The movies are a good re-watch. Well, except for I and V.

They flip flopped IV and V, presumably because IV plays better in prime time. V just started, then IV then VI.

Kirk Spock and McCoy toasting marshmallows and singing row your boat around the campfire is likely the worst moment of the entire franchise. That is truly a cringe worthy scene.

Yeah but life is but a dream.

Don't have access to S1-3 on UK netflicks or i'd join the party. The one thing i remember is how uncomfortable a few of the actors appeared with their roles, perhaps most notably Stewart, but that's not uncommon in the first season of a show that goes on to better things (re-watching Buffy and that has a similar S1 feel to it).

S2 definitely has some episodes that stand up against the best of the franchise, however skipping "shades of grey" is obviously encouraged.

The saucer separation was this cool new feature that they had to show off, which of course they did too much of early on and it became meh... reminds me of when the first CSI came out, they constantly showed the "bullet entering body puncturing organs/shattering bone" effect, then you hardly saw it again.

Anyway, yeah they did it a few times in S1, then only twice again ever (BOBW and Generations).

Wesley even referenced this point in BOBW - "The saucer section's a sitting duck!"

I enjoyed 5. It's basically a 2 hr long version of the original series. They boldly go where no one has gone before. That's what Star Trek is about. It's too bad that it's hard to pull that off that kind of plot in movie form and the 2 times they did it (1 and 5) ended up being not that great, and so most Star Trek movies default to being Wrath of Khan-esque "kill the baddie" plots.

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I think they had the seed of a good idea for 5, but it was just terribly executed. Did we ever hear Spock had a brother before 5? and considering the standard of the effects generally in the movies, they are terrible in 5.

It's a shame, because 6 was a little overlooked because 5 was so bad, and 6 is probably the second strongest in the series.

STAR TREK TNG S1E03 The Naked Now



Denise Crosby's delightful midriff is EXACTLY how I remember it, so seared into my memory it is.

Okay, now I've got past that, there's some moments in this that make you cringe. You know, actually physically contort in shame and uncomfortableness for the actors. Wesley Crusher being drunk, and a Chinese crewman grinning like an idiot while he plays with memory cards like they're pieces of lego. That bad enough for you? Okay, how about Beverley Crusher and Picard flirting like drunk parents at an 18th birthday? Or right in the middle of Tasha Yar's seduction of Data, happening to mention she managed to avoid "rape-gangs" between the ages of 5 and 15... Enough to make you suck air through your teeth, and pull your lips back over your gums?

Can someone put in a junior screenwriters book the phrase "Remember to never have the words 'rape gang' in what's intended to be a sexy scene."


Yeah, I appreciated the intention to call back to the original series, but we really needed maybe 10 episodes to get to know the crew before seeing them act out of character, so the timing was deeply flawed.

And even so, it was a pretty stinky episode.

I'll be honest, I never bought into the Wesley hate before, but I can kind of feel myself slipping to the dark side on that now...

man, I love a good belly

Denise Crosby's midriffalicious outfit was designed by none other than William Ware Theiss, who was the costume designer for TOS --I've mentioned him a few times ITT. Theiss will stay on board for season one of TNG to make sure the next generation is just as sexy as the original, and he'll even throw us an unexpected curveball...

This episode has its fun silly moments (Data and Yar's "fully functional" bit is classic), but it also introduces the concept of wunderkind Wesley Crusher saving the day, which is unforgivable. On a side note, episodes 1-3 kind of set up the premise of Picard and Dr. Crusher hooking up, but I can't really remember if that ever becomes a thing or if it's a Chapel/Spock sort of unrequited crush. I guess we'll see.

Yes! Let the hate flow through you!

When TNG originally started airing, I didn't know it was going to be a new set of characters, so I was jarred when an entirely new crew was introduced, but hey, I loved TOS, so I'll give this new fangled Trek a shot. I distinctly remember being enraged after this episode aired. They were only on the third episode and were already ripping off TOS!

I quit watching it for a few weeks after that, convinced in would never last and would suck and/or just rip off Kirk and Spock, but I got sucked back in fairly quickly.

Probably a good play, you missed out on some of the terribad season one episodes.

What they need to do in any future Trek is retcon the stupid idea that the TOS Klingons had a different appearance because of some (temporary?) genetic mutation.

And the irony being, they made essentially the same balls up with the Romulan ridges.

STAR TREK TNG S1E04 Code on Honor

Pretty poor episode, that seems okayish to start with, except for some cringy talk about sexual attraction that seems deliberately clinical so they appear soooo 23rd century, but actually gets worse and worse as the episode proceeds. The main woman in the fight with Tasha is a dreadful actress, and the fight is horribly choreographed by any standards.

And Wesley creeping on to the bridge by stealth utility is dopey too.

I really though the claims of racism are for people looking for racism though, it doesn't seem deliberately racist to me.

What annoys me more about it is this is another lame reworking of a Star Trek TOS stone-cold classic, Amok Time.

Those Ligonians sure do love gold lame though.

I just caught this one yesterday for the first time. This was what the show went out on? JFC

Yeah, bad innit

haha I just watched Turnabout Intruder last night! It was hilarious. We were thoroughly entertained. Never once did I catch McCoy or the others ask Kirk any questions to test his memory, even though they were struggling to find a way to prove he was not the captain. The whole episode was a little farfetched if you ask me! How did Spock reverse the transference without the machine? I'm still pondering this. And that pink and black pant suit that Dr. Janice Lester had on, probably the ugliest costume I've ever seen.

But yeah it was entertaining to watch William Shatner pretend to be a bitchy woman. Too funny.

One or two posters ITT have claimed that this is the worst Trek episode ever. Jonathan Frakes would agree with that; he once said I certainly don't think it was intentionally racist, but there's certainly some cringeworthy bits. Even aside from that, it's just awkward all-around. Maybe it's saved a little bit by the hilariously bad fight scene.

I love Shatner trying to walk like a woman. Star Trek at it's campy best imo.

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I know it was one of the worst episodes ever but you didn't have to quit the show over it.

yeah, sorry, haven't quit, been on a Twin Peaks splurge. May post on next episode tomorrow.

Haha no worries was just teasing.