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08-29-2015 , 12:35 AM
que?
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08-29-2015 , 12:37 AM
matrix

humans used as batteries

independence today

downloading virus
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08-29-2015 , 01:20 AM
Matrix always bugged me that they used the least efficient mammals. Humans use something like 40% of energy just to keep our brains running.

Cows would be much more efficient and easier to feed. Plus, the Matrix could be a sunny green field forever.
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08-29-2015 , 01:25 AM
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Was a joke about the fighting scene where Sonny's hand never comes within 6 inches of Carlo.
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08-29-2015 , 01:39 AM
I just re watched that scene.

While I agree the choreography could be better I only saw one punch that was way off. The others all looked somewhat reasonable.
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08-29-2015 , 01:41 AM
But that's not why Sonny gets killed!
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08-29-2015 , 01:52 AM
Then again it's a complicated question
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08-29-2015 , 05:15 AM
I just wish someone had had the foresight to kill Talia Shire
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08-29-2015 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ITT666
I just re watched that scene.

While I agree the choreography could be better I only saw one punch that was way off. The others all looked somewhat reasonable.
I always appreciated him biting his fingers off the railing as a decent bit of tactical realism, as far as most genre film fights go.

And Caan peeling off two C-notes and tossing them on the ground after breaking the paparazzi's camera at the opening wedding scene is among the top 10 cinematic gestures of all time.
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09-01-2015 , 10:47 PM
I'm watching Bad Lieutenant, which is a great movie btw, and Harvey Keitel is taking action on the playoff series from his cop buddies but then giving both sides of it to his bookie (as well as pressing his "personal" bets that are much bigger). Wtf, why are you just giving away vig?

California Split might be literally the only movie to get gambling right.
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09-02-2015 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by legend42
California Split might be literally the only movie to get gambling right.
The Hustler?
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09-02-2015 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chocaholic2
The Hustler?
I adore The Hustler, but a couple of the gambling moments miss the mark. First the "just for that kid, I'm gonna beat you flat" isn't something a seasoned hustler would say. You'd know how to deal with these cocky wannabes. But okay, he was at a weak character phase and wanted to show those punks what the game could be like when it was great. No, but okay.

The last match with Fats, though. Is Fats playing with his own money? If so, why? He knows Eddie can beat him when sober and motivated. You have to assume George C. Scott is backing Fats. But again, why? I guess he could be free-rolling if Eddie wins, but there's just almost no way anyone is playing for $3000 a game (in 1960, no less) without knowing whose money they're risking.

But it's such a great movie and those plot holes are relatively minor. Actually, Let it Ride gets gambling pretty right. It might be Ed and Joseph Walsh who are the keys to authentic gambling movies! From the California Split commentary track, I'm pretty sure they are a couple of degens.
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09-02-2015 , 11:20 PM
I was going to mention Let it Ride a few hours ago but got sidetracked.
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09-16-2015 , 11:28 AM
If the T-800 destroyed his own chip, in T2 and Genesys, from which the Terminators originated, how can one be sent back in time to kill Sarah, then save John, then back even further to save Sarah as a child?
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09-16-2015 , 11:32 AM
Multiple timelines. It's tough for a lot of people to wrap their heads around it, but once you grasp it it makes sense. TSCC first delved into the whole "multiple future timelines converging in the past", that made it easier to understand (they didn't cram it into 30 seconds of explanation).
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09-16-2015 , 02:10 PM
I don't think it does. I posted a video in the movie thread, I'll try and dig it up later.
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09-16-2015 , 03:14 PM
It's not a plot hole. It's a paradox.
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09-16-2015 , 03:27 PM
a wizard did it
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09-17-2015 , 05:26 PM
In Fast and Furious 7, they parachute the cars onto a mountain road so they can get the bad guys off guard, but they are still behind them going up the mountain. Couldn't they just have followed them instead of going for their .5% shot?
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09-17-2015 , 08:09 PM
Or they could have sat on the mountain waiting for bad guys to come to them. Or they could have used appropriate vehicles instead of modifying their own cars. But then we miss the stunt of driving cars out of an airplane, and badass stunts are the point of the whole franchise.
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09-17-2015 , 08:18 PM
Or they could have made a great movie instead of a BS car chase flick, and maybe a plot hole would have actually belonged in this thread...
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09-17-2015 , 08:35 PM
Isn't a requisite for a plot hole a plot?
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09-25-2015 , 12:10 AM
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But that's not why Sonny gets killed!
The killing of Sonny was always a plot hole to me. Barzinis plan was to have a woman call Carlos house, that would start an argument and Carlo would beat her ass. Connie would then call Sonny who would immediately fly off the handle and head for Carlo's house where they could ambush him at a toll booth, where in the middle of the day there would be no other cars in sight. There were alot of variables in that plan.
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09-25-2015 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sweep single
The killing of Sonny was always a plot hole to me. Barzinis plan was to have a woman call Carlos house, that would start an argument and Carlo would beat her ass. Connie would then call Sonny who would immediately fly off the handle and head for Carlo's house where they could ambush him at a toll booth, where in the middle of the day there would be no other cars in sight. There were alot of variables in that plan.
FWIW, as originally written by Mario Puzo, the ambush took place at night on the deserted tollway. That also explains why only one lane of the tollbooth was staffed. From the book:

… He headed the Buick toward the causeway that would take him over the water from Long Beach to the parkways on the other side of Jones Beach. He always used this route when he went to New York … The causeway was badly lit, there was not a single car. Far ahead he saw the white cone of the manned tollbooth. There were other tollbooths beside it, but they were staffed only during the day, for heavier traffic. Sonny started braking the Buick and at the same time searched his pockets for change…
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09-25-2015 , 12:31 PM
This sort of thing happens all the time in the movies. Someone commits some sort of crime (a lot of times in the city) and there is nobody around.
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