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02-13-2009 , 12:46 AM
going snowboarding for the first time ever this weekend. i figured it would be pretty easy to at least just glide down a gentle hill while standing up on a board, but i guess i am way off!
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02-13-2009 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mchen911
Hey guys,

I went sbing for the first time last week.

I've got some noob questions:

1. Does it really matter if I learn to ride goofy foot even though I should be leading with my left foot (I was riding goofy foot whole day)? Or should I just start from scratch?

Just do whatever is most comfortable. You'll need to learn how to ride switch at some point anyway so it can't hurt to get used to it early on.

2. I plan on purchasing boots, a board and bindings some time, but not sure what the best approach to do so is (buy online, shop with friends).

Check out some reviews online and have a good idea of your price range/desired characteristics when you get ready to buy. Buying online is way cheaper than in a B&M store.

3. Is there like a forum for snowboarding you guys check out? Like a 2+2 type site but for snowboarders, lol.

I dunno if they have much of a forum, but Transworld Snowboarding has some good video tutorials and gear reviews.

4. My feet were burning/sore as hell for the first hour or so. Is this normal?

wat

5. What board size should I get? I'm 5'6, 157 lbs. The resort gave me a 150 when I went.

The short answer is that it depends. Do you want an all-mountain board? If so, 150 is probably fine...most boards have weight ratings that you can look at.

6. I was practicing heel-side stopping by going down perpendicular on a bunny hill. Then I start going to my right. What am I doing wrong? Putting too much pressure on left side? What should I be doing/thinking when trying to turn back to the left? My friend said to turn shoulders/torso first, and your legs naturally follow. Is this right?

You're putting too much weight on your right foot if I'm visualizing this correctly. Snowboarding is all about shifting your weight from foot to foot. While you're going down on your heelside edge, shift your weight onto the foot you want aiming down the hill, roll off your edge a little, and let the board pivot...voila, you just turned.
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Originally Posted by daman123
hey guise, few questions here.

i've been snowboarding for about 8 or 9 years now and i'm fairly experienced. i had been living in vermont for a lot of those years, but i'm now in the new york area and dont plan on doing much riding in the next few years.

anyway im taking a trip to park city in april for a few days of boarding and i was planning on having my parents ship my snowboard out there so i wanted to make sure that it was good to go and i had them take it in for a tune up. according to the guy at the shop, my board, which is maybe 7 years old is beyond repair; untuneable. my mother didn't quite know what the problem was, but it had something to do with it splitting.

she mentioned that i was going to utah which is why i was having it tuned. the guy recommended that because it is so expensive to, a)ship a snowboard or b) bring a snowboard on an airplane, that i rent a demo for a few days when im out there and just bring my boots. he said that the technology in snowboards and bindings now is so much more advanced than it was say 7 or 8 years ago when my board was made, that ill probably be getting a much better product than i would have been riding.

anyway, just wanted to see what others think of this. i'm so out of the gear loop. i want something serviceable for a few days of great riding. i don't want the stock crap that they give to the noobs with the step in bindings who are on their first day ever. i have never been out west before and i dont need to buy a board because i wont be doing much riding in the next few years as far as i can see. any tips on how to get a good demo board? what am i looking to spend for 3 or 4 days? thanks.
Not sure how much demos cost...just make some phone calls prior to your trip and talk to the folks at some local shops. I think they usually have the cheap setups and then some nicer ones available.
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02-13-2009 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by daryn
going snowboarding for the first time ever this weekend. i figured it would be pretty easy to at least just glide down a gentle hill while standing up on a board, but i guess i am way off!
That's what everyone thinks their first time, lol.
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02-13-2009 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by daryn
going snowboarding for the first time ever this weekend. i figured it would be pretty easy to at least just glide down a gentle hill while standing up on a board, but i guess i am way off!
that actually is really easy. stopping without hurting yourself may not be.
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02-13-2009 , 05:47 PM
Thanks Ikaika. wrt the burning feet, I think my boots were slightly too big/loose. I remember my heel was able to pop out a bit while toe-side stopping.

