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02-06-2017 , 10:59 AM
That was funny. Sisko is pretty good.
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02-10-2017 , 01:36 PM
ST TNG S4E11: Data's Day

Solid episode that is about a single (eventful) day in the life of Data. This episode is greatly enhanced by the focus on Brent Spiner, who has enough charisma and talent to easily carry such an episode, and the events, both trivial and major, are something we see through Data's perspective.

We also get a bit of Data dancing with Beverly Crusher, and see Spot the cat for the first time.

And a little Romulan deep cover intrigue - sometimes you get the bear, but sometimes the bear gets you.

7/10
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02-11-2017 , 09:01 AM
ST TNG S4E12: The Wounded

We'll be watching. And we'll be ready.

Apart from some unnecessary shenanigans about O'Brien and his new wife trying each other's cultural foods, this is a solid episode about them shifty Cardassians and another starfleet captain who may be out for revenge against previous Cardassian atrocities against humans, or may be uncovering some suspect Cardassian behaviour.

I like the line about O'Brien not hating the Cardassians, but hating what they forced him to become.

A fairly sophisticated look at the convoluted behaviours in a difficult political and military situation. Picard is doing everything to prevent war, but he's not ignoring some rather suspect behaviour going on by the Cardassians, and makes it clear to them he knows they aren't playing straight.

7/10
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02-12-2017 , 10:56 PM
Two very strong episodes that flesh out O'Brien and also introduce both Keiko and the Cardassians, who will of course be major components of DS9. Data's Day in particular is a lot of fun, as it shifts back and forth between being a serious political intrigue/mystery and a more mundane slice-of-life episode. Gates McFadden shows off her dance moves, Data lands a hot date, Picard is way too lax on security. The night watch crew are explicitly mentioned for the first time ever, which gives me an excuse to post this again:



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Originally Posted by diebitter
I like the line about O'Brien not hating the Cardassians, but hating what they forced him to become.
That whole bit was done with a lot more subtly than the series is typically known for. Very strong moment.

Last edited by Cranberry Tea; 02-12-2017 at 11:02 PM.
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02-13-2017 , 03:01 AM
I think i've underrated these two tbh, and I'm bumping them both to 8/10
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02-13-2017 , 03:06 AM
ST TNG S4E13: Devil's Due

A relatively lightweight and fun one using a premise often used in the original series (and indeed Star Trek 5) of an alien pretending godhood to control or put one over on mortals. Picard calls it early, claiming this time it's a con artist rather than the original deity/alien, and it's interesting the tech used is almost all replicable by the tech of the Enterprise - the issue is they cannot figure out how she's doing it.

I liked a court with Data as the judge, could have done with more of that. Also the opening with Spiner playing Scrooge was solid. Interesting that Stewart did in fact go on to play Scrooge in a movie.

It's interesting these alien females are all interested in Picard, but he rejects them over and over, using reason to overcome them as adversaries. Kirk would totally seduce them to get his way.


I think Kirk has more fun.

6/10
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02-13-2017 , 04:17 AM
I agree on the bump in ratings - Data's day and The Wounded are pretty strong entries.

Devil's Due less so - although it is somewhat entertaining.
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02-14-2017 , 11:27 AM
This one was originally written as a TOS episode but never produced. The premise doesn't make much sense to me: it's not clear why the Enterprise is outfoxed for so long by primitive technology; the courtroom aspect seems pointless since Picard just wins by hijacking her technology. tbh it would have been more interesting if Ardra really was some kind of Q-like being.

The Ardra character taking Picard down a few pegs is loads of fun, though. Too bad they never brought her back for another episode.
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02-14-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Cranberry Tea
This one was originally written as a TOS episode but never produced. The premise doesn't make much sense to me: it's not clear why the Enterprise is outfoxed for so long by primitive technology; the courtroom aspect seems pointless since Picard just wins by hijacking her technology. tbh it would have been more interesting if Ardra really was some kind of Q-like being.

