Why do you think Blunt's character needs to act realistic?

cuz it's ridiculous to introduce her as this super badass then turn her into a helpless scaredy cat who's completely useless and needs brolin and del toro to babysit her the whole movie.

but as long as you agree her character is completely unrealistic from the time she meets brolin I'm satisfied.

A super inexperienced badass who just led her team into a trap and got some of them killed.

Once you factor this in, her character makes a lot more sense.

rbk, you're forgetting that she's absolutely stunning

I'm sure Dom will let you sit on his lap.

you don't get to become an FBI HRT team leader if you're inexperienced and they clearly said that was her position.
this is the FBI equivalent of special forces.

this is from the FBI own site and this is just to join the team and she's supposedly the team leader:

so she's the leader of the federal governments lead counterterrorism tactical team but when confronted with a tier 1 operator from another unit she becomes a whimpering crybaby who's totally out of her element and absolutely incapable of holding her own in even the most basic situations.


oh that is one thing I am most definitely NOT forgetting.
krasinkski is a very lucky man.

To set her character up, whatever transpires in the opening scene she has to be responsible. One way of doing that is giving her a position of responsibility/authority.

I mean, if you need to google the entry requirements for the FBI HRT team to ensure they are being 100% realistic in order that you may enjoy the film, I think you're missing the point of watching films.

In the opening scenes, they just need to set her up as competent but vulnerable. That's her whole character. The opening scene does this very well imo.

If you're going to nitpick about realism, how many female candidates make the grade for the FBI HRT? let alone reach team leader aged ~30.

Duck Soup. What can I say? Woody Allen likes it.

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no idea why you're making the assumption that I needed to google the requirements to know them I simply quoted it so other members of the thread who may not know that I happen to be extremely well studied in LEO and special operations don't have to just take my word for it.

probably better if you want to engage in a discussion with someone you don't know at all to not start out with a condescending attitude.

and your ending point is totally irrelevant I would never make that argument "oh there are no women assaulters in devgru this war movie is totally unrealistic".
if any movie wants to establish a certain person in a certain position you'd have to be really insufferable to bring in real world stats to say it's unrealistic.

it's not about how many women are actually leading HRT it's the fact that if you are operating within a reality where that's happening you just need to have her then act realistically for example it would be idiotic if she didn't know how to mirandize someone how to load a handgun or any other very simple action any rookie LEO learns at the academy.

just like in rounders we don't bitch about how many super hot women are running underground poker clubs and deciding how much credit to extend without having to check with any of her superiors we just accept that she's allowed and all we bitch about for being totally ridiculously unrealistic is when mikey doesn't bang her when she shows up at his apt offering casual sex.

but tyvm for explaining to me how movies provide exposition I'm very new to movies and like you say seem to be unfamiliar with how to enjoy watching them. I should probably stick to documentaries. all I ever do in this thread is talk about how bad every movie I watch is.

edit/ps: duck soup is fantastic I was obsessed with the marx brothers as a kid, but come on it's so unrealistic that someone so goofy would become the leader of a country how can you take that movie seriously???

I didn't have this take. I read it that her apprehension was because she was morally conflicted. She started out believing she was on the right side of things and derived her strength from that conviction. The change came when she wasn't entirely sure who the good guys were anymore, or that she was doing the right thing, which caused her hesitancy.

I mean she was all gung ho to take down the ppl responsible for that horrendous scene she just experienced and then just immediately upon meeting del toro she's now completely conflicted about who the bad guys are?

by the time the bridge confrontation is going down there hasn't been anything whatsoever to make her start debating who the bad guys are.

she knew they were going down to snatch a cartel leader she was at the briefing ya for some reason she has her panties in a bunch about del toro being contracted by the CIA (lol sure cuz that's so hard to reconcile for an experienced counterterrorism agent) but the mission up to that point is exactly what she was briefed about but what at the first sign of cartel resistance she's conflicted about who the bad guys are?

lol come on that's ****ing absurd.

I mean putting aside the fact it's pretty laughable to think an FBI agent dealing with the cartels is gonna have those thoughts so immediately she hadn't even experienced anything and on the bridge scene on the way back she's basically having a panic attack.

dunno just felt really far fetched and don't think they would ever have a male character act like that.

also it's one thing to be morally conflicted before and after an operation but for an experienced operator when you're actually deployed on a mission you're not sitting there debating the ethics of your mission to the point where you have a panic attack when you need to draw your weapon you do what you need to do to survive and keep your teammates alive.
if you start moralizing in the middle of a combat situation you're either gonna be dead or discharged from the service immediately after the mission.

but it's not really a hill I need to die on its just my opinion and like I said from the beginning I still love the movie and have watched it a bunch of times and will undoubtedly watch it a bunch more times.

and like the other poster mentioned it's really crazy how much better sheridan is at writing movies than tv shows but he's hilariously bad at writing female characters.

