No Country For Old Men - Page 11 - The Lounge Discussion and Review on Literature, Arts, Culture

lozen · 06-11-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RichGangi

Now THIS is a man who knows his movies. Please post more.

I just didnt think it was worth all the praise it got. I found some of the other Oscar nominated movies to be better. I thought the best actor award was deserving though. I thought they never showed the end of the main charachter and how he died. If I had to choose best picture I would have picked JUno or In the valley of ......

Also many said it was too violent and i found that to be untrue also. Yeah he killed a bunch but I many movies are worse

Thug Bubbles · 06-11-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by gusmahler

There was no problem with what happened to each of the characters. The problem was ending with the weird Tommy Lee Jones monologue. Through most of the movie, he's an unimportant character. Yet the ending focuses on him.

The movie BEGINS with a monologue with him, so he's not exactly a throw-away character. The movie's three monologues, all center around his character. it begins and ends with him. The movie's message involves TLJ's representation of the old way/old world and is interpreted through him.

RichGangi · 06-11-2008, 11:59 AM

Lozen, if you didnt like it thats fine. Everyones entitled to their opinion. To say it was 'no more than a steven Segal movie with better actors' is just ridiculous though.

Blarg · 06-11-2008, 12:55 PM

But you've got to admit it was funny.

lozen · 06-13-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RichGangi

Lozen, if you didnt like it thats fine. Everyones entitled to their opinion. To say it was 'no more than a steven Segal movie with better actors' is just ridiculous though.

I chatted with one of the actors that was nominated for best supporting actor and he was not thrilled about the movie also. He laughed at my analogy and said it was not to far of from his own.

Hey its how I felt. Did I enjoy the movie. It was OK to and i am always a fan of anything Tommy Lee Jones does.
You are right would this make you happier

It is a Jean van claude Damme movie with better actors

Kimbell175113 · 06-13-2008, 01:52 PM

Seagal's next DVD should have as a pullquote

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"No Country for Old Men with worse actors!" - lozen, twoplustwo.com

on the cover.

qwertyu121 · 06-15-2008, 11:06 AM

brillaint film, some ppl r to ignorant to think its good cuz they think the ending is bad but its rly just an amzingly well done film, and the ending isnt bad btw

lozen · 06-15-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimbell175113

Seagal's next DVD should have as a pullquote on the cover.

Good One

Phildo · 06-16-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Thug Bubbles

Checking out some reviews, I decided to look into the select few who didn't like the film. Most seem to say it's just to dark for their tastes, but this Washington Post review maanged to explain why they didn't like it structurally and thematically. Oddly enough, I agree with every grievance he has with the film. However, I simply liked these things he didn't.

For example, he seems to think it's a generic thriller, with no character development, and while accepting that and being happy with a well put-together chase film he felt cheated when they didn't show the pay-off (the Anton/Moss showdown). I completely understand his annoyance, but simply like that very choice. No real explanation. I just liked it where he didn't.

I thought it was one of the few negative reviews that was acceptable.

this review is pretty silly when you realize that the reviewer writes generic thrillers about violent men killing each other that feature no character development and villains that are far more absurd than chigurh (that a guy who came up with the albino character in pale horse coming can bash chigurh for being absurd blows my ****ing mind). his books are fun for what they are but he's basically mccarthy without the amazing prose and depth. this is the most hypocritical movie review of all time unless he somehow holds books to lesser standards than he does movies.

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Originally Posted by lozen

I just didnt think it was worth all the praise it got. I found some of the other Oscar nominated movies to be better. I thought the best actor award was deserving though. I thought they never showed the end of the main charachter and how he died. If I had to choose best picture I would have picked JUno or In the valley of ......

so this is a steven seagal movie with better actors but you think juno was the best movie of the year? that is insane sir. juno's about as deep as a kiddie pool. but hey, wasn't that dialogue witty.

lozen · 06-16-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Phildo

this review is pretty silly when you realize that the reviewer writes generic thrillers about violent men killing each other that feature no character development and villains that are far more absurd than chigurh (that a guy who came up with the albino character in pale horse coming can bash chigurh for being absurd blows my ****ing mind). his books are fun for what they are but he's basically mccarthy without the amazing prose and depth. this is the most hypocritical movie review of all time unless he somehow holds books to lesser standards than he does movies.

so this is a steven seagal movie with better actors but you think juno was the best movie of the year? that is insane sir. juno's about as deep as a kiddie pool. but hey, wasn't that dialogue witty.

