wow, i cant believe shannon is only 42. he looks like aged-well-59 in nocturnal animals.

time flies

lol

Ahahahaha you like post reported me? Awesome.

Theres a good chance stealing movies makes the studios money. Ridiculous stance. They aren't posting links lol at reporting anyone. I like to smoke weed. Please report me to the police.

Check out this piece written by producer Keith Calder. If you want to confirm how pirating helps him, I'm sure he'd love to hear from you.

http://keithcalder.com/post/14975962...west-on-piracy

Contact the London School of Economics, I'm sure they'll happily ignore you.

Point is, there are far too many variables that indirectly affect the economic impact, and that's why even reputable sources diverge a lot on this topic.

Also, that link was written by a movie producer. I don't think the LSE has much of a stake in the industry.

Wow that article is bad. He compares pirating a movie to Apple just giving people free iPhones every year, lol.

It's also devoid of a single stat.

I knew I shouldn't have clicked

IP is theft, you can't own an idea

I urge you guys to pay to watch a movie, and I'm the bad guy. Makes a lot of sense.

I'm not sure I get all the hate for thecroshow. The article makes a valid point. There is only a subtle difference between property and intellectual property. By pirating (and I am not completely guilt free mind you), you are stealing the intellectual property. Is it as bad as going into apple and stealing an iphone (or to make a better monetary comparison, a 15 dollar iphone cover)? I'm not sure. I think the answer is no, but I could be convinced otherwise. The article wasn't trying to throw statistics at you, it was trying to appeal to your emotions. If it failed to do that for you, then fine, but just because there aren't stats doesn't mean the article doesn't make a valid point.

Can you mention what paper (or papers) written by someone in the LSE are you referencing?

it's a bit irrelevant if they are better off

likely just rationalizing

No. That would be fine. You are reporting people and **** for hinting at it and generally being annoying. You are like the religious nutter giving off about all the people on a message board admitting doing drugs and threatening to go to the police. Of course you are going to get a backlash.

Fwiw the amount of movies people pay to go and see is generally static so when they pirate a movie the studios lose nothing. They also get indirect gains from word of mouth etc.

Also from anecdotal experience, even people that work in IP and the movie business pirate like crazy.

Pirating is not the same as stealing because nothing is lost by the owner (except potential earnings, which is dubious in most cases). It is massively different to stealing an iPhone. Some things have made profit by being pirated and the creators essentially admitted this. One example is game of thrones. Essentially every person who pirated the product made the studio money indirectly.

Hacksaw Ridge

Let's be clear, the story of Desmond Doss is remarkable and is one that deserves telling.

This movie is competently told and technically great, with wonderful performances.

But it's also completely devoid of suspense or surprises. It's old fashioned, and I suppose, that's okay, since I really can't see another way to tell this story.

However, the movie is chock full of Mel Gibson's obsession with body mortification. Limbs are blown off, entrails explode out of bodies, heads explode in a bloody mist, bodies burn and blacken...

I understand that showing the violence is necessary to some, in order to fully show the obscenity of war. But there's a line, you know? I'm not sure I know where that line is, but I am sure that Gibson crossed it.

Desmond Doss should not be forgotten...unfortunately, this movie will not be remembered.

I am not anti IP whatsoever fwiw and I am not arguing it is ok to pirate. I am anti people being sanctimonious about it.

I dunno, maybe I'm old fashioned. But I just ask myself "is it mine?". If the answer is no I ask, "did the person who owns it intend for me to have it?" If that's a no then I leave it alone.

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Hidden Figures

A feelgood movie that's an inspiration, an entertainment and quite charming - and weaves its themes of segregation and indeed diversity very lightly but not to completely neuter them - a very suitable movie for children old enough to start becoming politically and culturally aware. It falls down in the brevity it must necessarily give to the three main characters' back stories, but really motors when it centres on what they are attempting to do at Nasa. The three female leads are good to terrific when they get their moments though.

And Costner is terrific too. He's still got it.

7/10

I pirate like ****ing crazy but I also buy more blu rays than anyone I know (I love the special features).

alot of times I'll watch a movie using kodi that I own cuz I'm too lazy to get up and sort thru my hundreds of blu rays n find what I want to watch.

other times I'll use kodi to rewatch a film I saw in the theater before it's released on blu ray.

and the few times I actually pirate a film I've never seen before I frequently end up buying it on blu ray for the special features (the special features was the greatest idea the industry has had in my lifetime).

I have no idea how it affects the industry overall (I do know they're still paying tom cruise and michael bay billions of dollars to make movies so they can't be hurting too much) but I know for myself if anything im spending more money on Hollywood than before I got the kodi.

the real ppl that are getting ****ed are cable n sat companies and nothing makes me happier.

I hate directv n att with every fiber of my being n as soon as we figure out a good reliable way to get all our sports live in HD I'll never give those ****s another dollar.

oh godamn it all to hell I'll still have to pay them for my ****ing cell phone. ajabwgahabanabsgsgwbsjajsgwhanansjzhshaoqkaha.

The studios are 100% solely responsible for piracy. If they were not so nut low terrible at providing thier product at a fair price in an easily accessible manner, piracy would be far lower. Instead they go out of thier way to burdeon thier product with awful DRM which makes it unusable.

I can't even get half thier **** because I don't live in the US.

Thier business model is broken, period.

CroShow should just go back to telling us how to watch movies. Oh wait...

This whole piracy discussion is a terrible derail in a very good thread.

Maybe forget about the piracy discussions and Talk About What Movies You've Seen Lately instead.

Nocturnal Animals

One of the better films I've see from last year...thought Adams, Jake, and Shannon were excellent. It's a nasty movie about betrayal and love lost...the story-within-a-story is an obvious metaphor for the central characters' relationship....and it's a powerful one.

Nocturnal Animals was one of the most entertaining movies I saw this year. Great acting by Shannon, Gyllenhaal, and Taylor-Johnson. Abduction scene was really suspenseful and we'll done. Final scene was great. Also, I can watch Amy Adams read a book all day. So sexy.