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09-11-2007 , 05:00 AM
Is this one famous or obscure? I know it's well known in Boston, I don't know if younger people around the country are familiar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoanut_Grove_fire

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The Cocoanut Grove was a nightclub in Boston, Massachusetts. On November 28, 1942, the fashionable nightclub burned in what remains the deadliest nightclub fire in United States history, killing 492 people and injuring hundreds more. It was also the second-worst single-building fire in American history. The Iroquois Theater fire in Chicago in 1903 killed more (602). The tragedy shocked the nation and briefly replaced World War II news headlines. The fire led to a reform of fire codes and safety standards across the country.
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As is common in panic situations, many patrons attempted to exit through the main entrance, the same way they had come in. However, the building's main entrance was a single revolving door, immediately rendered useless as the panicked crowd scrambled for safety. Bodies piled up behind both sides of the revolving door, jamming it to the extent that firefighters had to dismantle it in order to get inside. Other avenues of escape were similarly useless: side doors had been welded shut to prevent people from leaving without settling their bills. A plate glass window, which could have been smashed for escape, was instead boarded up and unusable as an emergency exit. Other unlocked doors opened inwards, rendering them useless against the crush of people trying to escape.
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The top-ranked Boston College football team had made victory party reservations at the club that evening, but canceled after an upset 55-12 loss to rival Holy Cross dampened their spirits.
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In the year that followed the fire, Massachusetts and other states enacted laws for public establishments which banned flammable decorations and inward-swinging exit doors, required exit signs to be visible at all times, and stated that revolving doors used for egress must either be flanked by at least one normal, outward-swinging door, or retrofitted to permit the individual doors to fold flat to permit free-flowing traffic in a panic situation.
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09-11-2007 , 05:07 AM
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I think a lot of people have forgotten about the 1980 MGM fire in Las Vegas
I hadn't forgotten the fire--I just never knew about the extent of the casualties.
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09-11-2007 , 08:50 AM
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Construction on the 40-story Hyatt Regency Hotel began in 1978, and the hotel opened in July 1980 after some construction delays.[citation needed] One of the defining features of the hotel was its lobby, which featured a multistory atrium crossed by suspended concrete walkways on the second, third, and fourth levels, with the fourth level walkway directly above the second level walkway.
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On July 17, 1981, approximately 2,000 people had gathered in the atrium to participate in and watch a dance contest. Dozens stood on the walkways. At 7:05 PM, the walkways on the second, third, and fourth floor were packed with visitors as they watched over the active lobby, which was also full of people. The fourth floor bridge was suspended directly over the second floor bridge, with the third floor walkway set off to the side several meters away from the other two. Construction issues led to a subtle but flawed design change that doubled the load on the connection between the fourth floor walkway support beams and the tie rods carrying the weight of the second floor walkway. This new design could barely handle the dead load weight of the structure itself, much less the weight of the spectators standing on it. The connection failed and both walkways crashed onto the lobby, killing 114 people and injuring more than 200 others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_R...lkway_collapse
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09-11-2007 , 10:23 AM
My college roommate was in a mechanical engineering class a year or two after this. Somebody in the class was whining that an exam should have been graded on the curve.

The professor said, "They probably graded the people who designed the Kansas City Hyatt on the curve."
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09-12-2007 , 03:02 AM
The KC hotel lobby is another one where I remember the event, but not the numbers.

As I read the post, I'm thinking, "Yeah, I remember that...lobby, dance contest, crowded catwalks, faulty design...HOW MANY PEOPLE GOT KILLED????"

Either that, or 300+ casualties meant nothing to me when I was a kid, but it shakes me today.
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09-12-2007 , 10:43 AM
I was on the road the night it happened. Every time the news came on the radio the body count was higher. It was chilling.
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10-02-2007 , 04:24 PM
Anyone ever hear of the Peshtigo Fire?

http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/Fire.htm
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=889

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It was the largest natural fire in the history of the United States. By some estimates, nearly two thousand people were killed, and tens of thousands were left injured and homeless. The total destruction included entire cites, factories, mills, farms and hundreds of thousands of acres of timberland in two states. Yet, because it happened on the same day as a terrible, but far less devastating fire in a well publicized city to the south, little is known of this tragic disaster. But the scars of that October 8th night in 1871 are painfully visible nearly 130 years later, both on the land, and in the families who were there.

