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Old Yesterday, 08:40 AM   #376
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it has great reviews, but IMO it's good, not great. it's not quite your standard zzz oscar bait like the imitation game, but sadly it's not that far off - the movie never really seems to catch fire. i'm not an enormous la la land fan, but i would still say this is the weakest of the three you listed.

but yes it's worth $2.
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The Big Sleep is such a classic. Bogart and Bacall, Chandler and Faulkner. Pure class all the way.
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I love that movie so much
Easily my favorite of all time. I've watched this movie more often than any other. It used to bother me a little that it made no sense, but now I think it just adds to the whole experience.

If I'm at home, and I've got something important that needs to be done, and it's brought to my attention that Big Sleep is on TCM, well -- somebody's going to have to wait a couple of hours.

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Old Yesterday, 02:52 PM   #378
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The best thing about The Big Sleep is that every time I watch it's like seeing a brand new movie because it makes no real sense. You remember scenes but have no idea what may happen next. It's always a mystery to me. Even immediately after I watch it I can't really describe it.
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Old Yesterday, 04:18 PM   #379
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The best thing about The Big Sleep is that every time I watch it's like seeing a brand new movie because it makes no real sense. You remember scenes but have no idea what may happen next. It's always a mystery to me. Even immediately after I watch it I can't really describe it.
Which seems to be the usual critical appraisal. But I love it too.
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My favorite story about The Big Sleep is how, in the middle of shooting it, no one could figure out who killed the Chauffeur, so they called up Chandler and asked him. He didn't know, either.
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If you look at Chinatown Screenpoint 144 (Exterior Courtyard Veranda -- Gittes & Cross at Breakfast) et seq., you'll see how much the Big Sleep Bogart & Bacall first encounter scene influenced others.
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So great, and also the guy who plays the gangster Canino just nails it.

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How do I take my brandy? In a glass.
So many great lines courtesy of Chandler. Having recently read the book, It's sort of amazing to me they were able to make a movie script of it that's faithful to the source material, given that nudity, pornography, and homosexuality are all central to the plot of the book.

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The best thing about The Big Sleep is that every time I watch it's like seeing a brand new movie because it makes no real sense.
I think there's a few things that didn't translate well because of all the stuff they weren't allowed to put in a movie. It's sort of confusing why the kid wants to avenge the death of the porn distributor guy.
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The Big Sleep's plot is border-line incomprehensible, but the chemistry between Bogart and Bacall and the cracking dialogue more than make up for it. The script really is excellent in that regard; humour generally dates badly yet 70 years later, it's still so funny.
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Whew. I thought I was the only one who thought the movie made no sense.
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Old Today, 10:30 AM   #387
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Re: Talk About Movies: Part 4

I've never seen any of The Big Sleep, but watching that YouTube clip above, I wouldn't be able to stand it. It doesn't bother you guys that the dialogue and interaction is so obviously staged? It has the feel of a high school play to me—obviously memorized lines given at a quick-patter pace, trying their hardest to exude wit and style. It's like a distant forerunner to Sorkin's scripts, which also cause me to eye roll so much I can hardly watch the screen.
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I've never seen any of The Big Sleep, but watching that YouTube clip above, I wouldn't be able to stand it. It doesn't bother you guys that the dialogue and interaction is so obviously staged? It has the feel of a high school play to me—obviously memorized lines given at a quick-patter pace, trying their hardest to exude wit and style. It's like a distant forerunner to Sorkin's scripts, which also cause me to eye roll so much I can hardly watch the screen.
That is all part of the allure for me. Bogart Bacall interactions bring me joy.
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My favorite story about The Big Sleep is how, in the middle of shooting it, no one could figure out who killed the Chauffeur, so they called up Chandler and asked him. He didn't know, either.
I read the book two, or maybe even three times before I felt I had a handle on what was going on. At first I assumed that the movie makers had tried to make sense, but had failed. I eventually realized that they hadn't, but had tried to tell a story and succeeded. It seems that certain types of consistencies are necessary for storytelling, but other types don't matter at all.
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