The Ardra character taking Picard down a few pegs is loads of fun, though. Too bad they never brought her back for another episode.
A TOS episode? Kirk would have just banged her into submission, surely...
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02-14-2017 , 08:39 PM
In the original version, Ardra was going to be male...
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02-15-2017 , 03:45 AM
Wouldn't that just be a rehash of Squire of Gothos?
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02-16-2017 , 01:11 AM
Man, TOS rehashed Squire of Gothos like 5-6 times.
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02-24-2017 , 07:13 AM
My favorite Star Trek episode of all time is Think Tank from Star Trek Voyager. Jason Alexander (from Seinfeld) is so deliciously evil. 5/5
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03-19-2017 , 06:04 AM
ST TNG S4E14: Clues

Starts well, with Guinan joining Picard in the Dixon Hill world as 'Gloria from Cleveland', and then tracks into a mystery story involving missing days. The execution was average, and the story was okay, but this one felt very workmanlike and unexceptional, and the best moment was Data's expression in the very last shot - only Data will ever be aware of what happened here.

It feels like someone watched the Red Dwarf episode 'Thanks for the Memory' and did a Star Trek rewrite.

4/10
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03-19-2017 , 06:40 AM
Wow I really can't agree about Clues. Okay, it has flaws as with any episode with that type of format, but the Data and Picard sell their scenes really well and I enjoyed the pacing of the reveal.

I'd give it 8/10.
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03-19-2017 , 07:50 AM
Eh, I just didn't feel this one. However, I'm inclined to agree the story was clever and well put together, and the pacing overall, in fact, was good. I just felt the dialogue was functional and the alien stuff just didn't work for me. The script felt very flat to me.

The possessed Troi made me laugh.


Ima gonna push it up to a 6/10
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03-19-2017 , 11:49 AM
Geordi was obsessed with the beards not growing. He mentions it several times.
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03-21-2017 , 04:46 PM
Should have posted my question about watching Enterprise here. I've read some very negative comments about season 3 from a number of sources, is that accurate?
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03-21-2017 , 04:54 PM
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Should have posted my question about watching Enterprise here. I've read some very negative comments about season 3 from a number of sources, is that accurate?
I personally have no problem with season 3, although I do suspect I am in the minority here. I would say that it is, however, the weakest of the 4 seasons, although it's not something I can really put my finger on. Maybe because it's because its the season long Xindi arc is the only thing I can really put it on.
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03-23-2017 , 09:18 AM
Yeah, I rather liked this episode, with its M Night Shyamalan twist ending. Very understated in some parts, Spiner and Stewart both very subtle in the final scene.

Also, I think this is the first time we've seen Dixon Hill in quite some time. Added nothing to the plot, but I do enjoy seeing Stewart deliberately ham up the detective role --you can tell he had fun with that.
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04-11-2017 , 10:30 PM
I know in the end it's all subjective and the whole thread is pretty much about your own opinion but Clues was an awesome ep imo. 8/10 at least.
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04-17-2017 , 03:06 AM
Full marks for the conclusion to Star Trek: Enterprise. Bringing back Riker, and adding to an already emotional episode in STNG, the Pegasus episode (also one of my favs in STNG), was brilliant. Watching the episode again, and rewatching the Pegasus episode.
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04-17-2017 , 11:39 AM
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Full marks for the conclusion to Star Trek: Enterprise. Bringing back Riker, and adding to an already emotional episode in STNG, the Pegasus episode (also one of my favs in STNG), was brilliant. Watching the episode again, and rewatching the Pegasus episode.
Nice to see some love for These Are the Voyages...

That said, though, the critics do have a point, I feel. Felt more like a TNG episode than a Enterprise episode, made worse by the fact that is it's final ever episode.
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04-17-2017 , 12:33 PM
Also did not want to see Fat Riker and Old Troi crammed into their old uniforms. Just sad man.

The previous episode of Enterprise with zero changes would have been a much better finale
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04-17-2017 , 12:49 PM
Was that the mirror episode?
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