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Superheated winds and tornadoes pulled the heated air upward into the sky, allowing cooler air from Canada and the Western United States to rush in to fill the vacuum. At first these counter winds fed more oxygen to the fire, until ultimately the sucking force was strong enough to cause a major change in wind direction. The fire was blown back onto itself, and it soon starved from a lack of fresh fuel. A mere ninety minutes had passed since the inferno's arrival, but the entire town of Peshtigo had been reduced to smoldering rubble.

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More than 1,200 souls had perished in the Peshtigo Fire, although the true total will never be known due to the town records being destroyed in the blaze. It destroyed every building in town, save one newly-erected building with wood too green to burn. More than 1.25 million acres of forest and prairie were scorched before the winds died down and the fire burned itself out, and the fire caused millions of dollars in damage. Over 350 victims of the fire were buried together in a mass grave, their remnants too charred to be identified.
A witness account:

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"By now the air was literally on fire, scattering its agony throughout the town. Men, women, and children, clad in nightgowns and caps, shrieked with horror when they saw their loved ones burned alive. The entire town was a blazing inferno; there was only one escape; the river! Thousands of people… pressed on with terror in their eyes, going further into the river, where they remained the next day and night. Families were separated; little babies tried desperately to secure footing in the mucky river… yet the river wasn't even safe, for swooping sparks and bits of fire dropped out of the sky burning entire bodies with an instant sweep!"
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10-02-2007 , 04:48 PM
I don't know what possessed me to think of sewage

A sewage reservoir burst next to a village in the northern Gaza Strip on Tuesday, killing at least four people and injuring 20 in a torrent of putrid water and waste that buried their homes, officials said.

Two children, aged one and two, were among the dead in Gaza's small Bedouin Village when the sewage overflowed in what one resident called a man-made tsunami.

"WAVES LIKE MOUNTAINS"
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10-02-2007 , 11:36 PM
This one isn't that exciting , but my mom has told me about being awakened by the explosion when she was a kid.

The Roseburg (Oregon) Blast


On 7 August 1959, at approximately 1:00 am, the Gerretsen Building Supply Company caught fire. Firefighters soon arrived at the building, located near Oak and Pine street, to extinguish the fire. Earlier in the evening, a truck driver for the Pacific Powder Company, George Rutherford, had parked his explosives truck in front of the building, a fact which went unnoticed until shortly before the truck exploded, destroying buildings in an eight-block radius and severely damaging 30 more blocks.

The truck was loaded with two tons of dynamite and 4½ tons of the blasting agent nitro carbo nitrate. Rutherford had parked the truck after arranging his delivery for the following morning, despite warnings given to the Pacific Powder Company two days earlier not to leave such trucks unattended or park them in "congested areas." Fourteen people died in the blast and fire and 125 were injured. Damage was estimated at ten to twelve million dollars; the Powder company was eventually made to pay $1.2 million dollars in civil damages, but was acquitted of criminal wrongdoing.

Roseburg's downtown was rebuilt, primarily by businesses using money collected from insurance claims. The city built a new bridge over the South Umpqua River on parcels affected by the disaster. Since the incident, it is commonly referred to as the "Roseburg Blast" or simply "The Blast." In 2005, SOPTV produced a documentary examining the Blast and the experiences of those who were involved or witnessed it, entitled The Roseburg Blast: A Catastrophe and Its Heroes.
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10-03-2007 , 07:29 PM
Not really a disaster, but this invasion by mice practically destroyed this one farm in Australia. Pretty disgusting. Mice world record

Also, wtf shout-out to daughter trying to eat one. LOL

Edit: Also the Tacoma Bridge collapse is pretty interesting. Who would've thought that solid concrete and metal could bend so easily? Tacoma Bridge
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10-03-2007 , 08:08 PM
Not a Particularly large one in terms of numbers but as it happened in a small mining town and most of the victims were young children it’s still well remembered in Britain. There’s a horrible irony that while their fathers were working down the pit in what would be assumed to be some degree of dangers the children were in school seemingly safe.

THE ABERFAN DISASTER
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10-04-2007 , 04:37 AM
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Not a Particularly large one in terms of numbers
Hey, 116 school kids get killed, don't apologize for "small" numbers.

Your post is exactly why I started this thread. How is it possible that I never heard of a tragedy where 116 little kids got killed?
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08-16-2008 , 05:40 PM
Hey, remember this thread?

I thought of it when a random Wiki link led me to one that happened practically right in my back yard, that I had never heard of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemberton_Mill

I once had a job that was right across the canal from this place, and I never knew anything about it.

At approximately 5:00 a.m. on a workday, workers in nearby factories watched with horror as the Pemberton Mill buckled and then collapsed with a mighty crash.

