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05-17-2024 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I hate CGI apes and monsters. There's no drama there, no sense of reality.

It's why I don't care for the latest Planet Of the Apes movies...they dont look real. The 1968 movie or even the Market Mark one was better because you had a tors in ale costumes. Paul Giamatti as an orangutan was awesome.
I thought you liked modern monster movies. Aren't they all CGI at this point? Unless maybe I'm confusing you with someone else. There are (to me) a surprising number of people here who like Godzilla movies.
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05-17-2024 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
ya but Mann and QT don't make you want to curl up in a ball in a cold shower.

the old lady storyline was especially depressing but man soon as I finished requiem I was just absolutely positive I was never gonna watch it again and hopefully never think about it again either.
Yep, Requiem easily most disturbing movie I’ve seen still. Maybe because of age when I watched it, was in college and couldn’t stop thinking about it for awhile (esp old lady)
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05-17-2024 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOneWhoYawns
Yep, Requiem easily most disturbing movie I’ve seen still. Maybe because of age when I watched it, was in college and couldn’t stop thinking about it for awhile (esp old lady)
ya same and I was doing a whole bunch of psychedelics so that didn't help either.

guessing it wouldn't **** me up as much if I watched it as a square sober old man but we'll never know cuz no way in hell I'm ever watching it again.

unless of course somehow bill perkins reads this thread n decides he wants to make another laughably -ev prop bet n pay me a whole bunch of money just to make me suffer.

BOY I SURE WOULD HATE THAT.
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05-17-2024 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I thought you liked modern monster movies. Aren't they all CGI at this point? Unless maybe I'm confusing you with someone else. There are (to me) a surprising number of people here who like Godzilla movies.
I love Godzilla lol...the Minus One movie was fantastic...and maybe CGI Godzilla looks better because he's not based on a real animal, like King Kong is. CGI apes do not look real at all.
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05-17-2024 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOneWhoYawns
Yep, Requiem easily most disturbing movie I’ve seen still. Maybe because of age when I watched it, was in college and couldn’t stop thinking about it for awhile (esp old lady)
We had this discussion a few years back about the most disturbing movies ever, and I am with the consensus (of yesteryears) that it is Martyr and A Serbian Film and perhaps Irreversible as well.

https://thecinemaholic.com/best-disturbing-movies/
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05-17-2024 , 02:23 PM
Henry: Portrat Of A Serial Killer was thoroughly grim and depressing. The group of young lads a few rows in front of us clearly went along expecting to see some blood flowing hilariously, but soon fell silent. A disturbing but good film.

On the subject of drug addiction, I saw Christiane F as a teenager and it was an overwhelmingly bleak experience.
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05-17-2024 , 02:24 PM
A Serbian Film is beyond ****ed up. There’s a certain beauty in Requiem, but I’d definitely never watch A Serbian Film ever again.
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05-17-2024 , 02:51 PM
Enter the Void was pretty damn disturbing [SPOIL]especially the end where a baby's birth is filmed from it's perspective being born from his sister [SPOIL]
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05-17-2024 , 08:09 PM
Salo is quite disturbing. So is Martyrs. A Serbian Film is so over the top silly that it's hard to really take it seriously. But after watching the Guinea Pig movies as a teenager, that pretty much numbed me to everything that came after lol.

Requiem is very bleak, but I don't think it's any more disturbing than several other movies dealing with the same subject matter. Also, one thing that always bugged me was that they always had that shot of their eyes dilating whenever they took heroin. Seems like a very weird thing to get wrong.
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05-17-2024 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic

Past Lives is still my favorite movie from last year.



I completely agree. I don’t know if I’ve ever posted about a movie on social media before but it was worth it for the 4 people that liked my post.
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05-17-2024 , 09:42 PM
Can't think of a more melancholic movie
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05-18-2024 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by D1iabol1cal
Salo is quite disturbing. So is Martyrs. A Serbian Film is so over the top silly that it's hard to really take it seriously. But after watching the Guinea Pig movies as a teenager, that pretty much numbed me to everything that came after lol.

