers, so i cant really comment.

had some 2010 founder's nemesis today. its like a dark barleywine with big pineapple flavored hops. a little hot right now fresh. i would like to put a few of these in my cellar and see how they turn out. unique beer. 3.25 out of 4.

going to try out some bell's oracle later may post up a quick review of that



i am brewing my first all grain batch (3rd batch overall) with my own recipe next weekend. brewing a saison with pils malt, a bit of wheat, caramunich, and table sugar to dry it out. then hopping with magnum and amarillo (wyeast 3711) and then possible adding a brett packet during fermentation. hope it turns out. just started brewing in general a few months ago and its surprising how easy it is if you do a little bit of research and prep work.

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