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02-16-2024 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
no other current filmmaker has the quality of body of work that Villenueve has. He's probably the best filmmaker on the planet.
I remember we talked about it briefly a couple of years back, but did you get to watch some of his Quebecois/pre-Hollywood films? I think you mentioned Polytechnique, right, which is absolutely great, but what about August 32nd on Earth (I wasn't such a big fan of Maelstrom, but the former is great ).
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02-16-2024 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooksx
It somehow escaped me that Dune will be a trilogy. I assumed that Part 2 will have a proper conclusion rather than a non-ending like Part 1. Am I completely wrong about that?

It’s not a trilogy. Dune part 2 isn’t even a sequel. These two movies are one book split into two parts. There are more Dune books but I haven’t heard or seen an official announcement that more movies are coming.
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02-16-2024 , 06:22 PM
I have my early access tickets for the 25th

Science Fiction Lawrence of Arabia.
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02-16-2024 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooksx
It somehow escaped me that Dune will be a trilogy. I assumed that Part 2 will have a proper conclusion rather than a non-ending like Part 1. Am I completely wrong about that?
I loved the books (the first 4 not the later ones, I never read those), but if I remember correctly, the first book had a somewhat unsatisfying ending.

Even though it did come to some sort of a climax, it wasn't even the full story of the main guy (Paul / Muadib).

The second book, Dune Messiah, is the conclusion of the story about him.
It was much shorter than the first book though, so probably would only take one (third) film to cover the same level of detail as the two for the first book. In the Sci-fi channel's miniseries, both books were merged into one series just called Dune.

The third book, Children Of Dune, was actually my favorite, and I also really liked the miniseries Sci-fi did with that one.

I also enjoyed the fourth, God Emperor Of Dune, but I thought it was really unfilmable, and I guess Sci-fi did as well, because they didn't attempt another miniseries based on that one.

Spoiler for why I considered it unfilmable below.

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IIRC, the main character is a person who has basically turned into a giant sandworm hybrid who cannot move. A big part of the book was just him talking with another character, which wouldn't be that interesting on film. I also can't imagine someone/something that is described as being pretty disgusting to look at being on camera for most of a movie.
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02-16-2024 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
I remember we talked about it briefly a couple of years back, but did you get to watch some of his Quebecois/pre-Hollywood films? I think you mentioned Polytechnique, right, which is absolutely great, but what about August 32nd on Earth (I wasn't such a big fan of Maelstrom, but the former is great ).
I haven't seen any of them except Polytechnique, but do have Incendies and Maelstrom in my queue.
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02-16-2024 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I haven't seen any of them except Polytechnique, but do have Incendies and Maelstrom in my queue.
ok, I would recommend August 32nd on Earth ahead of those 2, my two cents.
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02-17-2024 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
no other current filmmaker has the quality of body of work that Villenueve has. He's probably the best filmmaker on the planet.
Yeah hard to argue with that. Mann will always be my fav, though, ainec
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02-17-2024 , 01:56 PM


there is a Rebecca Miller (Daughter of Arthur Miller and former wife of Daniel Day-Lewis) artist appearance and book signing here in Las Vegas.

I am a big fan of Angela, though I do understand why it can be polarizing and hated.

If Sofia Coppola is hated, Rebecca is doubly so.
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02-17-2024 , 04:00 PM
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no other current filmmaker has the quality of body of work that Villenueve has. He's probably the best filmmaker on the planet.
Danny Boyle right up there too although doesn’t get near the recognition
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02-18-2024 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kevstreet
I am in the market to watch:

- Anatomy of a Fall
- The Holdovers
- American Fiction
- Past Lives

Anyone care to rank them for me to prioritize?

Just watched “Past Lives” and I loved it. Might’ve caught me on a good day, but it hit just right for me.
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02-18-2024 , 09:55 PM
On my 2023 rankings:

3. The Holdovers
7. Past Lives
8. American Fiction
13. Anatomy of a Fall

I gave them all 8/10 though.
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02-18-2024 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight
On my 2023 rankings:

3. The Holdovers
7. Past Lives
8. American Fiction
13. Anatomy of a Fall

I gave them all 8/10 though.

I appreciate your list; thank you.
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02-18-2024 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I loved the books (the first 4 not the later ones, I never read those), but if I remember correctly, the first book had a somewhat unsatisfying ending.

Even though it did come to some sort of a climax, it wasn't even the full story of the main guy (Paul / Muadib).

The second book, Dune Messiah, is the conclusion of the story about him.
It was much shorter than the first book though, so probably would only take one (third) film to cover the same level of detail as the two for the first book. In the Sci-fi channel's miniseries, both books were merged into one series just called Dune.

The third book, Children Of Dune, was actually my favorite, and I also really liked the miniseries Sci-fi did with that one.