Requiem is very bleak, but I don't think it's any more disturbing than several other movies dealing with the same subject matter. Also, one thing that always bugged me was that they always had that shot of their eyes dilating whenever they took heroin. Seems like a very weird thing to get wrong.
That’s always been my opinion of A Serbian Film as well. I found Martyrs fascinating more than disturbing but Salo made me actually throw up. And I watched that one during the pandemic just to cross it off of the list. Irreversible is probably my pick for what got to me the most. And Enter The Void is probably what turned me off from seeking out those kind of films at all. I’ll watch some that are strongly recommended but I tend to stay from most of them now. I feel like I’ve seen all of the main ones you’re supposed to see. If something new comes out that blows minds, I’ll probably check it out just because of how rare it is to surprise me anymore
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05-18-2024 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I love Godzilla lol...the Minus One movie was fantastic...and maybe CGI Godzilla looks better because he's not based on a real animal, like King Kong is. CGI apes do not look real at all.
Do you just mean they don't look like real apes? Or you really can't get it out of your head that they are CGI? They aren't really supposed to look like modern apes.

I enjoy all iterations of Planet Of The Apes, even though they obviously aren't real. But I have had big problems with what I found to be the very fake looking CGI in movies from 20 years or so ago. One in particular was the Lord Of The Rings movies, which everyone else seemed to love. I had many problems with them, but a big one was that all the CGI characters looked fake, especially in the way they moved. The modern CGI is so much better, especially in the ape films where they film human actors then feed that into the computer.
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05-18-2024 , 06:30 AM
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (1974)
Washed up piano player Warren Oates traverses through Mexico to deliver the fly-covered head of a dead gigolo who impregnated the daughter of a vengeful kingpin in this sweaty and slightly surreal thriller. This is Peckinpah at his sleaziest and I gotta say no decade does grittiness quite like those bad old 70s.

Quest for Fire (1981)
Everett McGill and Ron Perlman's Neanderthal tribe go on an odyssey across the neolithic landscape in their quest for a fire source in this absorbing film from the director of The Name of the Rose. Also has an unrecognisable Rae Dawn Chong, who I had quite the crush on as a kid.

The Rape Squad aka Act of Vengeance (1974)
Earnest feminist exploitationer in which a group of rape victims form The Rape Squad and cruise about in a scooby doo style Mystery Machine van, to mete out justice to various pimps, misogynists and other low lives, all the while hunting down their serial rapist, a really vile pos who not only makes his victims say "Thank you for choosing me, Mr Rapist", he also makes them sing Jingle Bells, when he's not strolling around in broad daylight in orange overalls and a hockey mask.
Has some homophobia and priceless dialogue too, such as "I've rung more bells than a cathethral and I'm about to ring yours!" and a sleazy male heckler of a woman putting up anti rape flyers who exclaims "Stop rape?! But that's my favourite sport!".
This one won't be getting the remake treatment any time soon.

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05-18-2024 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Henry: Portrat Of A Serial Killer was thoroughly grim and depressing. The group of young lads a few rows in front of us clearly went along expecting to see some blood flowing hilariously, but soon fell silent. A disturbing but good film.

