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04-08-2023 , 04:17 PM
Watch the original for sure and then watch Owning Mahowny and have some ribs with no sauce on permanent stand by.
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04-08-2023 , 04:46 PM
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Watch the original for sure and then watch Owning Mahowny and have some ribs with no sauce on permanent stand by.
+1000. And California Split. And The Hustler.

I enjoyed The Gambler remake, most than many, but while my subjective mind took a liking to the remake - that fell short to the original, of course -, my objective one just could not assess that I was watching a good movie.

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04-08-2023 , 04:54 PM
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+1000. And California Split. And The Hustler.

I enjoyed The Gambler remake, most than many, but while my subjective took a liking to the remake - that fell short to the original, of course -, my objective mind just could not assess that it was a good movie.
California Split finally streaming on Prime! Usually is impossible to find.

I put Hard Eight up there with the ones you listed.
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04-08-2023 , 05:54 PM
I'm pretty sure California Split has been streaming on Prime for the last 2 or 3 years or so.

Just read a glowing review of this crazy Exemplum movie, gonna watch it on Tubi tonight.
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04-08-2023 , 09:03 PM
Just watched Roy Andersson's Songs From the Second Floor on Criterion. I'm not sure there's quite another filmmaker working today that's quite like him. I'm not quite sure what it's about or whether it's a comedy, satire, or tragedy. Probably a little of all three. As one of the characters says, "It's difficult being a human."

Or perhaps to paraphrase one character: You hope to put bread in the table and have a little fun in this life.

Great film featuring long takes, deep focus photography, and every take looks like some cold painting.

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04-09-2023 , 05:51 AM
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California Split finally streaming on Prime! Usually is impossible to find.

I put Hard Eight up there with the ones you listed.
I'm almost certain I saw California Split for free on YouTube.
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04-09-2023 , 01:33 PM
Gambler/Caan is a more grounded and realistic film...

Cincinnati Kid...
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04-09-2023 , 02:55 PM
A few to include like Uncut Gems, Croupier, The Cooler, The Color of Money.
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04-09-2023 , 07:52 PM
Rounders was on TV a couple weeks ago. I sometimes wonder how much of an impact it had in ushering in the poker boom. Was it more important than Moneymaker winning?

The opening poker scene is truly terrible. Why couldn't they consult with anyone who had basic poker knowledge? Why must every poker movie have string bets? Why would you have Mike say "I don't think you have spades" and then RAISE all in? He's already narrating. Why not have him narrate that he knows Teddy has spades, then he jams, then Teddy calls, then Mike flips his cards over and says "tough break" or some ****, and then Teddy says, "Tough break for you." And it would all be credible and not ******ed. There's a million ways you can do it, and they insist on the moron way.
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04-09-2023 , 08:52 PM
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Rounders was on TV a couple weeks ago. I sometimes wonder how much of an impact it had in ushering in the poker boom. Was it more important than Moneymaker winning?

The opening poker scene is truly terrible. Why couldn't they consult with anyone who had basic poker knowledge? Why must every poker movie have string bets? Why would you have Mike say "I don't think you have spades" and then RAISE all in? He's already narrating. Why not have him narrate that he knows Teddy has spades, then he jams, then Teddy calls, then Mike flips his cards over and says "tough break" or some ****, and then Teddy says, "Tough break for you." And it would all be credible and not ******ed. There's a million ways you can do it, and they insist on the moron way.
iirc a fairly respected nyc cash game pro did consult on the film and spoke quite openly how there are times when the director wants input but most of the time the director already has storyboarded and blocked a specific scene and loves the dialogue and really doesn't care at all when you tell them but none of this is credible

