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05-25-2024 , 12:57 AM
Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga was good, but also unnecessary. Stylistically it was similar while feeling unique from its predecessor. I don't know what to think of ATJ, I can't tell if she's a good actress or not or if she just excels at that awkward, nervous, angry look that she uses in every film. Hemsworth was an interesting choice as I never associate him as a villain. Most of the technical components, set designs, costumes, action pieces, were all good; minor gripe was that portions of the dialogue were hard to decipher and I think that was an editing issue.

The major takeaway though was how much Furiosa just further elevated Fury Road for me. Furiosa weaves in more of a story element and as a result the first half drags in comparison to the breakneck pace of Fury Road; they take a while to set the stage and paint Furiosa's background and it lands, but in a flat sort of way. Fury Road starts fast and finishes even faster, and the action and explosions look and felt more authentic. It knew what it wanted to be from the very first shot, and it never deviated or tried to be something else. Near perfection IMO.

I'd give Furiosa 7.5/10. And I'd bump Fury Road from a 9 to a 9.5/10. Don't mean to make this such a comparison between the two but it's hard not to. MMFR is an all time great movie.
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05-25-2024 , 06:10 AM
Anya Taylor Joy didn't have enough to do. So many characters had more dialogue than she did.
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05-25-2024 , 08:38 AM
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How the hell has anyone over 50 not seen The Princess Bride?
Just lucky.
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05-25-2024 , 09:35 AM
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Anya Taylor Joy didn't have enough to do. So many characters had more dialogue than she did.
Wasn’t this the big complaint about Max in Fury Road?
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05-25-2024 , 12:58 PM
New Beetlejuice? Had no idea. Incredible trailer
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05-25-2024 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by g-bebe
Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga was good, but also unnecessary. Stylistically it was similar while feeling unique from its predecessor. I don't know what to think of ATJ, I can't tell if she's a good actress or not or if she just excels at that awkward, nervous, angry look that she uses in every film. Hemsworth was an interesting choice as I never associate him as a villain. Most of the technical components, set designs, costumes, action pieces, were all good; minor gripe was that portions of the dialogue were hard to decipher and I think that was an editing issue.

The major takeaway though was how much Furiosa just further elevated Fury Road for me. Furiosa weaves in more of a story element and as a result the first half drags in comparison to the breakneck pace of Fury Road; they take a while to set the stage and paint Furiosa's background and it lands, but in a flat sort of way. Fury Road starts fast and finishes even faster, and the action and explosions look and felt more authentic. It knew what it wanted to be from the very first shot, and it never deviated or tried to be something else. Near perfection IMO.

I'd give Furiosa 7.5/10. And I'd bump Fury Road from a 9 to a 9.5/10. Don't mean to make this such a comparison between the two but it's hard not to. MMFR is an all time great movie.
I agree with Fury Road’s greatness. Felt to me like an instant modern classic, completely unique. Also agree about Anna T-J being very average.

There are some super entertaining reads about the notorious making of Fury Road

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/m...e=articleShare

https://www.vulture.com/article/oral...ze-theron.html
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05-25-2024 , 03:55 PM
Fury Road is an all-time great film....I don't expect Furiosa to match that, but I assume it will be entertaining.
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05-25-2024 , 04:30 PM
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Wasn’t this the big complaint about Max in Fury Road?
True! Although in Fury Road Furiosa took over as protagonist. There isn't another protagonist in her own movie, yet she doesn't feel prominent enough.
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05-25-2024 , 06:49 PM
meh, who needs dialog? It ain't Shakespeare. It's Miller.
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05-25-2024 , 07:10 PM
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meh, who needs dialog? It ain't Shakespeare. It's Miller.
There is plenty of dialogue in Furiosa though, just not coming out of Furiosa's mouth. Maybe ATJ doesn't have the screen presence to make that work.
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05-25-2024 , 10:34 PM
Um, have you seen Queens Gambit? One Night In Soho? Emma? ATJ is a movie star and is fantastic.
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05-26-2024 , 02:13 AM
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Um, have you seen Queens Gambit? One Night In Soho? Emma? ATJ is a movie star and is fantastic.
Have you seen Furiosa yet? Be ause that's what we're talking about and you said earlier you haven't.
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05-26-2024 , 02:46 AM
No, seeing it tomorrow. But you said she didn't have screen presence. I gave you films where I think she does.

Add The Witch and The Northman to that.

But I'll let you know what I think about Furiosa soon.
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05-26-2024 , 06:54 AM
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I ask my friend if she wouldn't mind taking me somewhere, and she replied, "As you wish."

Hey, are you quoting The Princess Bride at me.

"Nope. Never seen it."

"Inconceivable."

How the hell has anyone over 50 not seen The Princess Bride?

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It's never sounded at all interesting to me, even when described by someone who loves it.
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05-26-2024 , 06:56 AM
Don't feel bad, its no Die Hard.

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05-26-2024 , 07:06 AM
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Don't feel bad, its no Die Hard.

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Another one I have never seen and have no desire to see. It doesn't look at all interesting.
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05-26-2024 , 07:25 AM
chillrob isn’t like other moviegoers.
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05-26-2024 , 07:26 AM
Ok, ok, we get it.

You're not cool.
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05-26-2024 , 07:26 AM
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chillrob isn’t like other moviegoers.
But I still love him

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05-26-2024 , 07:31 AM
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chillrob isn’t like other moviegoers.
I've also never seen Die Hard and hopefully never will.
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05-26-2024 , 12:27 PM
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I've also never seen Die Hard and hopefully never will.
Was great as a young lad when it came out, but would not want to see it nowadays, no. Titanic and Jurissac Park are 2 of the widely viewed films that I have never seen and have no desire to do so.
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05-26-2024 , 12:31 PM
Hey, I've seen and loved La Region Central and Satantango, but also enjoyed Diehard and The Princess Bride although I wish Buttercup were more like the one in the novel.

Yesterday I watched About Dry Grasses, another over three hours epic from Nuri Bilge Ceylon. Two middle school teachers are accused, wrongly, of inappropriate behavior with female students. Both men are attracted to a teacher at a school in a nearby town who had her leg amputated while at a protest. The town where they teach is covered in snow, and we only see the dry grass at the end of the film.

One of the characters says at the beginning of the film that everybody lies, even, it seems, to themselves.

It's a great film, but it does require patience. There's also one astonishing scene near the end of the film that is totally unexpected. Filmmakers lie too.

Available on Criterion.

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05-26-2024 , 01:04 PM
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One of the characters says at the beginning of the film that everybody lies, even, it seems, to themselves.
That's what Dr. House says too. And also Jesus iirc.
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05-26-2024 , 02:02 PM
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There is plenty of dialogue in Furiosa though, just not coming out of Furiosa's mouth. Maybe ATJ doesn't have the screen presence to make that work.

You think George Miller limited ATJ's dialogue because she can't act? That's a take. There wasn't much dialogue from Hardy in Fury Road - does the same take apply?

I thought ATJ was great and did a hell of a job with the role as Theron did in Fury. Excellent movie.
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05-26-2024 , 02:34 PM
I think Theron did a much better job, but also that Fury Road gave her more to work with on the character than Furiosa did.

ATJ seems very one-note-y to me.
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