Now when you say shifting weight, do you mean actually physically shifting my body towards a certain direction so that more weight is on the foot (like leaning to one side)? Or are you suppose to just purely use leg strength (from your quads) and pretend you want to squish a bug even harder?
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02-13-2009 , 06:18 PM
I mean shifting your body, not just pushing down with your leg. Once you're traversing(moving sideways across the slope) and you want to turn, you roll off of your edge and put your weight over the foot you want aimed down the hill. Ez.
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02-14-2009 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ikaika
I mean shifting your body, not just pushing down with your leg. Once you're traversing(moving sideways across the slope) and you want to turn, you roll off of your edge and put your weight over the foot you want aimed down the hill. Ez.
Ah I see... sorry, but another thing that needs clarification; what do you mean by "roll off of your edge"?

Does this video explain it properly?

http://www.ehow.com/video_2360834_sn...tail-roll.html
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02-14-2009 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mchen911
Ah I see... sorry, but another thing that needs clarification; what do you mean by "roll off of your edge"?

Does this video explain it properly?

http://www.ehow.com/video_2360834_sn...tail-roll.html
Lol no that totally isn't what I meant. More like this:

http://www.ehow.com/video_2358917_we...wboarding.html
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02-14-2009 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ikaika
Lol no that totally isn't what I meant. More like this:

http://www.ehow.com/video_2358917_we...wboarding.html
thats pretty much it rite here man, i guess if nothing else a tip I got my first time was to point my leading shoulder the direction I wanted to turn.

just bring advil and booze, you'll be fine
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02-14-2009 , 08:01 PM
Me and my buddies made a couple of snowboard videos. This is the last one that we made a couple of years ago. I figured that you guys would appreciate as it is on subject.

Enjoy

JibNinjas Snowboard Video
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02-15-2009 , 02:53 AM
Ive been skiing at steamboat springs for the past 9 years of my life. I absolutely love it out there.
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02-17-2009 , 03:34 PM
I was a pretty serious hockey player in high school/university which usually meant December tournaments screwed with the only time I could go boarding. Now that I have a ton of free time I decided to take up boarding again. I was never amazing but was pretty solid and was pretty happy to find out that snowboarding is just like riding a bike, although I think I had an easier time transitioning back to boarding after 5-6 years then I did to riding a bike over the same period of time.

I have been out about 6 times this year, with all brand new gear that is way better/more comfortable then I remember my old stuff being, but so far I've only done East Coast boarding. In Ontario I went to Blue Mountain which wasn't great but better then I expected, and in Quebec I went once to Tremblant which was pretty great and some smaller, decent hills. Since all the West Coast boarders/skiers hate on everything East Coast I decided I need to see what all the Fuss is about and I am heading out to Banff today for 5 days. I'm pretty excited and hopefully it goes well and I can post some cool pictures/stories.
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02-17-2009 , 04:27 PM
You're gonna love the snow out west, it's totally different...light and fluffy instead of wet/icy.
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02-17-2009 , 06:56 PM
Just landed my first backflip snowboarding at Keystone (CO) the other day. It was on a 20-30 foot table. Preparing to do it was easily the scariest experiences of my life but it was also one of the biggest rushes. I've done tons of backflips wakeboarding before but the fear factor does not even compare to trying them on a snowboard.
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02-17-2009 , 07:21 PM
Heading to Steamboat and Aspen for a 10-day'ish trip with some friends in a couple weeks. Everyone who has been there, any recommendations or tips? Can be ski-related (good mogul runs, whatever) or mountain-related (food, drinks, etc.)?

Also, finally got a new ski shell, it's this super-light Arcteryx, which is sweet, b/c I hate skiing in big bulky shells, so maybe I will actually wear this one from time to time...no real reason to post that, just giddy to go test it out...
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02-17-2009 , 10:16 PM
Wow, I've only done like half backflips by accident and those always end poorly. Grats!
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02-18-2009 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrabon98
Heading to Steamboat and Aspen for a 10-day'ish trip with some friends in a couple weeks. Everyone who has been there, any recommendations or tips? Can be ski-related (good mogul runs, whatever) or mountain-related (food, drinks, etc.)?

Also, finally got a new ski shell, it's this super-light Arcteryx, which is sweet, b/c I hate skiing in big bulky shells, so maybe I will actually wear this one from time to time...no real reason to post that, just giddy to go test it out...