No i said I would pick Juno or In the valley of Elijah over No Country. I never said I didnt like the movie I just said I ddint think it desreved best picture. The others I have not seen yet. I will watch the Oil one soon but doubt I willw atch the others. Obviously you didnt think Juno was great. Its subjective.

RacersEdge · 07-26-2008, 03:41 PM

What to people get out of this movie? It's basically a chase movie with a lot of gratuitous violence imo. The theme seems pretty bleak as well - not any redeeming quality to this movie. The psychopath being killed in the car accident would have made for a better ending to mirror his belief in the randomness of life.

Can someone who liked this movie articulate their view?

Dominic · 07-26-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RacersEdge

What to people get out of this movie? It's basically a chase movie with a lot of gratuitous violence imo. The theme seems pretty bleak as well - not any redeeming quality to this movie. The psychopath being killed in the car accident would have made for a better ending to mirror his belief in the randomness of life.

Can someone who liked this movie articulate their view?

why not read the rest of the thread first? Lots of answers there, I presume.

RacersEdge · 07-26-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic

why not read the rest of the thread first? Lots of answers there, I presume.

OK, maybe I'll try to read it next week - just don't like reading a lot of a screen.

Blarg · 07-26-2008, 04:02 PM

Hi my name is Blarg.

Ser William · 07-27-2008, 11:16 PM

While I don't agree with people who argue that the ending was terrible, I *do* believe that a less jarring ending that might have accomplished the same thing would have been to have Ed Tom Bell's speech as a voiceover rather than as a conversation. Sort of like mirroring the intro. I think people just weren't expecting the movie to end there whereas with a voiceover (over similar imagery as the beginning) you can mentally prepare yourself for the end.

Stagger_Lee · 07-28-2008, 02:09 AM

After all the hype, I finally watched this last night.

Reminded me more of Desperado than Fargo.

Re: The Motel scene - my first reaction was that Anton was in an adjacent motel room, and had pulled the cash through the vent, knowing that this was Moss' method from the last place, hence no stand-off with the Sheriff.

Also, in the gas station, where Anton is discussing the importance of the coin, right at the end I was sure he said "or not"

It seemed that Woody Harrelson and Tommy Lee were conspiring to ruin a good film. It's a good thing they failed - but they tried.

Dominic · 07-28-2008, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmitty 87

meh i don't like when people say this.

movies are movies. books are books. when i watch a movie, i don't expect to have the same feeling or enjoyment as i do when reading a book, even if it's the same story. the goal of a movie based on a book should be to be a good movie, not to "do a book justice." likely there's some overlap, but definitely not 100%.

A+++++

Sotiria · 08-13-2008, 02:17 AM

The ending of this movie =

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DamienT · 08-14-2008, 06:06 PM

This movie sucks !!!

RichGangi · 08-14-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by damienthierry

This movie sucks !!!

Edited to add: Its not because you didnt like the movie, more so because of your insightful post.

DOOM@ALL_CAPS · 09-03-2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by andyfox

Woody Harrelson was just plain awful, and I didn't understand why he was even in the movie.

What am I missing, guys?

My friend thought his casting was a reference to Natural Born Killers especially when he says, "He's a psychopathic killer, but so what? There's plenty of them around."

DOOM@ALL_CAPS · 09-03-2012, 08:45 PM

I just finished rewatching this and give it a 4/5. I'm pretty sure I 'get it' but it really does detract from the movie to have a very structured plot (the chase) followed by less structured, reflective events. Overall, very good movie.

dex 1 · 09-13-2012, 01:30 AM

One thing that added to the "Gravitas" of this movie was the casting. Two actors that I think may not be appreciated enough are Woody & Tommy Lee....I thought they were both spot on in this.

Kraak · 09-13-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DamienT

This movie sucks !!!

This movie was awesome.