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Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3 Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

02-03-2017 , 02:22 AM
Keeed,

I'm not so convinced of your Boston hating if you like Marky Mark so much.
02-03-2017 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Snoop Todd
Because people have different opinions?

I'm curious because I find them pretty helpful generally. Not a substitute for a review, but useful as a jump-off point.
I like them. I find it interesting to look at Rotten Tomato's critic's ratings vs. the movie-goers ratings, and then speculating what the spreads mean.
02-03-2017 , 04:46 AM
Thought Rogue One was pretty thoroughly mediocre. I cared a little bit at points towards the end when we were supposed to, but for the most part IDGAF. A couple of good characters (robot, blind man), but it's an easy thumbs down from me.

The beginning was extra bad, hopping from planet to planet with new characters and title cards every 45 seconds, not having a clue what was going on or caring about anybody. This reminds me of a Seinfeld bit. Why do I care about these people or this story? "Because it's a Star Wars movie", I imagine the response from the team would be.

I'm not the type who cares if I care about characters - but the movie had nothing else going for it (except some underexplored scenery) so it needed that.
02-03-2017 , 06:03 AM
I thought it was as good as the force awakens.
02-03-2017 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Snoop Todd
Because people have different opinions?

I'm curious because I find them pretty helpful generally. Not a substitute for a review, but useful as a jump-off point.
Because they're completely hollow and meaningless. People freak out at scores. Look at the responses to that dude's low score of great movies. Nobody commented on any of the points he made in the reviews. I refuse to read them because the rating means jack ****. It makes me think he has garbage taste in movies, but that's not fair because I haven't read his reviews.
02-03-2017 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rbenuck4
Ghostbusters (2016)

This movie embraces mediocrity like a warm blanket. Everything about this movie is luke warm, including the unnecessary reboot, the story, the characters, and the cheesy special effects.

They put together a bunch of really talented actors, but the two main stars, Kristen Wiig and Melissa Mccarthy, aren't really given anything to sink their teeth into. They play a pair of scientists who published a book years ago about ghosts, but then went their seperate ways, with Wiig trying to be a legit acadmic, and Mccarthy still trying to find those pesky ghosts. They hate each other, then they find ghosts and immediately love each other again. Not a whole lot of character development there

Fortunately, there are a couple of decent roles in the movie mind you. I actually really liked Hemsworth (Thor) as the idiot secretary, and I thought that the best scenes in the whole movie were just him answering the phone. I also really enjoyed Kate McKinnon as McCarthy's sidekick, who plays her role wacky but lovable, and it worked.

Then there are the other characters, and oh boy were there some problems. You have Leslie Jones as token black lady, where even Ernie Hudson was probably cringing at how stereotypical her role was. She's given key lines, such as 'Aw hell no.' You have a villain who is so forgettable that I can't even picture him right now. Andy Garcia plays the mayor and is a complete throwaway. You have cameos by all the original ghostbusters and none of their scenes worked IMO, least of which was Murray as the ghost debunker.

Let me give you a scene vs scene comparison of the original to the new one when the crew first encounters a ghost. In the original, they make contact in the library, and they try talking to it with no success, so after a couple attempts, Dan Aykroyd has the 'brilliant' idea to just charge it, which didn't work exactly. Murray then makes fun of him afterwards for his 'brilliant' plan. In the new one, they try talking to it, and then Wiig gets vomited on with a lot of slime, after which she states the slime went into all orifices. I still laugh thinking about Murray ripping into Aykroyd for charging at the ghost. I doubt anyone will think the vomit gag is funny a year from now.

The special effects are nothing special. The original was groundbreaking in that there were very few if any 'horror comedies.' The special fx were novel and fantastic for the time, leading to some actually intense/funny moments, like the dog chasing Rick Moranis or the final showdown with crossing the streams. This time around, the effects looked like they were out of a television production, and there was no tension when they were battling the ghosts.

Overall this was a waste of talent, and a worse black eye for the Ghostbuster 'franchise' than Ghostbusters 2. Here's hoping McCarthy and Wiig can bounce back and do some funny work, because lord knows they have the talent for it. This just wasn't a good showcase for them.
A review like this is far more useful than a simple 2/5 rating with nothing to back it up.
02-03-2017 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Phat Mack
I like them. I find it interesting to look at Rotten Tomato's critic's ratings vs. the movie-goers ratings, and then speculating what the spreads mean.
A more effective method is to read a group of critics you enjoy. You don't even have to agree with them. Find ones that make good points, support their views and make you see the film in a different light. With a solid core of critics you won't have to guess if you sound trust the user goredsawx69 on his opinion of Patriots Day.
02-03-2017 , 06:23 AM
Pretty stoked for the next couple of weeks. Seeing the following films at my local film fest: Burn Your Maps, Personal Shopper, Free Fire, Burden, Prevenge, Maudie, Theatre of Life, The Girl With All the Gifts (great film), The Salesman, My Life as a Zucchini
02-03-2017 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TheCroShow
A more effective method is to read a group of critics you enjoy. You don't even have to agree with them. Find ones that make good points, support their views and make you see the film in a different light. With a solid core of critics you won't have to guess if you sound trust the user goredsawx69 on his opinion of Patriots Day.
Or you could skip all of that and uh, you know, just go ahead and watch the movie from jump. It will probably take less time than reading all those reviews did and most importantly you'll have the opinion on the movie you should value the highest...Your own.
02-03-2017 , 07:31 AM
B Jones: agree 100%. Something is wrong when the character I feel the most sympathy for is a robot imo.