Sounds sweet, I'm jealous!! If you're a good skier, I would definitely recommend checking out Aspen Highlands mountain. I spent a week in Aspen for new years and one of my regrets was only spending one day on this bad boy. Try the Highlands Bowl if you're into some extreme backcountry, but the climb is a ****ing BITCH so you better be either in real good shape or dedicated like I was. As far as eats go, everything is so good in Aspen, you can't go wrong. If you're a sushi buff, definitely try Matsuhisa for the best fish on the continent. There's two or three other sushi joints around there but don't bother with any of those.

btw, what is a "ski shell" exactly?
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02-19-2009 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by opteek
btw, what is a "ski shell" exactly?
http://www.arcteryx.com/product.aspx?Stinger-Jacket

gortex jacket w/o insulation.
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02-20-2009 , 07:11 PM
Mammoth is having a good year.

http://picasaweb.google.com/dylanellison35mm/Mammoth#
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02-20-2009 , 08:01 PM
Terrabon98, for steamboat, check out morningside
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02-20-2009 , 08:47 PM
so yeah, i fell a lot obv. but it wasn't so bad. i feel like i know exactly what i need to be doing now, i just don't always do it every time! can't wait to go back.
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02-24-2009 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by higher_energy
Yeah they're all legit and at least SAC is run by backcountry.com and you can access all the deals in one page at http://gearattack.com which also will link you to two bicycle-related sites: www.chainlove.com and www.bonktown.com
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02-24-2009 , 09:36 PM
WM and Dogfunk are both great...Dogfunk has outstanding customer service and they're fast as hell.
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03-03-2009 , 09:39 AM
Alright, just got back from Killington, VT. You'll have to forgive the TL;DR trip report, but I'm from Michigan damn it, we don't have skiing like this.

Just the girlfriend and I going, 5 night stay, 4 days of skiing.

So driving to Killington from Michigan thru Canada. Left about 7am, took about 12 hours, with a quick stop at Niagara falls and for lunch.
took a wrong turn around Saratoga Springs, cost about 15 minutes, oh well. Then we got to VT. absolutly dumping snow. going about 25mph on the highway seciton of route 4. white out conditions in some spots. It was so bad there was a full size plow/snow truck spun out in the ditch. Not a pickup truck, I mean a huge fullsize plow.
So we finally get there around 7:30. 12,5 hour total drive time, should have been 11 hours, but with Niagara stop and weather, not too bad. Grab dinner at an Peppinos (good pasta), and call it a night.

Niagara in Winter



Monday. Out of bed, 7am, at mountain by 8:30, on lift at 9am. It is still dumping snow, you can't see anything. Powder is ridiculous (for out east) turns out Killington had been hit with 18"-20" in the last 24 hours. However Monday we have nothing but problems. I have brand new ski boots. Wearing them around, they felt fine. Skiing on them, not working. Boots were too tight in the feet. Felt like I was skiing using only my thighs. Fortunately, I had brought my old boots. I lost about an hour and a half swapping boots, but it could have been much worse. We were back on the slopes for afternoon skiing. I was much, much better with my old boots, however the girlfriend was having issues. Skiing thru pretty deep powder was taking its toll on her. For anyone familiar with Killington, Great Eastern had a couple inches of powder, which I thought was amazing considering how much it is skied. At one point we were at the K-1 peak, skiing off on a blue when the snow and wind hit the point of ridiculous. Girlfriend was nearly in tears because she couldn't see anything and was practically too scared to ski. to give an example of how bad the visibility was, from about half way down snowshed slope, you could not see the lodge. At this point, I decide to call it a day, I don't want to ruin the trip with a horrid first day. We get back to the hotel, grab a drink, hit the outdoor heated pool and relax. The gf is clearly concerned. Last year we went to Blue Mountain in canada and she did not have a great time with the skiing. I had picked Killington this year, because I knew the mountain had a large variety of terrain, and you could ski greens and blues down from the peaks. However after the first day, it looked like the mountain was much tougher than I had said. Grabbed dinner that wasn't very good to cap off the night. Not looking good after the first ski day.

First view of Killington (um, not really, picture taken Tuesday, couldn't see anything thru snow Monday.)



