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Old 02-16-2019, 08:59 PM   #876
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Re: Talk About Movies: Part 4

interesting analysis by an amateur youtuber Roy Andersson's inspiration. guessing i'll have to rewatch the living trilogy.



for most of us history is just something that happens in the background

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Old 02-16-2019, 09:29 PM   #877
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Will Smith recently released this short, funny, three-minute video wherein he talks about why he declined the role of Neo in The Matrix.

Whose brain did this?



Didn't he turn down Django too? Must be so many stories like that.

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Old 02-16-2019, 09:31 PM   #878
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another very good analysis

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Old 02-16-2019, 11:32 PM   #879
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The Grey Zone 2001 Amazon Prime
8/10

Extremely raw and dark. It's about the Jews who are forced to work in the crematoria at Auschwitz. Thought the dialogue was very sharp. Keitel, David Arquette, Buscemi and some other familiar actors. Directed by Buster Scruggs (Tim Blake Nelson)

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Old 02-17-2019, 02:26 AM   #880
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No mentions yet of The Lego Movie 2?

When the first one came out I was skeptical, despite being a massive Lego fan when I was growing up. I skipped it in theaters, but I watched it on an airplane with MrsWookie, and we loved the hell out of it: fun characters, rapid fire referential humor, clever animation with everything in bricks, a whole-hearted embrace of everything it means to be Lego, and then a universe-shattering twist that completely changes your whole understanding of the movie for the better.

A sequel here couldn't possibly live up to the surprise and delight of the first one, because you already have that understanding of the universe, but this was absolutely a fitting sequel. This movie hits you with its biggest and most fun twist right out of the gate (not one that was spoiled in any trailer I saw), but it still saves some nice ones for the end. The movie consistently operates on multiple levels, much like the first: the main plot line, the knowledge of Legos qua Legos, the knowledge of American popular culture including meta-humor about movie tropes, and of course one other level that I won't give away for people unfamiliar with the series. Many jokes tend to hit on two or more of these at once, which I found impressive. About the only joke that fell flat for me was:

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Don't see this movie if you haven't seen the first. See the original first for sure. If you are somehow a soulless grownup who hates the first one, I guess don't see this one either. But if you loved the first, you'll definitely love this one.
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:17 AM   #881
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Re: Talk About Movies: Part 4

First one shocked me. I loved it. Itís one of a handful of movies over the past half decade Iíve seen 3+ times.
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Old 02-17-2019, 10:15 AM   #882
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Re: Talk About Movies: Part 4

I've seen the first, too, with my daughter and granddaughter. I loved it.
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:29 AM   #883
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Has anyone here seen the 4 hour version of David Lynch's Dune? It's on BBC channel right now... it's quite a bit different than the theatrical release.
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:38 AM   #884
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Watched Bohemian Rhapsody. Not impressed, and that press conference scene was downright horrible.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:10 PM   #885
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Has anyone here seen the 4 hour version of David Lynch's Dune? It's on BBC channel right now... it's quite a bit different than the theatrical release.
What??? Now I have to see this. Where can I find it, dammit??
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:47 PM   #886
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BBC channel... it's still on.
6:30 thru 10:30.
It's quite a bit different... not like missing scenes (though there is that), it's like the movie is completely re constructed. Some complete scenes are using different footage and editing.
Very interesting.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:48 PM   #887
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Re: Talk About Movies: Part 4

I'm watching it...are you sure it's not just long for commercials? It doesn't seem any different from what I've seen...

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The rough cut of Dune without post-production effects ran over four hours long but Lynch's intended cut of the film (as reflected in the seventh and final draft of the script) was almost three hours long. Universal and the film's financiers expected a standard, two-hour cut of the film. Dino De Laurentiis, his daughter Raffaella and Lynch excised numerous scenes, filmed new scenes that simplified or concentrated plot elements and added voice-over narrations, plus a new introduction by Virginia Madsen. Contrary to rumor, Lynch made no other version besides the theatrical cut. A TV version was aired in 1988 in two parts totalling 186 minutes including a "What happened last night" recap and second credit roll. Lynch disavowed this version and had his name removed from the credits, Alan Smithee being credited instead. This version (without recap and second credit roll) has occasionally been released on DVD as Dune: Extended Edition. Several longer versions have been spliced together.[13] Although Universal has approached Lynch for a possible director's cut, Lynch has declined every offer and prefers not to discuss Dune in interviews.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:54 PM   #888
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You donít need me to tell you, but Spotlight is quality from top to bottom. Man the acting is good. If its been #10 on your list for a while, watch it, even if youíre not that interested in the Catholic sex scandals. 9.5/10