Lol RBK rant...I love it

But, we seem to all agree that Emily Blunt is awesome!

not only is she awesome in her movies but in every interview I've seen her in she's always just been super intelligent and charming.

RBK rants are the best rants, especially now that Zeno has mellowed out in his dotage.

I agree. Regarding Duck Soup, I can't be sure if it's comedy or satire or both. The article linked below talks about both. I see it more as an absurdist comedy rather than satire, but I do find the article makes some good points.

https://silverscreenclassicsblog.wor...itical-satire/

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boat,

I should have included that I think you are 100% correct in that is ultimately the arc they wanted for her character so you were absolutely right in that regard my beef is just how they went about that and had her develop those uncertainties immediately with no provocation whatsoever.

if they had her start out on the mission totally gung ho and responding to threat on the bridge like a well trained elite counterterrorism agent would and only start developing her doubts as she became more exposed to del toro and brolins methods that would have been absolutely believable and well developed.

but they skipped all that and just had her instantly in a huge moral quandary immediately after accepting the mission which she volunteered for btw.

anyway just wanted to clear that up cuz realized it sounded as tho I was dismissing your take as stupid or whatever when it absolutely was not it was just the execution that was stupid so I apologize if I came off like a dick to you.

and with that I'll bring my thoughts on sicario to an end and fwiw we actually just watched it the other day for the upteenth time so this stuff was very fresh in my mind.

cheers.

I still hate the Irish! (And the Yankees).

I’ve been busy working on repairing my garage which is rotting away on its foundation.

All good rbk. I highly respect your opinions here.

I watched Character yesterday, a 1997 Dutch-Belgian movie that won the foreign language Oscar. Very good, and props to Amazon for steering me to it, hadn't even come close to hearing about it. Pretty dark or let's say somewhat grim, fairly accessible if you don't try to sift thru bankruptcy law intricacies etc. and just take some details on faith. Bottom line, it's about a kid growing up with very strange parents and trying to make his way in the cruel world. A bildungsroman!

You couldn't be more wrong about Margin Call. Very accurate about the different personality types, levels of employee power, how WallSt guys talk about money [I probably heard at least 3 of those Bettany monologues in my time at 3 different banks incl Lehman] firing people to CYA, dumb risk-taking and executive interactions.

The acting was pretty great as well. Irons gives a master-class on how to dominate a room/scene.

Best Original screenplay nominee. 7.1 imdb/87% RT.


In fact, The Big Short is much moreso a collection of vignettes - the group therapy scene, Ryan Gosling pitches the short to the world's angriest hedge fund, Brad Pitt and the garage HF, Bale telling his investors they're wrong, Bale telling GS they're wrong, trip to Florida, trip to Vegas, Carrell yells out 'Zero' scene, strippers, dinner with the CDO bundler, etc.

Not to mention the celebrity vignettes which are, actually, perfect for the tiktoks/etc.

Searching for Bobby Fischer.

Love that movie! But not sure that chess can be classified as a sport? It is definitely a competition so its close.

Watched few old 50's movies this week. Amazon Prime has a bunch of them and I felt like watching old stuff.

First I watched Run Silent, Run Deep I hadn't seen this in at least 50 years. Very good classic starring Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster as the CO and XO of a submarine back in WWII Japanese theater. Great action and performances. I was surprised to see Don Rickles in this one as one of the crewmen and also a young Jack Warden.

Then I watched a couple of Bogarts. Beat the Devil and In a Lonely Place. Both were very good and classic Bogart with his wiseguy dialog. Both were very enjoyable to watch.

I also watched The Key which i had never seen before. About tugboats in WWII out of England that towed torpedoed ships back to port. Great action and mostly good performances. Starred William Holden, Trevor Howard and Sophia Loren. Holden and Howard are great actors but Sophia? Not so much. She sure is hot though The key in the title is the key to an apartment where Sophia lives. Every tugboat captain that gets the key pretty much dies and they pass the key on. It was good but wasn't thrilled with the ending.

Last and definitety least was The Burglar. This was low level 50's schlock. I picture this one as the third billing in a triple feature. Bad plot, bad acting, over dramatic line delivery, over dramatic facial expressions, over dramitic musical score. This could be one of those so bad it's good movies. With a group of friends while drinking this movie could be hilarious