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05-18-2024 , 06:45 PM
+1 to all the praise given here to the lovely understated film Perfect Days.
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05-19-2024 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
I really don't understand why anyone would ever watch saló or defend it's artistic merit it's just nonsense and pure fantasy porn I don't buy the social commentary BS at all and I'm the last one to suggest censoring the arts.

I have no problem with someone being allowed to make that movie I just don't get why anyone would ever want to watch it and I really don't buy for a second that the writer/director isn't super ****ed up and sick in the head.

I do understand it's based on 120 days of sodom but guess what the Marquis was also just absolutely sick and twisted and got off on all that sick **** he wasn't making some deep commentary on french society he was a perverted ******* who got his rocks off sexually abusing everyone he could his entire life and 120 days of sodom wasn't some amazing artistic inspiration it was just all the sick **** he wished he could do he was literally writing his own porn.

and I'm the furthest person from some religious fanatic screaming about pornography I don't care at all that he wrote it but if you think it was some deep social satire or whatever you just haven't read at all about who he actually was and his life.

the pretentiousness in academia and art world can be hilarious and 100% the critics who gave de sade and his writings acclaim and serious analysis many years after his death were absolutely just as sick and twisted and absolutely got off on that **** and so wanted it to be taken seriously.

trying to read some serious critique of 120 of sodom and it's importance is actually really hilarious.

again I'm not some prude who's offended and wants to ban any of this stuff I have no problem with ppl being sick and twisted just don't try and pretend there is some deeper meaning to your ****ed up porn.

oh ya what I do have a problem with is all the horrific pedophile **** that's indefensible and I don't know how anyone can live with knowing a bunch of pedos are getting off on horrendously ****ed up depictions of sexual assault against kids **** all you and hope you burn in a grease fire. slowly.
Pretty sure I agree with all of this and it’s the only movie I genuinely regret watching. I knew it was “on the list” but I had no idea it would go as far it did. I’m not a smart dude so I don’t know **** about the source material. I wouldn’t have bothered if I knew anything about it at all. At least I’d like to think so….. lol
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05-19-2024 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
I really don't understand why anyone would ever watch saló or defend it's artistic merit it's just nonsense and pure fantasy porn I don't buy the social commentary BS at all and I'm the last one to suggest censoring the arts.

I have no problem with someone being allowed to make that movie I just don't get why anyone would ever want to watch it and I really don't buy for a second that the writer/director isn't super ****ed up and sick in the head.

I do understand it's based on 120 days of sodom but guess what the Marquis was also just absolutely sick and twisted and got off on all that sick **** he wasn't making some deep commentary on french society he was a perverted ******* who got his rocks off sexually abusing everyone he could his entire life and 120 days of sodom wasn't some amazing artistic inspiration it was just all the sick **** he wished he could do he was literally writing his own porn.

and I'm the furthest person from some religious fanatic screaming about pornography I don't care at all that he wrote it but if you think it was some deep social satire or whatever you just haven't read at all about who he actually was and his life.

the pretentiousness in academia and art world can be hilarious and 100% the critics who gave de sade and his writings acclaim and serious analysis many years after his death were absolutely just as sick and twisted and absolutely got off on that **** and so wanted it to be taken seriously.

trying to read some serious critique of 120 of sodom and it's importance is actually really hilarious.

again I'm not some prude who's offended and wants to ban any of this stuff I have no problem with ppl being sick and twisted just don't try and pretend there is some deeper meaning to your ****ed up porn.

oh ya what I do have a problem with is all the horrific pedophile **** that's indefensible and I don't know how anyone can live with knowing a bunch of pedos are getting off on horrendously ****ed up depictions of sexual assault against kids **** all you and hope you burn in a grease fire. slowly.
I'm a horror and exploitation fan so watch the likes of Saló purely within that context. If it raises my eyebrows or better yet drops my jaw, it's done its job. I found Saló a very well made film with apart from the depravity, a decent enough plot. I didn't think much of it as an allegory for fascism, consumerism or whatever, but as an exploitation flick, it was spot on that totally delivered in what it set out to do.
I'm not gonna necessarily disagree w th you re pretentiousness in the art/academia world but I do think that clearly you are offended if you consider people who watch it or filmmakers sick and twisted, simply because you dislike it.It comes across as moral posturing on your part and such a mindset led to the Video Nasty era of censorship and moral panic.
And I doubt if all the horrific paedophiles have actually heard of Saló, as they're too busy committing crimes by watching real kids being actually horrifically abused on child porn websites, as opposed to actors playing make believe in Saló.
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05-19-2024 , 07:43 AM
I can't say I liked it, but I think Salo is an important film. Actually, I hated it. Still think it's important.
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05-19-2024 , 08:45 AM
I saw it a long time ago and can't remember it too well. I was pretty unimpressed though not outraged and found it quite dull.
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05-19-2024 , 02:57 PM
Been going through a long list of new stuff and rewatches. Did Little Miss Sunshine last night, and forgot how enjoyable it was. The casting was fantastic yet having said that, it was even better than the sum of all its parts. Great movie.
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05-19-2024 , 02:59 PM
Never saw it...no interest in seeing it
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05-19-2024 , 04:12 PM
That's harsh, man. She's just a kid.
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05-19-2024 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by g-bebe
That's harsh, man. She's just a kid.
hey, if she had quit eating so much ice cream, she coulda won
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05-19-2024 , 05:57 PM
Little Miss Sunshine is great
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05-19-2024 , 06:08 PM
I didnt find Salo (1975) "disturbing" since it seemed so unreal. It had little or no rationale. It was hard to imagine why something like that could be happening.