Dozens were killed instantly and more than six hundred workers, many of them women and children, were trapped in the twisted ruins. As the winter sun not yet having risen, rescuers built bonfires to illuminate their efforts revealing "faces crushed beyond recognition, open wounds in which the bones showed through a paste of dried blood, brick dust, and shredded clothing."

Around 9:30 a.m., with many people still trapped in the twisted wreck of the factory, someone accidentally knocked over an oil lantern. Flames raced across the cotton waste and splintered wood — some of it soaked with oil. A few men slit their own throats rather than be consumed by the approaching flames; one of these was rescued but died from his self-inflicted wound. As the fire grew, rescuers, physicians, families of the trapped victims, and spectators were all driven back by the conflagration.[6] The screams coming from the ruins were soon silenced, leaving rescuers to eventually discover only the burned, smoldering remains of “brick, mortar and human bones … promiscuously mingled”.


Further research reveals that many were uninjured in the collapse, but trapped by the rubble. While they waited patiently to be rescued, the whole thing went up in flames in a flash, killing everyone still trapped.

What a way to go.

As an aside that I hope doesn't hijack the thread, I found a link that reports that the roof came down first, then the top floor gave way as the roof hit it, and each successive floor followed this pattern. I'm told that WTC Conspiracy Theorists don't think a building can collapse this way without the help of a controlled implosion. I thought they may find this story interesting.
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08-18-2008 , 11:50 AM
Sinking of the Steamboat Sultana

On the Mississippi, near Memphis, Tennesses, on April 27, 1865, at the end of the American Civil War

1300-1800 dead ("official" 1,547 , compared to 1,517 for the Titanic ), mostly Union soldiers survivors of the Confederate Prison Camps at Andersonville and Cahawba.
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08-18-2008 , 04:37 PM
I need to reread this thread in its entirety later tonight, but that Sultana one is always fascinating to me. I need to fully investigate it sometime. I'm sure there are books and documentaries (or whatever that would be called in this case).
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08-19-2008 , 02:10 AM
Not sure how well known this one is, but it's a large dam burst near Los Angeles in the 1920's.

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The St. Francis Dam was a concrete gravity-arch dam, designed to create a reservoir as part of the Los Angeles Aqueduct. The dam was located 40 miles (64 km) northwest of Los Angeles, California, near the city of Santa Clarita. The dam was built between 1924 and 1926 under the supervision of William Mulholland, chief engineer and general manager of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (then called the Bureau of Water Works and Supply). Three minutes before midnight on March 12, 1928, the dam catastrophically failed, and the resulting flood killed more than 600 people. The collapse of the St. Francis Dam is the worst American civil engineering failure of the 20th century and remains the second-greatest loss of life in California's history, after the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake and fire, and it marked the end of Mulholland's career.
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Throughout 1926 and 1927, several cracks appeared in the dam and its abutments, some of which leaked muddy water as the reservoir was filled. The cracks and leaks were inspected by Mulholland, who dismissed them as normal for a concrete dam the size of the St. Francis. On March 7, 1928, the reservoir was filled to capacity for the first time, whereupon damkeeper Tony Harnischfeger spotted new cracks and leaks and contacted Mulholland, who again dismissed them as normal.

The same week, motorists traveling on the road along the east shore of the reservoir reported cracks and a deepening sag in the roadbed near the dam's east abutment. By the morning of March 12th, the roadbed had sagged almost five feet (1.5 m).

The same morning of March 12, Harnischfeger discovered a new leak and immediately alerted Mulholland. Mulholland and his assistant Harvey van Norman inspected the new cracks and leaks, and once again Mulholland, convinced the leaks were relatively minor and normal for a concrete dam, pronounced the dam safe.
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Three minutes before midnight on March 12, 1928, the St. Francis Dam catastrophically failed, less than 12 hours after Mulholland had inspected and declared it safe. There were no eyewitnesses to the dam's collapse, but a motorcyclist named Ace Hopewell rode past the dam and reported feeling a rumbling and the sound of "crashing, falling blocks," after riding about a half-mile (800 m) upstream. He assumed this was either an earthquake or another one of the landslides common to the area, not realizing he was the last person to have seen the St. Francis Dam intact, and survive.