Cascade from the gondola (black/double black off of K-1 Peak)



Tuesday. Up at 7:30am. Lot of snow on the ground, but not currently snowing. Absolutely beautiful day. Sun is out, about 10 degrees. After a pretty rough day Monday, both of our spirits our up slightly because of the weather. We step out of our hotel and for the first time she can actually ski killington and is amazed. But we still haven't put the skis on yet... We get there and the groomers have been hard at work. I know everyone here is all about the powder, but after Monday, I'm relieved to see some ski conditions that involved a little less work. We park at Ramshead base, and ski over to Snowdon, K-1, Skye, everywhere. Have a fantastic time. She finds some runs she really likes (frolic, bear tracks, launch pad), all greens and pretty easy, but nice scenery and a big improvement over yesterday. We also skied a lot of blues, no blacks that day. The blues were skiing really nice, fresh layer of groomed snow made for almost no ice, and some nice quick runs without working your ass off. Bear claw on bear mountain was really nice that day. Now is a good time to mention, that Killington mid week is E M P T Y. there were a large number of times we skied right on to lifts. Most times less than a minute. I'd say the gondolas were under 3 minutes. Actual skiing was wide open and you weren't getting run over. After skiing, grabbed some beer and hit the pool. Went to dinner at a place called Garlic. Cool atmosphere, very good food. Definitely worth a try.

Girlfriend taking a break on one of the blues - in before donotwant.jpg dowant.jpg maybewantafternap.jpg



Just a good shot of surrounding area.



Wednesday. Same conditions, but about 15-20 degrees warmer. Excellent day for skiing. Now, if you read the first two ski days, you'll know that we weren't exactly killing ourselves on black diamonds. Someone had told us that the black portion of Jug is skiing like a blue. For those not familiar, The Jug is a run that starts blue, turns black about midway, and there is a green that cuts across at the midway point called escape. So we ski the blue portion down to escape and look down at the rest. It doesn't look bad at all, so we head on down the black portion of Jug. Anyone want to guess where this is going? In retrospect, they are not going to put a green run called escape mid way thru a run if "it skis like a blue". So we are in the second half of the jug, come to a ridge and are presented with a choice. Continue on Jug, it isn't overly steep, but is about 12' wide, all moguled up, and has poles for a chair lift running in the middle of it. Second choice is another run, called jug handle, much wider, significantly steeper, and also moguled up. After some profanity, the gf decides to go with narrow and less steep. Personally, I would rather take the steeper/wider one, but I'm not arguing. Pretty tough run in my opinion, mainly because so narrow. after a while, we both make it down, both going down once. We are pretty beat, and take a rest afterward. Ski out the rest of the day on K-1 and Skye peaks. Just beautiful. Again, pool and dinner. Went to Sushi Yoshi that night for hibachi. It was good, pretty standard hibachi place.

Me taking a break on one of the blues - in before donotwant.jpg dowant.jpg maybewantafternap.jpg


Frozen Trees & Blue Sky



Thursday. Last day of skiing. Temp is about 20 degrees. Slight overcast, slight flurries, but nothing like Monday. Another great day. Went back to a lot of our favorite runs. Also got in a lot of the blues I had wanted to hit but hadn't had the chance (squeeze play, rime, cruise control). Hit Wilfire (black) over on Bear mountain. It was moguled up, but not steep and very wide. GF doesn't like moguls, but it was pretty easy for a mogul run, and much less dramatic than The Jug. While on the Bear Mountain quad, we saw some people doing Outter Limits. I think its the longest/steepest mogul run out east, just looks ridiculous, did not try that. Other black I snuck in was part of Needle's Eye. Didn't take it from Skye Peak, but cut in about 1/2 way thru the black section. After the moguls at in the black section, it turns into a nice steep blue (steep for a blue ldo) right along the Skye Ship Gondola. After skiing did the pool and dinner. Went to dinner at a bed and breakfast called birch ridge inn. Dinner was fantastic. GF had beef tournadoes, I had lamb tenderloin. The tenderloin was massive for $29. Very nice wine list. Bottles from $30 to $250 and everything in between. definitely would recommend.

Sun on Snowshed Slope



View from the Pool - in before donotwantcoorslight.jpg dowantcoorslight.jpg maybewantcoorslightafternap.jpg



Friday. Got up, checked out and headed home

Overall.
Great skiing, fantastic trip. Stayed at North star Lodge, while nothing exceptional, was good for the trip. Outdoor heated pool open year round. They have a bar with a small menu (website says no restaurant) but you can get lasagna, chicken fingers, couple other things. 5 night stay with two 4 day lift tix was $960, which I though was very reasonable. Killington is empty midweek, makes for a great time. We are going to try to do a trip out west next year, I'll be leaning on you guys for advice on where to go when the time comes. If we don't head out west, Killington is definitely in the running, any other VT/east resorts that are recommended? For an out west trip, going to definitely need to get in better shape over the summer...
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