Cro: I don't know any of those movies
02-03-2017 , 11:54 AM
I liked Manchester by the Sea a lot. Seemed like it avoided a lot of the ways it coulda gone wrong.
02-03-2017 , 12:38 PM
Jack Nicholson's Joker is literally the worst high-profile performance I'm aware of in film.

I saw Batman Forever (in 35mm) to prompt that thought. Film is well worth re/visiting. It's a great time capsule of mid-1990s blockbusters. It's got peak Carrey. Two-Face is unremarkable. Kidman and Kilmer are bad, BUT I think that Kidman at least is aware of this and Schumacher definitely is - they are enjoyably bad. When there is that self-important generic Batman dialogue about heroism and psychology, you can feel them all rolling their eyes, and it's great.

The campier tone is good (haven't seen Returns in decades though), and ultimately this is a better representative of that era of superhero movies than the '89 film, which has some strong elements but gets bogged down in a weird mix of seriousness with an awful Joker who doesn't fit.

Note that I'm not necessarily calling it a great film (it might be), but am saying that it wouldn't be a waste of time to revisit and that it's an excellent piece of schlocky '90s nostalgia. And you get big points for not taking Batman seriously.
02-03-2017 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCroShow
A more effective method is to read a group of critics you enjoy. You don't even have to agree with them. Find ones that make good points, support their views and make you see the film in a different light. With a solid core of critics you won't have to guess if you sound trust the user goredsawx69 on his opinion of Patriots Day.


It really depends what your goal is.

After I've seen a movie I like to read lots about it, but if I haven't yet seen a movie I'd like to go in knowing very little about it so I don't have any preconceived notions.

When I'm trying to pick out movies, I find that ratings (especially aggregates) convey meaningful info without any spoilers. I've certainly been led astray this way, but combine it with what you've heard from your friends / this thread and I've got enough info to decide whether I want to watch something.
02-03-2017 , 02:19 PM
Thanks to whoever recommended ARQ as a time loop movie. Exactly what I was looking for. The two lead actors were pretty terrible but the concept and execution was great. Didn't realize it was a Netflix movie. Watched it on groundhog day, obv.
02-03-2017 , 03:19 PM
I pretty much never look at reviews or ratings before I see a film.
the only exposure I get to film talk before a film is this thread.

like snoop tho, once I see a film I like I read quite a bit about it.
02-03-2017 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HH
Manchester by the Sea - 6/10



Bored me to tears.
I was very disappointed in this one. I didn't feel any sort of connection with the characters and the only great scene was when Lee was talking to his ex wife on the street. 6/10 seems about right.
02-03-2017 , 06:00 PM
Watched Truman Show for the first time since it was in theaters in 1998. I thought it was fantastic. It has good humor and it's great for a rewatch.

I read on it and noticed the writer is Andrew Nichol, the writer of one of my favorite movies, Gattaca. He hasn't written much sci fi since (with the exception of Sim0ne, which I don't remember being good), but the other movie I've seen from him Lord of War is quite good. Maybe I should check out all of his movies.
02-03-2017 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
I pretty much never look at reviews or ratings before I see a film.
the only exposure I get to film talk before a film is this thread.

like snoop tho, once I see a film I like I read quite a bit about it.
I avoid reviews prior to seeing the film as well. If I'm sold on the trailer, talent involved or a recommendation from someone I trust, I'll check it out.
02-03-2017 , 07:12 PM
IMDB is shutting down their message boards. This sucks that's where I would always go to get my questions answered.
02-03-2017 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
Jack Nicholson's Joker is literally the worst high-profile performance I'm aware of in film.

I saw Batman Forever (in 35mm) to prompt that thought. Film is well worth re/visiting. It's a great time capsule of mid-1990s blockbusters. It's got peak Carrey. Two-Face is unremarkable. Kidman and Kilmer are bad, BUT I think that Kidman at least is aware of this and Schumacher definitely is - they are enjoyably bad. When there is that self-important generic Batman dialogue about heroism and psychology, you can feel them all rolling their eyes, and it's great.

The campier tone is good (haven't seen Returns in decades though), and ultimately this is a better representative of that era of superhero movies than the '89 film, which has some strong elements but gets bogged down in a weird mix of seriousness with an awful Joker who doesn't fit.

Note that I'm not necessarily calling it a great film (it might be), but am saying that it wouldn't be a waste of time to revisit and that it's an excellent piece of schlocky '90s nostalgia. And you get big points for not taking Batman seriously.

You don't think Arnold's Mr Freeze is worse?
02-03-2017 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tabbaker
IMDB is shutting down their message boards. This sucks that's where I would always go to get my questions answered.


not shocking with the volume of idiots who post nonstop garbage there. same thing happened with ESPN. too bad because there some legit good posters and discussions in a sea of crap.
02-03-2017 , 10:56 PM
Y'all are crazy, Manchester had a bunch of great scenes. Some were hilarious, in a dry way.
02-04-2017 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
You don't think Arnold's Mr Freeze is worse?
I haven't seen it. Kidman and Kilmer in Batman Forever may be worse performances on some absolute scale, but it serves the movie well and may be completely intentional. Maybe I should say "bad performance that has the biggest negative effect on a movie". Easily '89 Joker.
02-04-2017 , 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
Y'all are crazy, Manchester had a bunch of great scenes. Some were hilarious, in a dry way.
I didn't really connect with the film but I could appreciate the craft and arguably the best script of the year. Really weird because I'm usually a sucker for a film like this. I saw You Can Count On Me and loved that film.
02-04-2017 , 06:08 AM
Machine Gun Preacher http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1586752/
Pretty good action movie, based on the true story of Sam Childers, a reformed drug addict who travels to Sudan and starts an orphanage for child soldiers rescued from the civil war.

      
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