Harnischfeger and his family were probably the first to die in the floodwave, which was at least 125 ft (38 m) high when it hit their cottage in the San Francisquito Canyon 1/4 mile (400 m) downstream from the dam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Francis_Dam

This was what I immediately thought of when I saw this thread.. I saw it in some documentary a few years ago.
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08-21-2008 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by KotOD
Anyone ever hear of the Peshtigo Fire
This was the one I opened this thread to post about

Really good thread idea.
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10-30-2008 , 03:39 AM
Great thread that I hope gets perma-bumped. I'm a disaster buff, but this thread uncovered a couple I didn't know about.

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I started to get curious when during the coverage of the Virginia Tech shootings I heard several announcers call it the worst school shooting, but not the worst incidence of school violence in US history. Wikipedia provides us with the answer of what was the worst and I had never heard of it


Bath School Disaster
Speaking of spree killers, here's one that (I think) killed more in a single day/incident than any of the ones we know about in the US...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Ar...cre_(Australia)

Staying with Australia, here an interesting one:

FTA:

"There were a number of people trapped in the train for hours after the accident by part of the bridge crushing a limb or torso; many of these people were conscious and lucid, talking to rescuers, but died of crush syndrome soon after the crushing weight was removed from their bodies due to the sudden release of muscle myoglobins having built up in the limb, causing renal failure. This resulted in changes to rescue procedures for these kinds of accidents."

Crush syndrome is often incorrectly referred to as toxic shock syndrome.
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10-30-2008 , 04:45 PM
1889 Johnstown Flood near Pgh PA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood

The total death toll for the disaster was 2,209 dead. 99 entire families had died, including 396 children. 124 women and 198 men were left without their spouses, 98 children lost both parents. 777 victims (1 of every 3 bodies found) were never identified and rest in the Plot of the Unknown in Grandview Cemetery.

Some 57 minutes after the South Fork Dam collapsed, the flood hit Johnstown. The inhabitants of Johnstown were caught by surprise as the wall of water and debris bore down on the village, traveling at 40 miles per hour (64 km/h) and reaching a height of 60 feet (18 m) in places. Some, realizing the danger, tried to escape by running towards high ground. But most people were hit by the surging floodwater. Many people were crushed by pieces of debris, and others became caught in barbed wire from the wire factory upstream. Those who sought safety in attics, or managed to stay afloat on pieces of floating debris, waited hours for help to arrive.
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10-30-2008 , 05:37 PM
Dude, the Johnstown flood is about as obscure as the Titanic.
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10-30-2008 , 05:42 PM
I had no idea it was known outside of PA

Anyone else that read this thread routinely watch Air Emergency and
Seconds to Disaster.
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10-30-2008 , 06:12 PM
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Dude, the Johnstown flood is about as obscure as the Titanic.
I had never heard of it...

In non-ocean, non Brit/American influenced areas Titanic might be news.
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10-30-2008 , 07:57 PM
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I had no idea it was known outside of PA

Anyone else that read this thread routinely watch Air Emergency and
Seconds to Disaster.
Hells yes, although according to (once again), Wikipedia, Seconds to Disaster isn't being made anymore, and there's quite a few more episodes of Air Emergency (it's not a NatGeo exclusive and is called different things in different countries) than they are showing on NatGeo USA for some reason, as the reruns play on (I've had it on Tivo season pass for years).

It's Mayday in Canada and Air Crash Investigation in the UK and Oz. Produced in Canada.
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10-31-2008 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by post1958
1889 Johnstown Flood near Pgh PA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood

The total death toll for the disaster was 2,209 dead. 99 entire families had died, including 396 children. 124 women and 198 men were left without their spouses, 98 children lost both parents. 777 victims (1 of every 3 bodies found) were never identified and rest in the Plot of the Unknown in Grandview Cemetery.

Some 57 minutes after the South Fork Dam collapsed, the flood hit Johnstown. The inhabitants of Johnstown were caught by surprise as the wall of water and debris bore down on the village, traveling at 40 miles per hour (64 km/h) and reaching a height of 60 feet (18 m) in places. Some, realizing the danger, tried to escape by running towards high ground. But most people were hit by the surging floodwater. Many people were crushed by pieces of debris, and others became caught in barbed wire from the wire factory upstream. Those who sought safety in attics, or managed to stay afloat on pieces of floating debris, waited hours for help to arrive.
David McCullough's first book brought this disaster into popular culture.
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02-22-2009 , 01:20 PM
It doesn't really fit in here, because it was the consequence of WWII, but it amazes me how little known the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff is in Germany. It is the maritime incident with the biggest loss of lives in history. Most of the ~9000 people that were killed were civilians, even though the Gustloff was considered a military target, as it carried military personel as well.
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