Sorry to Bother You is probably the weirdest movie Ive ever seen that Iíd still call good. It goes completely off the rails in the third act, but I thought it was original and refreshing. My gf wanted off the ride tho. I think as a stand-alone story this movie works and the relevant social commentary takes it to the next level (more about class than race). Still trying to figure it all out and what it amounts to, but I recommend it. If you didnít know, the main rapper in The Coup (Boots Riley) directed it and thatís pretty cool. 8.5/10
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:59 PM   #889
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Yes Dom, if you could rewind to the beginning you would see the reconstruction. It's most prevalent for the first hour.
For example, there is no princess narration at the beginning of the film... it's a male voice and illustration drawings. The space navigator scene is completely different and dialog is changed.
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:05 PM   #890
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Re: Talk About Movies: Part 4

it's the extended version of Dune...I have seen this before...177 minutes long
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:32 PM   #891
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Re: Talk About Movies: Part 4

Dune

Theatrical cut: ~129-137min (137 on 2006 DVD)
TV cut: ~176-186min
Extended Edition DVD cut: 177 min (2006 DVD) (cleaned up version of the TV cut)


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The presentation on this edition is a drastic improvement from the original letterboxed release. On the flipside of the DVD is the alternate 2-hour 57-minute version cut for television. As many fans know, this 'extended' version was disowned by Lynch, who insisted his name be replaced by that famous Hollywood pseudonym "Alan Smithee;" the name used by directors whose film was taken away and recut against their wishes. There is some new material in the 14 minutes of deleted scenes offering a bit more background into the Bene Gesserit sisterhood, the Kwisatz Haderach prophecy and the Fremen culture and their struggle.
Introduction to Eye by Frank Herbert

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Filming Dune did something else. I have David to thank for teaching me to write screenplays. During that education, I was able to influence some decisions about the film, but I was unable to influence the ending or how much would be cut for the theater. From the approximately five hours of film in the original footage, only about two-fifths emerged from the cutting room.

What was cut?

Here's a partial list for the aficionados:

The confrontation between Stilgar (Everett McGill) and Duke Leto (Jurgen Prochnow) where Stilgar spits on the table -- the gift of his water.

Development of the relationship between Shadout Mapes (Linda Hunt) and Jessica (Francesca Annis).

Most of the love story between Paul Muad'Dib (Kyle MacLachlan) and Chani (Sean Young).

The fight where Paul kills a Fremen and cries (giving water to the dead).

Development of Kynes (Max Von Sydow) as the Imperial Planetologist and (most vital) the place of melange in a space-faring society.

The relationship between Paul and his mentors: Duncan Idaho (Richard Jordan); Thufir Hawat (Freddie Jones); Gurney Halleck (Patrick Stewart), and Dr. Yueh (Dean Stockwell).

The death of Thufir Hawat.

The relationship between Paul and the Fremen widow, Harah (Molly Wryn).

Scenes with Jessica and The Reverend Mother Mohiam (Sian Phillips) that would have made the Bene Gesserit sisterhood more understandable.

That's only a partial list.
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David Lynch (January 13, 2006) : "Dune, I didn't have final cut on. It's the only film I've made where I didn't have. I didn't technically have final cut on The Elephant Man (1980), but Mel Brooks gave it to me, and on Dune the film, I started selling out, even in the script phase, knowing I didn't have final cut, and I sold out, so it was a slow dying-the-death, and a terrible, terrible experience. I don't know how it happened, I trusted that it would work out, but it was very naive and, the wrong move. In those days, the maximum length they figured I could have is two hours and seventeen minutes, and that's what the film is, so they wouldn't lose a screening a day, so once again, it's money talking, and not for the film at all, and so it was like compacted, and it hurt it, it hurt it. There is no other version. There's more stuff, but even that is putrefied."

Here is an extensive shot-by-shot comparison between the theatrical & extended editions.




