I'd think they would get suspicious when Calvin Klein became a big deal, and especially when he started making underwear. Maybe they thought their friend had become a fashion designer.

lololololol excellent point totally blanked on that one.

You know it's not called the Mediterranean Ocean, right?

"Oh what a nice pair of jeans. Gosh that name rings a bell..."

George is obsessed with science fiction and becomes a science fiction writer in the altered timeline. I'm pretty sure that he would have read The Time Machine.

ya the whole way marty convinces him to ask his mom to the dance is by dressing up like an alien and commanding him to.
he's the ideal candidate to believe in time travel.

Time travel movies should be exempt from this thread. There are so many causality loops and paradoxes that it's not really worth it to look at the plot holes. You want a time travel movie without a ton of plot holes, you'll end up with Primer.

well to be fair this isn't anything to do with the mechanics of time travel or any of that it's purely the fact they don't recognize him, but the point is valid.

To Lorraine, Marty was just some guy she had a crush on for a week. She was a bit of a slut, so it's doubtful she remembers most of her crushes, especially since her adult self is in denial about what a slut she was.

I mean aside from the fact that he played a major role in setting her up with her future husband in what had to be the single most memorable week of her teenage life.

to characterize it as just some random crush is kindv insane.

I feel like I'm either watching a different movie or ppl haven't watched it in 20+ years and don't really remember it that well.

oh ya and how about how he described some incident where he did something that in the original timeline they apparently got really mad about and asked them to go easy on their kid.
you would think maybe when that exact same thing happened it might trigger a memory.

dunno maybe I'm in the minority but I remember my high school years extremely well and remember in great detail lots of things that were way less memorable.

This incident probably wouldn't have happened in the new timeline. But a lot of stuff definitely doesn't add up. It really can't in any movie that involves the inherently illogical reverse tome travel though, and easily excused in a silly movie that doesn't take itself seriously.

ya this is clearly correct.
still fun to think about tho, esp as I've seen the 1st 2 BTTF films at least 10 times.

What about Doc at the end of the 1st movie saying they need to rush to save Marty's son.

Why the rush?

He should tell Marty to spend a weekend up at the cabin banging his gf, then they could go to the future. There's no big rush.

Why take his gf? She wasn't part of the plan to save the kid.

Also Marty jnr looking IDENTICAL to his Dad, is crazy.

There's heaps of holes.

Still doesn't stop it from being the GOAT trilogy.

Depending upon how you define trilogy for purposes of this discussion, I don't even think it would be in my top 5.

For example, I would consider The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly, along with Fistful of Dollars, and For A Few Dollars More, to be a movie trilogy even though it wasn't originally envisioned to be. In fact, some may consider that to be the GOAT movie trilogy.

I would also consider the original Star Wars movies, now labeled as Episodes IV-VI, as a better trilogy, even though there are now 8 (or 9 if you consider Rogue One).

I would also call Christopher Nolan's three Batman films a trilogy and would put that above BTTF.

Godfather I-III would also be in my top five, even though III came much later and wasn't nearly as good as the first two.

My final pick in my top 5 would be the Lord of the Rings trilogy. And there can be no argument at all as whether it counts as a trilogy considering all three parts were filmed at the same time and tell a continuing story.

And although I didn't include it in my top 5, I'm sure that there is at least one poster on this forum who would consider the original Bourne films as the GOAT trilogy, ainec.

You know, this discussion my warrant it's own thread!

Not just this but the bigger issue is that going by the logic of the first movie, it makes more sense to fix things in 1985 instead of traveling to the future.

not quite sure its a plot hole cause we don't really know the actual layout of gotham's streets but when the convoy is taking dent from city to county prison and they run into the flaming obstruction and so the lead car has them divert down onto lower 5th where according to one officer "we'll be like turkeys on thanksgiving" you can clearly see in the picture the road is perfectly clear the same way they are going all they have to do is get around the one flaming obstruction in the road.

the obstruction is just one fire engine thats on fire and then past that the road is perfectly clear again.

and the opposite side of the street is perfectly clear too, its ridic that they're just like oh well got to go exactly where he obv wants us to go and where we are totally susceptible to an ambush.

also they have a helicopter escorting them but somehow the convoy is caught totally by surprise just moments before encountering the fire engine in flames.
how the **** does the copter not spot that miles in advance warn them of it and advise them to cross over onto the other side of the street???

wtf is the point of having the helicopter escort them if they're not even looking ahead??? how the **** do you even fly a helicopter and not look in front of you??

they could easily do this just by crossing over onto the other lane and go down the wrong way for a block and then cross back over.

the shot clearly shows this would be doable and they already said before the convoy left that all the streets had been cleared so its not like there is any reason they can't drive the wrong way down the street.

why divert down into the spot the joker clearly is trying to funnel them to?

seems like really poor tactical decision making and speaking of which, why have such clearly inexperienced officers who are incapable of simple logic and decision making leading this super important convoy?

Stupid decisions != plot holes

ya thats true, tho the helicopter not noticing the giant burning fire engine before the lead cop car seems like a plot hole.

also the fact there are 2 cop cars following the swat truck in one shot and then in the immediate shot there is a 3rd car in the convoy.

Meh, the cop car thing is just a goof. There lots of types of errors, not everything is a plot hole. You seem to give it a much broader definition than everyone else.

ya im probably using plot hole too liberally.

continuity errors certainly aren't plot holes.

however im standing by the helicopter not spotting the burning fire engine as a plot hole as the whole big chase sequence/ambush is reliant on that.

Think both of those can be explained. The cops in the car have to make an immediate decision on what do when faced with the obstacle and they don't want to stop the convoy at any cost. Helicopter happened to loop back to check there was no tail or something to that effect

I mean when the lead car says to divert down to lower 5th they make a point of cutting to the swat van where the cop says "we'll be like turkeys on Thanksgiving down there".

if they made such a big deal about the route and the roads being clear it seems like a MASSIVE tactical **** up to A) not have helicopter scanning route ahead for possible issues and advising best alternatives and B) to divert to a route that is clearly a funnel for an ambush rather than simply crossing over onto the opposite lane of traffic to avoid a single burning fire engine.

I mean good lord how ****ing inept is the gotham pd that you can place a single burning fire engine across 2 lanes of a 4 lane street and they completely lose their **** and change their carefully planned route into an obv ambush?

this one seems really hard to defend as anything other than sloppy/lazy writing.

dunno if that's necessarily a plot hole or just silly writing tho.

Please stop ruining one of the GOAT movies. This is at worst sloppy writing, but you have to remember that while watching the movie, things are happening fast, so if they get rerouted because of a burning truck, we bought it (I know I did when I saw this in the theaters), so we can all just STFU about nitpicky sloppy writing/directing, and enjoy the spectacle that was that amazing action sequence. As for that video that was posted about how Nolan sucks at filming action sequences using this chase scene as the example, I found it pointless. I never felt disoriented during this scene. I understand the criticisms of the truck driving off the bridge in the opposite direction, and the cars not being in the correct lane, etc... but again, while watching this scene, all I did was munch some more popcorn with a big stupid grin on my face.

ya i agree.
when he breaks it down frame by frame its clear nothing makes sense however i've watched the movie multiple times and never once felt disoriented by what was happening or thought it didnt make sense.

however that thing with the helicopter and the burning fire engine did always bug me.