I also enjoyed the fourth, God Emperor Of Dune, but I thought it was really unfilmable, and I guess Sci-fi did as well, because they didn't attempt another miniseries based on that one.

Spoiler for why I considered it unfilmable below.

Spoiler:
IIRC, the main character is a person who has basically turned into a giant sandworm hybrid who cannot move. A big part of the book was just him talking with another character, which wouldn't be that interesting on film. I also can't imagine someone/something that is described as being pretty disgusting to look at being on camera for most of a movie.
+1

If anyone's goal is to see the first several books in film version blended together nicely, then the Sci-Fi miniseries are the answer.
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02-19-2024 , 12:04 PM
American Fiction (2023) is about a fed-up author who writes a satirical novel, only for it to garner critical fame and pull him into a scandal. I think that's my best attempt at a one-line summary that keeps it vague but interesting.

It was great. Sharply written like a Sorkin screenplay but not to the point where it felt like the characters had all the perfect answers. Wright was fantastic, as was Sterling K. Brown who I usually don't like. The layers of the satire/parody were woven in beautifully. Won't win a thing awards wise, but along with The Holdovers, it just felt like one of these films that Hollywood produces less and less of nowadays.

4/5
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02-19-2024 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight
On my 2023 rankings:

3. The Holdovers
7. Past Lives
8. American Fiction
13. Anatomy of a Fall

I gave them all 8/10 though.
Do we get to see the rest?

I like that you discriminate. I can't assign number values to films, but I sort of agree with yours (although I would have Anatomy much higher).

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02-19-2024 , 07:11 PM


Ranking them is a pretty silly process tbh. Some movies need multiple watches, some are best the first time. It’s always fluid. If you go 15 years without watching something, how well can you say you liked it. Etc, etc, etc. Even a movie like Air that I saw in first third of 2023 - can I say for certain that I liked it more than Past Lives? Absolutely not. In fact, I’m sitting here looking at those rankings and I’m pretty sure I should change it lol.
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02-19-2024 , 10:34 PM
US was great until it kind of fell apart imo. I thought there was no way he could follow up Get Out with something good in such a short timeframe, but was pleasantly surprised by how good this was. Will definitely be seeing Nope at some point because of this.
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02-19-2024 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kevstreet
I am in the market to watch:

- Anatomy of a Fall
- The Holdovers
- American Fiction
- Past Lives

Anyone care to rank them for me to prioritize?
Anatomy of a Fall will be the winner of the 'Overlooked for Awards' award. It's the sort of intelligent, unflashy, nuanced film that provokes plentiful discussion but won't win a big prize, because awards (and the general public) like in your face movies. Sandra Huller should be a shoo-in for Best Actress.

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02-19-2024 , 11:49 PM
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Anatomy of a Fall will be the winner of the 'Overlooked for Awards' award. It's the sort of intelligent, unflashy, nuanced film that provokes plentiful discussion but won't win a big prize, because awards (and the general public) like in your face movies. Sandra Huller should be a shoo-in for Best Actress.
Sandra Huller is terrific. If you haven't seen Toni Erdmann, you should.

I'm going to see All of Us Strangers Wednesday night. I think Andrew Haigh's 45 Years was a great film, and it starred Charlotte Rampling, who even in her 70s is impossibly beautiful, and Tom Courtney. I'm looking forward to what Haigh does in Strangers.

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02-19-2024 , 11:52 PM
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Ranking them is a pretty silly process tbh. Some movies need multiple watches, some are best the first time. It’s always fluid. If you go 15 years without watching something, how well can you say you liked it. Etc, etc, etc. Even a movie like Air that I saw in first third of 2023 - can I say for certain that I liked it more than Past Lives? Absolutely not. In fact, I’m sitting here looking at those rankings and I’m pretty sure I should change it lol.
Some of my friends think I am a film snob, and when I tell them I loved Guardians of the Galaxy, they think I'm kidding. I'm all in favor of your ranking that and John Wick 4 in the top twenty.

I haven't seen Air, but given your recommendation, I will.

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02-20-2024 , 12:03 AM
air was hot garbage
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02-20-2024 , 12:18 AM
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Some of my friends think I am a film snob, and when I tell them I loved Guardians of the Galaxy, they think I'm kidding.
Whoever does Guardians has strong soundtrack skills.
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02-20-2024 , 01:07 AM
I enjoyed Air quite a bit
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02-20-2024 , 04:50 AM
Also enjoyed Air. Not the type of movie I'd expect to be called hot garbage either.
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02-20-2024 , 08:24 AM
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US was great until it kind of fell apart imo. I thought there was no way he could follow up Get Out with something good in such a short timeframe, but was pleasantly surprised by how good this was. Will definitely be seeing Nope at some point because of this.
Nope is the best of all of them by far imo

It finished and I was like “wait wtf was that” and then slowly over the next week couldn’t stop thinking about it and came to the realization that it’s great
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