they may ask if a question like "should both players be wearing sunglasses or visors" and not want any secondary input explaining that the script has issues
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04-09-2023 , 10:43 PM
I've heard the same thing regarding consultants. I think LindyBeige was saying that he was brought on to consult for some historical film, and he said they just ignored everything he had to say, and he suspected they just wanted to list in the credits that they had a historian consultant. This in no way undermines my claim that they insist on the moron way. And it's kind of surprising. Maybe I overestimate producers and directors, but I wouldn't guess that they're dumb or self-sabotagingly arrogant (less sure on the latter). But imagine if you were producing a movie about fighter pilots, and you brought on a fighter pilot to consult, and he was like, "In the script you have the sergeant calling these guys soldiers, but no one uses that term in the Air Force. You should change it to airmen." Would you really be like, nah, **** the consultant, I'm going to keep it as soldier. I would change it because I wouldn't want to look like a moron, but I guess I'm a strange outlier.
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04-09-2023 , 10:44 PM
On Netflix, Ali Abbasi's Holy Spider. This is the same director who made Border. Holy Spider is the name given to a serial killer in Iran. A female journalist travels to the town where the murders are occurring in an effort to unravel the case. It's an intriguing film, and the ending is powerful.

Abbasi, who also directed the final two episodes of The Last of Us, is one to watch.

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04-10-2023 , 09:40 PM
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On Netflix, Ali Abbasi's Holy Spider. This is the same director who made Border. Holy Spider is the name given to a serial killer in Iran. A female journalist travels to the town where the murders are occurring in an effort to unravel the case. It's an intriguing film, and the ending is powerful.

Abbasi, who also directed the final two episodes of The Last of Us, is one to watch.

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Thanks. Following your movies again. Just watched it. General opinions for anyone:
Holy Spider was well made and scary. It is based on a true serial killer story in Iran in about 2001. From what I read it followed the actual events closely except for the journalist's face to face confrontation with the killer which in real life was done by a victim. Police were at a loss to solve the mounting murder cases which reaching 16. I was surprised by the film's very graphic depiction of the murders. I could see why the director was given a role in a violent zombie show like Last of Us. I had to take a break from watching it because it was getting too much. The Iranian government hated this film. Just when you think you can rest, the last few minutes of the movie shows a video interview, which from what I read, is a true reenactment of an actual event. And it was chilling.
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04-11-2023 , 12:00 AM
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Rounders was on TV a couple weeks ago. I sometimes wonder how much of an impact it had in ushering in the poker boom. Was it more important than Moneymaker winning?

The opening poker scene is truly terrible. Why couldn't they consult with anyone who had basic poker knowledge? Why must every poker movie have string bets? Why would you have Mike say "I don't think you have spades" and then RAISE all in? He's already narrating. Why not have him narrate that he knows Teddy has spades, then he jams, then Teddy calls, then Mike flips his cards over and says "tough break" or some ****, and then Teddy says, "Tough break for you." And it would all be credible and not ******ed. There's a million ways you can do it, and they insist on the moron way.
Most of the poker scenes in Rounders are ridiculous, but somehow I still liked the movie when bad poker in other films ruined them for me.

The craziest thing is when he walks in on his professor's 7 card stud game and from watching just 7th street he knows exactly what everyone has. And of course then everyone folds to the bluff for a single bet in a massive pot. And Mike's not even a stud player as far as we know.
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04-11-2023 , 10:20 PM
I can't recommend Bathtubs Over Broadway highly enough. Steve Young, a comedy writer for Dave Letterman, begins to pursue recordings of industrial shows that were performed at sales conventions for products such as bathroom fixtures, Silicone, John Deere, Ford, and the like. He begins to meet other collectors (Jello Biafra is one) and builds a vast collection. Then he begins to track down the composers and performers of these shows.

It's also a poignant documentary: He talks about not having friends outside of work, but makes new friends in his pursuit of all things industrial shows.

The ending of the Dave Letterman Show brings to a close his time with Letterman and a job he held for 25 years.

The industrial shows form a picture of America in the '50s, '60s, and '70s, a time when hope was high and the future looked bright.

The film ends on an almost unexpected joyous note and reminds us that even the pursuit of the odd and quirky can be meaningful and worthwhile.

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04-11-2023 , 10:49 PM
i like action movies and just found and liked and old Arnold movie called the last stand on nexflix. its an action movie.
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04-13-2023 , 02:04 AM
you guys talked about hard 8

it's free on youtube for a bit and they do rotate so watch now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWeiaOIv3Ag
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04-13-2023 , 03:51 AM
Air - it's a film about a shoe. Yes, really, it's a two hour film about the creation of a shoe. Quite enjoyable even if its subject matter is narrow. The 80s montage that opens the film is a bit pointless because there's no broader perspective of the 80s.