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Old 02-17-2019, 05:31 PM   #892
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That's the one... I had never seen it before
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:34 PM   #893
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You donít need me to tell you, but Spotlight is quality from top to bottom. Man the acting is good. If its been #10 on your list for a while, watch it, even if youíre not that interested in the Catholic sex scandals. 9.5/10
Oh yeah, the other weekend Dish had a free Showtime weekend. One night started with the last Naked Gun film, then Spotlight, then Molly's Game. I found that combination interesting, just to start.

I found Spotlight infuriating. Not because of the movie -- as Snoop Todd said, quality from top to bottom -- but because of the content. I guess that was part of the point -- we should get infuriated at injustices and abuse of power. Just totally pissed after watching, as in "Why the **** is the Catholic church allowed to still exist after this? How could any person with a sense of decency have looked the other way?" etc etc.

Anyway, I watched Molly's Game all the way through, but wasn't ever captivated. Never believed that she was going so far as to plead guilty to protect the identities of the players, then "bingo!" the judge saves her. Maybe that's the way it happened in real life, just didn't resonate with me.

I thought Idris Elba was great. Needed more of him, maybe make it more of a legal drama then a bio.
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:17 AM   #894
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Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954)





As Julie Adams passed away two weeks ago, it's a fitting time to re-watch what I think is one of the elite classic monster movies, right up there with Karloff's Frankenstein and Lugosi's Dracula. Sure the monster is obviously just a guy in a goofy rubber suit, but there are some fantastic shots in this film that work perfectly and clearly influenced later movies like Jaws. Much respect to stuntman Ricou Browning, who had to swim around in a rubber suit with no oxygen supply. There's one scene where the creature is set on fire and he has to dive into the water --great stuff. Later movies in this franchise would feature a suit with an oxygen tank, you can see the bubbles. Lame.

Also, Julia Adams is smokin' hot. Supporting actor Nestor Paiva steals the show as the swarthy river boatman. There's a great H.P. Lovecraft meets Heart of Darkenss vibe through the whole film. A+ stuff.
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:19 AM   #895
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CAN YOU EVER FORGIVE ME


An excellent movie.

Lead actress was amazing and the supporting cast was superb, albeit the co-lead was a bit contrived.

I may have never seen this but for a plane ride, and thankfully I did.

A story about literature and more.
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Velvet Buzzsaw

A cursed X is killing all of Y that are connected to X. Usually this X is a house or ancient relic and Y is vapid teenagers but this time its art killing art dealers and critics.

This movie feels like it was written by someone who knew the art world but didn't know too much about horror. Seeing it was written by the same guy that did Nightcrawler it makes sense. That movie's horror was that the incentives of TV News set it up so amoral psychopaths thrived in it, and you have the same feeling here that he was more interested in setting up the art world and exploring the mechanics and vapidity of it, which are kind of interesting. The actual killing set pieces themselves seemed a bit anti climatic or not that interesting

I'd saw watch it for a hangover movie or something like that.

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Old 02-18-2019, 02:58 PM   #897
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Velvet Buzzsaw was worth watching for the performances...other than that, it sucked
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Old 02-18-2019, 07:28 PM   #898
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Roma - 6/10
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Old 02-18-2019, 07:50 PM   #899
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Part of me wants to watch Roma because it is the odds on favourite for Best Picture and I like to know what all the contenders are about, however the other part of me knows I'll probably be bored to tears. I'm torn.
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Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954)





As Julie Adams passed away two weeks ago, it's a fitting time to re-watch what I think is one of the elite classic monster movies, right up there with Karloff's Frankenstein and Lugosi's Dracula. Sure the monster is obviously just a guy in a goofy rubber suit, but there are some fantastic shots in this film that work perfectly and clearly influenced later movies like Jaws. Much respect to stuntman Ricou Browning, who had to swim around in a rubber suit with no oxygen supply. There's one scene where the creature is set on fire and he has to dive into the water --great stuff. Later movies in this franchise would feature a suit with an oxygen tank, you can see the bubbles. Lame.

Also, Julia Adams is smokin' hot. Supporting actor Nestor Paiva steals the show as the swarthy river boatman. There's a great H.P. Lovecraft meets Heart of Darkenss vibe through the whole film. A+ stuff.
I remember seeing that on Saturday afternoon's "Creature Feauture" with Dr Paul Bearer.

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