Requiem for a Dream (2000) ,I think, is a great film. If you've ever been around someone with an addiction disorder who ruined their life you know the film is realistic and tragic. Back before 2000, our society didn't have much understanding of how to deal with substance abuse , not that we are great at it now.

If people are interested, there are other very "disturbing" films around that people don't mention much. I unearthed some out of curiousity over the years. For example,
Liberté (2019)
The Innocents (2021)

Those kinds of film make me appericate a silly, light, nonsensical comedic film like Unfrosted (2024).
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05-19-2024 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by g-bebe
Been going through a long list of new stuff and rewatches. Did Little Miss Sunshine last night, and forgot how enjoyable it was. The casting was fantastic yet having said that, it was even better than the sum of all its parts. Great movie.

That’s funny I just rewatched it because it came on TV and had the same reaction. It has a lot of heart without feeling forced. Pretty stacked cast in retrospect but less well-known at the time it came out.
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05-19-2024 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
hey, if she had quit eating so much ice cream, she coulda won
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Yesterday , 09:38 AM
Prolly one of Alan Arkin's better roles. I still remember him making it rain.
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Yesterday , 10:01 AM
“**** a lotta women, kid. A lot of women.”
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Yesterday , 12:30 PM
Followed it up last night with a rewatch of No Country For Old Men for the upteenth time. What a banger of a movie.
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Yesterday , 01:46 PM
last night I ate a gummy and watched Flash Gordon for the umpteenth time.

Love that movie so much.
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Yesterday , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerlogist
I didnt find Salo (1975) "disturbing" since it seemed so unreal. It had little or no rationale. It was hard to imagine why something like that could be happening.

Requiem for a Dream (2000) ,I think, is a great film. If you've ever been around someone with an addiction disorder who ruined their life you know the film is realistic and tragic. Back before 2000, our society didn't have much understanding of how to deal with substance abuse , not that we are great at it now.

If people are interested, there are other very "disturbing" films around that people don't mention much. I unearthed some out of curiousity over the years. For example,
Liberté (2019)
The Innocents (2021)

Those kinds of film make me appericate a silly, light, nonsensical comedic film like Unfrosted (2024).
I just watched The Innocents and it just didn't work for me although I can understand others digging it. Had a nice ominous atmosphere with amazing performances from some of the child actors and one or two rather disturbing individual scenes.
That said, while I don't necessarily mind slow burns, this was fricken glacially paced and came across as simply dragged out. I thought it's conclusion was really poor-
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the build up suggested it would end with a bang instead of a whimper and the ambiguity as to how they had their powers
didn't work for me. Overall a nay from me although again I can understand others liking it.
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Yesterday , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by g-bebe
Followed it up last night with a rewatch of No Country For Old Men for the upteenth time. What a banger of a movie.
To me it’s THE perfect movie
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Yesterday , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
I just watched The Innocents and it just didn't work for me although I can understand others digging it. Had a nice ominous atmosphere with amazing performances from some of the child actors and one or two rather disturbing individual scenes.
That said, while I don't necessarily mind slow burns, this was fricken glacially paced and came across as simply dragged out. I thought it's conclusion was really poor-
Spoiler:
the build up suggested it would end with a bang instead of a whimper and the ambiguity as to how they had their powers
didn't work for me. Overall a nay from me although again I can understand others liking it.
Understood. Maybe you've developed a high tolerance to horror and you need high doses to get off. The Coffee Table film probably won't bother you at all. Lol keep trying.




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Yesterday , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
last night I ate a gummy and watched Flash Gordon for the umpteenth time.

Love that movie so much.
Great musical score, great costumes, basic good guy, bad guy , damsels in distress storyline ....cant go wrong..I like it too

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Today , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
I can't say I liked it, but I think Salo is an important film. Actually, I hated it. Still think it's important.
genuinely curious what do you think makes it important?

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I'm a horror and exploitation fan so watch the likes of Saló purely within that context. If it raises my eyebrows or better yet drops my jaw, it's done its job. I found Saló a very well made film with apart from the depravity, a decent enough plot. I didn't think much of it as an allegory for fascism, consumerism or whatever, but as an exploitation flick, it was spot on that totally delivered in what it set out to do.
I'm not gonna necessarily disagree w th you re pretentiousness in the art/academia world but I do think that clearly you are offended if you consider people who watch it or filmmakers sick and twisted, simply because you dislike it.It comes across as moral posturing on your part and such a mindset led to the Video Nasty era of censorship and moral panic.
And I doubt if all the horrific paedophiles have actually heard of Saló, as they're too busy committing crimes by watching real kids being actually horrifically abused on child porn websites, as opposed to actors playing make believe in Saló.
if you think I'm offended you don't know me very well it's pretty hard to actually offend me I just think it's laughable when ppl try to make these movies to be anything other than fantasy porn.
if ppl just described the films like you did and said all they wanted them for was to be shocked/grossed out etc then I'd say sounds good enjoy but I have read so much absolute nonsense from academics and movie critics trying to make them into super important films almost to the point where oh my god it pained the filmmakers so much to have to make such a film but it was just sooooooooooooooo important it had to be done so they made the ultimate sacrifice blah blah blah just ludicrous.

thing is they never come close to explaining why they're so important and I really would love to know.

I have never once suggested it should be illegal to make them or they should be banned.
and no offense but not gonna lie if you watch salo and actually enjoy it and would gladly watch it again I'm gonna be very shocked if there isn't something wrong with your brain.
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