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Old 11-09-2007, 07:46 PM   #1
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No Country For Old Men

Best movie of the year.

Off the top of my head I go
1.NCFOM
2.Zodiac
3.Gone Baby Gone
4.Michael Clayton
5. Bourne Ultimatum

Never read the book...vaguely knew what it was about from the trailer.

Brolin and Bardem give [censored] amazing performances. Bardem villain is up there will Hans Gruber, Hannibal, etc.
The directing, locations, set design, cine..everything is just flat out perfect. Tommy Lee Jones is solid playing his typical role.

Very violent obv., the fight scenes and shootouts are so damn intense its sick. Even Bardem having a conversation with a gas attendant makes yr heart pound.

There is very little exterior music added to the film...everythig you hear is sound coming from within the scene itself...kind of like Dead Calm.

Lots of humor too...I was surprised how often people were laughing at jokes etc.

One of the Coen Brothers best.
Go see it.

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Old 11-09-2007, 08:38 PM   #2
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Thanks. It got a rave review in the L.A. Times today. New Yorker didn't like it much.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:48 PM   #3
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Re: No Country For Old Men

The book was kind of a period piece set in the late '70s. Is the movie as well?
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:10 PM   #4
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It looks pretty good. Has anyone read the book? It won a Pulitzer right?

The movie got like 94% on RT. I'll probably check it out some time next week.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:50 PM   #5
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god i really want to see it but its not released here. damn. ty for review.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:58 PM   #6
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Re: No Country For Old Men

i thought cormac mccarthy's "The Road" was outstanding. i might have to read this one now. Of course by reading the book i will likely ruin the movie experience. OTOH if I watch the movie I will ruin the book

edit: I know "The Road" won a pulitzer... don't know about this one
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:54 PM   #7
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this isn't playing in Vegas yet...can't wait
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:26 AM   #8
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The book was kind of a period piece set in the late '70s. Is the movie as well?
Yes..takes place in 70s.

Yeah, saw it at a screening monday...Brolin and Bardem did a Q&A afterwards which was cool.

I think it comes out this weekend in limited release then goes wide next week.

I'll def see it again next week. Def go see it in a good theater with really good sound.

Bardem really should be nominated for an Oscar for his performance. Brolin is amazing as well.
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:16 AM   #9
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i might have to read this one now. Of course by reading the book i will likely ruin the movie experience. OTOH if I watch the movie I will ruin the book

edit: I know "The Road" won a pulitzer... don't know about this one
Awesome movie. Sticks very close to the book (which didn't win a Pulitzer, fwiw). Almost all of the dialogue is straight from the book. I found that I enjoyed the book and movie about equally, but there were some parts I liked better in the book and vice versa.

Bardem was sensational, of course, and I'm a big Tommy Lee Jones fan. I don't usually like Josh Brolin, but he was great too. I also really enjoyed Garret Dillahunt in a small role as Jones's deputy.

It was weird watching a Coen brothers movie without the usual Coen cast of characters, though (save Stephen Root). Maybe we could've had Billy Bob instead of Woody, or at least Jon Polito playing the Tommy Lee role...
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:56 PM   #10
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Cannot wait.
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:53 AM   #11
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Dom did you ever do anything with that script you wrote?

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Old 11-11-2007, 04:40 AM   #12
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Dom did you ever do anything with that script you wrote?

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It was just optioned by an independent producer in L.A. So the writer's strike happened at the right time, obviously. At least I got paid first!
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:26 AM   #13
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It was just optioned by an independent producer in L.A. So the writer's strike happened at the right time, obviously. At least I got paid first!
Tell him you insist I play the lead. I promise to be at least as good as Steven Seagal would be.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:10 PM   #14
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You don't understand. The lead role calls for someone with a really GOOD ponytail.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:02 PM   #15
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That's true, it does.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:47 PM   #16
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A Big Disappointment

Saw it this afternoon. It was Fargo redone in Texas without the novelty. Same story. I liked Fargo a lot. This was boring. Bardem was like watching a robot. Brolin was good, following up on another good performance in American Gangster. The last hour was just slow and dull. The only time there was any interest on screen, for me, was when Tommy Lee Jones was there. And I didn't understand the last scene, nor the next to last scene.

Maybe I just don't get it. And, I have to admit, I don't understand what the movie was about, what purpose there was for making it. Woody Harrelson was just plain awful, and I didn't understand why he was even in the movie.

What am I missing, guys?
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:43 PM   #17
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Saw it this afternoon. It was Fargo redone in Texas without the novelty. Same story. I liked Fargo a lot. This was boring. Bardem was like watching a robot. Brolin was good, following up on another good performance in American Gangster. The last hour was just slow and dull. The only time there was any interest on screen, for me, was when Tommy Lee Jones was there. And I didn't understand the last scene, nor the next to last scene.

