Doing some searching on Romy Schnneider I came across this wonderful short on her and french cinema... some of you have probably seen it before.

the movie is experiential... even if you don't like the subject mater, premise and execution, it should really be experienced firsthand to draw your own conclusions on the merits and qualities.

don't expect to come away from this movie feeling good... it's quite frightening on a humanistic level. I'm not scared of some narcissistic idiot that thinks hes important... I am scare about what he represents.

I'm going to see it again today... just because I feel drawn to it.

^ I think that might be to literal of an interpretation of what is going on with this film. Hopefully, this is not a linear story line with multiple episodes planned... I hope this is a one and done.

besides... where the fak are they going to get more period correct yellow cabs from

I frankly don't see any 'gold standard' in Ledgers performance, in my humble opinion... he was very competent (and more importantly, convincing) but I don't look upon that performance as awe inspiring or overtly memorable... it's more like 'bronze' than golden.

I understand that the overwhelming majority of film fans do not agree... but my view stands.

and before you happen to say that I just didn't like the movie, I just purchased these art works this very morning.



and I am trying my best to get one of these wall sized pieces... because I have space for it.

I feel the same way. I am not super interested in some deep exploration of the incel mentality so we can feel sympathy for deplorables.

I might go see it but I feel a strong push from it.

I think it's interesting that so many people don't want to see it because of the subject matter.

To me, it would be like saying that you don't want to see Requiem because you don't want to spend 2 hours watching addiction, or Fight Club because you're opposed to toxic masculinity.

Incels and deplorables don’t deserve sympathy and I’m not very interested in some deep inner analysis of why they are awful people.

It's more because I think Todd Phillips is an ass-hat and don't want to support him.

I think there's definitely social commentary in the movie about how mental health is neglected in society but I think the movie does walk the line well in not making Joker too sympathetic,

Oh God... They made his origin story centered around incels?

Funny story, that whole notion and terminology was created by a woman originally who was trying to help people adapt to the dating world before it got hijacked as an excuse to hate the world

Yeh there’s a great Reply All podcast that interviews her. It’s not just the term, but she also modded the first incel forum, which was well intentioned initially and then got overrun by weirdos. She’s horrified about what happened and has tried to intervene, but what ya gonna do.

wtf is/are incels?

loser men who don't know how to get a girl, so they think the world owes them something

oh man, search it on reddit, see their point of view from their subs, it's quite the rabbit hole

it stands for "involuntarily celibate" and they feel the entire world is conspiring against them

Imagine Joaquin Phoenix getting tied down to a franchise and playing the same role over and over again.

what in the ****.

Joker: Psycho for Millennials.

Mandy is such a masterpiece, I'm itching to see it for a third time. Can we talk about how next-level the soundtrack is?

I don't know what the connection between Joker and incels is, but it's overstated.

That Mandy soundtrack is elite....shame that it was Johannson's last one.

Joker - 8/10 (Must See)

Some catching up:

Ad Astra

47 BPM: For the future of Mankind!

Nothing on the surface: Pirates! Moon buggies! WTF!

Mayday from Norway: Planet of the Apes! WTF!

Rage!

They are using me: Goddam them!

Nothing fits: In the current political climate!

What's with: All the psych evals?

Buck Rogers: No, Hamlet!

I regret to inform you: That all crew members are deceased!

HAL: Now being played by a down lineman from Harvard.

Why go on: Why keep trying?

We're: All we've got!

I am focused on the essentials: To the exclusion of all else.

I had a great time watching this. Visually stunning on the big screen. Pitt nails it. Rather than a dramatic whole, it's a string of episodes that make no sense whatsoever. Check it out!

Joker

You: Complete me.

I'd give it up: In a heartbeat.

Hey Arthur: You're a really good clown.

Music: Like a toothache.

Let's use public transportation: Send in the clowns!

I walked into: Such a sad time at the station!

As I walked out: Felt my own need just beginning!

Homicide: Dance therapy.

No more: Incel.

"Gotham has lost its way!": Donald J. Baldwin.

Off his meds: Jimmy Durante.

Are you available: Next Thursday?

A boy's best friend: Is his mother.

Let's use public transportation(redux): French Connection!

I walked into: Such a sad time at the station!

As I walked out: Felt my own need just beginning!

More dance therapy: check.

Now: I'm the Joker!

More dance therapy: check.

Here's: Johnny!

Visually interesting. Compelling unrelenting music. Bears no relationship to anything I've read about it. Had my backpack checked entering the lobby. Joaquin Phoenix! Check it out!

First Love

So broke down and saw Joker.

It's very well done, with an amazing score and production design, and a truly great performance by Phoenix.

I like it as an origin story for both Joker and Batman - it makes sense as a realistic, adult version of that comic book world.

I think Robert DeNiro was miscast - he doesn't do "cuddly, beloved TV host" very well. He's just too menacing.

It's also reminds one of a lot of other, better films: Taxi Driver, The King of Comedy, Fight Club....and others....and that make it perhaps less great on its own.

It's also got something worth saying, even if it's a fairly obvious point.

Interesting....still thinking about it.