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Originally Posted by chillrob
That's a terrible review of The Dark Night. I enjoyed it greatly when it came out, and I don't honestly remember politics in it at all.
You're remembering wrong.
There's politics in everything. Even if TDK were more of a light entertainment, there would still be the angle of "ok, I'm watching a billionaire beat up on poor people and he's supposed to be a hero?"
In the case of TDK though, the politics are in the script pretty explicitly.
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
Baltimore,
Good post.
Did you feel the politics portrayed in TDK evolved into something else or more of the same in The Dark Knight Rises?
I agree that the politics are a huge part of the movie. The guy literally integrated an Occupy segment into TDKR LOL. That's deliberate on Nolan's part and fair for analysis.
I've seen TDKR just once, last year, and posted about it in the previous thread. Whatever politics it's trying to have were too confusing for me to figure out the first time, which actually makes me think higher of it. (Other critics take the opposite view, where they respect TDK more for being clear about it, even if they disagree with the politics. See Michael & Us:
https://soundcloud.com/michael-and-u...k-knight-rises, which continues to be my #1 podcast by far.)
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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
I agree with this as well.
Balt seems to want to put some political spin on everything.
(Although I agree with him on the ferry scene in TDK, not necessary and stops the flow of the film)
No need for Balt to slap the casual moviegoers either, I would like to think this thread is open to anyone posting an opinion on a movie.
Not just the erudite ones.
Yea, you're right. The negativity is more directed at the strawpeople who I imagined would say "lol why are you thinking about politics in a Batman movie?"
I only bother with the politics if they're super overt, super disagreeable, super agreeable, and/or I am not otherwise entertained. There's plenty of movies I like that technically have bad "politics".
TDK is borderline for me as entertainment and the politics push it down.
Another negative about it is that it throws a lot of philosophical garbage at the wall so that some of it sticks. This is common in movies that people think are really smart, such as Fight Club.
I wanted to write about what a bad moronic quote "die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" is, but I thought about it in the shower and it's accurate enough of the time that maybe it's decent.
Alfred, Joker, and Dent all have plenty of incoherent quotes with a couple of kernels of truth in there. It's 1,000 monkeys typing.
Harvey the character and his relationship with Rachel is all incredibly bad and eye-rolly too.