I dunno if the film makers had to make some strange deal with Michael Jordan because the camera is oddly reverential. You never see the actor's face, and he says one word while on the phone to Matt Damon.
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04-13-2023 , 10:23 AM
Just released in 4k UHD... it looks fantastic.




Did I ever tell you about the man who taught his A$$hole to talk?


His abdomen would move up and down you dig, farting out the words. It was unlike anything I had ever heard

This ass talk had a sort of gut frequency. It hit you right down there like you gotta go. You know when the old colon gives you the elbow and it feels sorta cold inside and you know all you have to do is turn loose? Well this talking hit you right down there, a bubbly, thick stagnant sound, a sound you could smell

This man worked for a carnival you dig, and to start with it was like a novelty ventriloquist act. Real funny too, at first. He had a number he called ‘The Better ‘Ole’ that was a scream, I tell you. I forget most of it but it was clever. Like, ‘Oh, I say, are you still down there old thing?’

’Nah! I had to go relieve myself.’

After a while the ass started talking on its own. He would go in without anything prepared and his ass would ad-lib and toss the gags back at him every time

Then it developed sort of teeth-like little raspy in curving hooks and started eating. He thought this was cute at first and built an act around it, but the A$$hole would eat its way through his pants and it started talking on the street, shouting out it wanted equal rights. It would get drunk, too, and have crying jags that nobody loved it, and that it wanted to be kissed the same as any other mouth. Finally it talked all the time day and night, you could hear him for blocks screaming at it to shut up, and beating it with his fist, and sticking candles up it, but nothing did any good and the A$$hole said to him: ‘It is you who will shut up in the end, Not me. Because we don’t need you around here any more. I can talk and eat and Shyte.'

“After that he began waking up in the morning with a transparent jelly, like a tadpole’s tail all over his mouth. This jelly was what the scientists call un-DT, Undifferentiated Tissue, which can grow into any kind of flesh on the human body. He would tear it off his mouth and the pieces would stick to his hands like burning gasoline jelly and grow there, grow anywhere on him a glob of it fell. So finally his mouth sealed over, and the whole head would have amputated spontaneously except for the eyes, you dig. That’s one thing the A$$hole couldn’t do was see. It needed the eyes. But nerve connections were blocked and infiltrated and atrophied so the brain couldn’t give orders any more. It was trapped in the skull, sealed off. For a while you could see the silent, helpless suffering of the brain behind the eyes, then finally the brain must have died because the eyes just went out, and there was no more feeling in them than a crab’s eye on the end of a stalk
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04-13-2023 , 02:06 PM
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Air - it's a film about a shoe. Yes, really, it's a two hour film about the creation of a shoe. Quite enjoyable even if its subject matter is narrow. The 80s montage that opens the film is a bit pointless because there's no broader perspective of the 80s.

I dunno if the film makers had to make some strange deal with Michael Jordan because the camera is oddly reverential. You never see the actor's face, and he says one word while on the phone to Matt Damon.
I've seen affleck interviewed about this. They intentionally did not show Jordan because they didn't want to humanize him. They wanted him to be a sort of mythical presence in the movie.
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04-13-2023 , 07:31 PM
Bo knows...
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04-15-2023 , 09:34 AM
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I've seen affleck interviewed about this. They intentionally did not show Jordan because they didn't want to humanize him. They wanted him to be a sort of mythical presence in the movie.
As it should be
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04-15-2023 , 09:45 AM
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I've seen affleck interviewed about this. They intentionally did not show Jordan because they didn't want to humanize him. They wanted him to be a sort of mythical presence in the movie.
Hoops fans revere Michael Jordan. One must be very careful as to how one treats him.
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04-15-2023 , 10:44 AM
Renfield... WAS F*CKING AWESOME!


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04-16-2023 , 11:21 AM
Scott Caan in One Day as a Lion - 3.5 out of 10

Starts off interesting but nothing really happens and kinda just ends. Some fun parts but not very worthwhile.
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