Maybe I just don't get it. And, I have to admit, I don't understand what the movie was about, what purpose there was for making it. Woody Harrelson was just plain awful, and I didn't understand why he was even in the movie.

What am I missing, guys?
given u thought 3:10 to Yuma was an all time great western...this review was totally expected lol.

But I'm sure some people won't like the pacing of the film regardless if they like the film itself.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:54 PM   #18
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I agree that the similarities to Fargo are there: the vicious psychopath, vast empty landscapes, a cop who can't fathom the depth of the ongoing depravity. I think the main difference is this is kind of a continuation of the theme; the crimes in Fargo were an anomaly, the type of things that just don't happen in those kinds of places. In NCFOM, however, the senseless crimes are more a harbinger of what's to come, of an area that's going to be riddled with violence because of the drug menace. The events of Fargo happened because of one man's greed, and they ended when the few agents responsible were stopped; the events of this movie will continue to happen because of the greed of many, most of whom will never be stopped, or even known.

I think Bardem was supposed to be robotic. He was a man who was so committed to his twisted principles that he couldn't allow any deviation from them. He was like Hannibal Lecter in that Hannibal had a very strange sense of etiquette that he followed religiously, and expected others to do the same. Anton Chigurh had his code, and he followed it even when there was no gain in it for him (example/spoiler: the scene where he went out of his way to murder the wife, for instance ).

And I agree that Woody was the weak link of the film, but I don't know that I'd go so far as to call him awful. He had more of a purpose in the book, as he revealed a little about Chigurh's character and placed the events of the story in a bigger picture.

When you say you didn't understand the last two scenes, are you speaking of the ones at Tommy Lee Jones's house and that of his uncle or whomever that was?
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:59 AM   #19
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I haven't seen the flick yet, but your comments about it were really interesting, jester, and made me want to see it more.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:05 AM   #20
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Dom did you ever do anything with that script you wrote?

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It was just optioned by an independent producer in L.A. So the writer's strike happened at the right time, obviously. At least I got paid first!
Awesome. I want an invite to the premier and the wrap party so I can meet Jenna obv.

For any that haven't read Dom's screenplay, beg him to link to it. Great story in the genre of some of the movies talked about in this thread.

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Old 11-12-2007, 01:08 AM   #21
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the scenes at the end of the movie were a bit out of place because they are taken from larger scenes and narration that is used for a different purpose in the book. i'm not going to get into it because there are a lot of spoilers, but the end of the book is a bit different than the movie. this isn't a knock on the movie, the book actually drags a bit at the end and the movie avoids this. i think the book does a much better job of getting deeper into the characters, their moral fiber, and why they do what they do. it also draws parallels between the sheriff and moss' characters that are left out in the movie.

the book, at its core, is comparing the two characters (mainly what they are willing to risk to follow their "morals") chigurh represents someone without morals who therefore can follow his code without a problem. chigurh never has any decisions of his own, there is always a clear choice for him, and the closest he ever comes to choice is flipping a coin. he can do this because he is a sociopath, but "normal" people cannot. the book compares how the sheriff and moss make different choices, and examines the consequences.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:11 AM   #22
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"When you say you didn't understand the last two scenes, are you speaking of the ones at Tommy Lee Jones's house and that of his uncle or whomever that was?"

Yes. Was the uncle's talk supposed to show that violence was always a part of the local environment? I had trouble discerning exactly what Jones said about his dream, he sort of mumbled it a bit. What I did get I couldn't relate to the rest of the movie.

Woody always seems to me to be playing his character from Cheers.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:35 AM   #23
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I can't recall off the top of my head what exactly Jones said about the dream.

As for the other scene (warning: may be spoilers ahead), its significance is easier to understand in the book. Jones's uncle, like his father, was a sheriff; the uncle was wounded in the line of duty whereas the father was killed. Jones's character, like many people, tends to paint a rosier picture of the past than is accurate, and compares himself unfavorably to his heroes of that time. So yes, the uncle is saying that violent killers like Chigurh have always existed, and that Jones is not an inferior man for not catching him or dying trying. Jones's character spends the whole movie bemoaning the sorry state the world has come to be in, but the uncle basically tells him that people tend to compare the present unfavorably to the past, when in reality things are how they always have been, and people are people.

Also, there's a subplot in the book that's significant to this scene, and the sheriff's character as a whole, involving a commendation the sheriff won in Vietnam. I won't spoil it in case anyone intends to read the book, but it makes that scene much more significant.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:36 AM   #24
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Also, out of curiosity, how do you think you would've liked this movie if you'd never seen Fargo?
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:13 PM   #25
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That's a good question. Probably better than I did, because the conversations between the "sophisticated" and the local yokels would have been novel.

Why was the automobile accident towards the end of the movie there? To show that, in the end, Bardem was really no different than Brolin?

BTW, thanks for all your help in this thread.
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