On the subject of drug addiction, I saw Christiane F as a teenager and it was an overwhelmingly bleak experience.
Yeah Henry is a good one and has aged very well, proof positive that you can have a low budget and still make a very effective horror film. I was also a teen when I saw Christiane F, you should check out Last Exit to Brooklyn (1989) by the same director if you haven't seen yet, it's also pretty bleak but really quite good, with a decent cast too.
I've heard his Der Baader Meinhof Komplex (2008) is also great, but haven't seen it yet.
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05-18-2024 , 06:44 AM
I just googled Quest for Fire and after seeing the first image of Perlman that popped up I'm sold. Will be watching.
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05-18-2024 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
A Serbian Film is beyond ****ed up. There’s a certain beauty in Requiem, but I’d definitely never watch A Serbian Film ever again.
I gotta say I thought A Serbian Film was great and one of the few extreme horrors which lived up to its hype. Surprisingly good production values too.
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05-18-2024 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
We had this discussion a few years back about the most disturbing movies ever, and I am with the consensus (of yesteryears) that it is Martyr and A Serbian Film and perhaps Irreversible as well.

https://thecinemaholic.com/best-disturbing-movies/
A Serbian Film, Salo, Irreversible and Cannibal Holocaust were all legit disturbing for me. I thought Sweet Movie was crap and didn't find the likes of Hostel, Teeth or The Woman disturbing at all.
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05-18-2024 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
I just googled Quest for Fire and after seeing the first image of Perlman that popped up I'm sold. Will be watching.
It's on youtube and worth checking out, be interested in your thoughts on it whenever you get to see it,.
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05-18-2024 , 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
you should check out Last Exit to Brooklyn (1989) by the same director if you haven't seen yet, it's also bleak
This is also Hubert Selby Jr, my favorite novel of his.
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05-18-2024 , 07:27 AM
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This is also Hubert Selby Jr, my favorite novel of his.
I haven't read it but isn't it from the 60s? If the film is anything to go by, the novel must have been quite a shocker for its time.
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05-18-2024 , 07:51 AM
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I haven't read it but isn't it from the 60s? If the film is anything to go by, the novel must have been quite a shocker for its time.
Originally published in three pieces in the late 50s, early 60s. Yeah, there were some obscenity trials about it and the book was banned in Italy. I’d recommend anyone check it out just to sample Selby Jr’s prose, his writing style is raw and unique. He’s more refined in Requiem for a Dream, but still brutal as hell.
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05-18-2024 , 01:41 PM
The CGI apes in the modern day Planet of the Apes series looks way more real than that trash they had in the original.

Better story and acting too.

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05-18-2024 , 03:43 PM
I feel obligated to point out that, over in P&S, that is proof that "they" have genetically modified apes, and are creating an army of them to take over.
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05-18-2024 , 06:22 PM
I really don't understand why anyone would ever watch saló or defend it's artistic merit it's just nonsense and pure fantasy porn I don't buy the social commentary BS at all and I'm the last one to suggest censoring the arts.

I have no problem with someone being allowed to make that movie I just don't get why anyone would ever want to watch it and I really don't buy for a second that the writer/director isn't super ****ed up and sick in the head.

I do understand it's based on 120 days of sodom but guess what the Marquis was also just absolutely sick and twisted and got off on all that sick **** he wasn't making some deep commentary on french society he was a perverted ******* who got his rocks off sexually abusing everyone he could his entire life and 120 days of sodom wasn't some amazing artistic inspiration it was just all the sick **** he wished he could do he was literally writing his own porn.

and I'm the furthest person from some religious fanatic screaming about pornography I don't care at all that he wrote it but if you think it was some deep social satire or whatever you just haven't read at all about who he actually was and his life.

the pretentiousness in academia and art world can be hilarious and 100% the critics who gave de sade and his writings acclaim and serious analysis many years after his death were absolutely just as sick and twisted and absolutely got off on that **** and so wanted it to be taken seriously.

trying to read some serious critique of 120 of sodom and it's importance is actually really hilarious.

again I'm not some prude who's offended and wants to ban any of this stuff I have no problem with ppl being sick and twisted just don't try and pretend there is some deeper meaning to your ****ed up porn.

oh ya what I do have a problem with is all the horrific pedophile **** that's indefensible and I don't know how anyone can live with knowing a bunch of pedos are getting off on horrendously ****ed up depictions of sexual assault against kids **** all you and hope you burn in a grease fire. slowly.
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