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12-22-2016 , 11:41 PM
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Usually the opposite is true. They normally want a a cashier handling money, rather than a dealer. One exception might be if they use different checks for poker than the other games.
Wtf are you talking about.... this is absolutely true.
Your confusion is based on the fact you think we're talking about poker... we are not.

Next time you are in vegas, go to the cage and ask them for a stack of black... they will tell you to take your 2k and go buy them from the dealer.
12-23-2016 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight
Rogue One - 6/10

But it’s the who of the story where things fall apart.

Aside from the heroine Jyn (Jones) and Alan Tudyk’s droid K-2SO with his often hilarious deadpan dialog, I’d wager that most filmgoers won’t remember the names of the rest of the heroes. I couldn’t. There’s a male protagonist played by Diego Luna and a pilot played, questionably, by Riz Ahmed. There’s a blind guy and his friend – and they have some cool moments, but… who are they again?
Your whole treatise is flawed if this is your main criticism. What are the names of the Magnificent Seven? How about the Dirty Dozen? no? The Great Escape?? Oh yeah, there is the blind guy....whatshisname....
12-23-2016 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
Your whole treatise is flawed if this is your main criticism. What are the names of the Magnificent Seven? How about the Dirty Dozen? no? The Great Escape?? Oh yeah, there is the blind guy....whatshisname....
The point is that the characters aren't memorable as they're not well developed and don't have much personality.
12-23-2016 , 07:28 AM
No, his specific criticism was:

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most filmgoers won’t remember the names of the rest of the heroes
12-23-2016 , 09:31 AM
That just seems to be an introduction to the point of the rest of the paragraph. It is clearly not the entirety of the argument.


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12-23-2016 , 09:44 AM
I didnt say it was the entirety of the argument, i said it was the main criticism.
12-23-2016 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
I didnt say it was the entirety of the argument, i said it was the main criticism.
I think you are nit picking a bit, his point is valid. The characters aren't as memorable as the ones in TFA. Let's look at the two characters who defected from the Empire from these movies. In TFA, it is a guy who got smeared with his buddy's blood during a massacre of innocents that makes him think twice about his role with the Empire. In Rogue One, we don't really get any information about why that pilot defected, he just did. Are you thinking that it's not a fair comparison as Finn was a main character from TFA and Ahmed was only a side character in Rogue One?

Ok, then let's look at the Han Solo replacements from those two movies. In TFA, it is Oscar Isaac, with a bunch of personality, the cool leather jacket, the escape with Finn, the witty dialogue. It just oozes with "coolness." In Rogue One, it is Diego Luna, who is much more subdued, and the love story with Felicity Jones was just not quite believable as I didn't really buy their chemistry on screen.

With the exception of Finn, I can't remember any of the other character's names (not even the bad guy that Adam Driver played), but I feel like I know the characters from TFA way better than the characters from the movie I just saw 3 days ago. Rogue One was more about shoehorning the plot of A New Hope into this movie. TFA was about establishing a new batch of Star Wars characters.
12-23-2016 , 02:42 PM
Koyaanisqatsi Mesmerizing and beautiful film capturing images of modern civilization.

There is no narration, it is simply images. Images of landscapes, cities, people set to a hypnotic musical score. The images of cities and traffic are just as wonderful as those of desert landscapes and clouds.

As usual, I read up on this after I watched it. I sort of got the sense that the filmmaker might have intended to illustrate the negative effects of man and technology on the planet, even though I considered those images just as striking as those without evidence of mankind. But that doesn't seem the case.

According to wiki
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Reggio stated that the Qatsi films are intended to simply create an experience and that "it is up [to] the viewer to take for himself/herself what it is that [the film] means." He also said that "these films have never been about the effect of technology, of industry on people. It's been that everyone: politics, education, things of the financial structure, the nation state structure, language, the culture, religion, all of that exists within the host of technology. So it's not the effect of, it's that everything exists within [technology]. It's not that we use technology, we live technology. Technology has become as ubiquitous as the air we breathe...
And that message came through for me. It really is a stunning film and I highly recommend it.
12-23-2016 , 03:56 PM
The Autopsy of Jane Doe : Thought it was a cool little indie horror flick.

Good actors and interesting spin on genre
12-23-2016 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rbenuck4
I think you are nit picking a bit, his point is valid. The characters aren't as memorable as the ones in TFA. Let's look at the two characters who defected from the Empire from these movies. In TFA, it is a guy who got smeared with his buddy's blood during a massacre of innocents that makes him think twice about his role with the Empire. In Rogue One, we don't really get any information about why that pilot defected, he just did. Are you thinking that it's not a fair comparison as Finn was a main character from TFA and Ahmed was only a side character in Rogue One?

Ok, then let's look at the Han Solo replacements from those two movies. In TFA, it is Oscar Isaac, with a bunch of personality, the cool leather jacket, the escape with Finn, the witty dialogue. It just oozes with "coolness." In Rogue One, it is Diego Luna, who is much more subdued, and the love story with Felicity Jones was just not quite believable as I didn't really buy their chemistry on screen.

With the exception of Finn, I can't remember any of the other character's names (not even the bad guy that Adam Driver played), but I feel like I know the characters from TFA way better than the characters from the movie I just saw 3 days ago. Rogue One was more about shoehorning the plot of A New Hope into this movie. TFA was about establishing a new batch of Star Wars characters.
Yes, I think Finn is a GREAT character. And Poe Dameron left a bigger mark in a third of the screen time as.... who? Cassius? I only know because I looked it up.
12-23-2016 , 06:28 PM
Pressure http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3029476/

Tense, claustrophobic drama about four men who are trapped in a diving bell
600ft below the surface of the Indian Ocean.
Stumbled across this on Netflix, didn't expect much but was pleasantly surprised, it's a great little movie.
12-23-2016 , 06:37 PM
Cool, I will check it out, i like those type of movies. I just watched one recently, I can't recall the name about a crew being trapped in a capsized boat at sea for a couple months.
12-23-2016 , 06:44 PM
Anyone see Passengers? I think I'm locked in to seeing it so there's probably no helping me. At least having high expectations disappointed won't be a problem.
12-23-2016 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Anyone see Passengers? I think I'm locked in to seeing it so there's probably no helping me. At least having high expectations disappointed won't be a problem.
I haven't heard a positive thing about it. Haven't seen it yet, but enough of my friends have said bad things about it. Sounds like the trailers are grossly misleading.
12-23-2016 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Anyone see Passengers? I think I'm locked in to seeing it so there's probably no helping me. At least having high expectations disappointed won't be a problem.
Did not see it, but it's one of those movies where after seeing the trailer, you know it's going to be a turkey.

Love J-Law and she looks stunning in it at least. Pratt's status as an A-list leading man is a complete mystery to me.
12-23-2016 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf
The Autopsy of Jane Doe : Thought it was a cool little indie horror flick.

Good actors and interesting spin on genre
for reference...it is actually much more subtle and slow compared to trailers. I hate horror usually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcqfNmtsn80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtTAhXuiRTc
12-23-2016 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Did not see it, but it's one of those movies where after seeing the trailer, you know it's going to be a turkey.

Love J-Law and she looks stunning in it at least. Pratt's status as an A-list leading man is a complete mystery to me.
sad, it was a very good script that floated around hollywood for years.
12-23-2016 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf
sad, it was a very good script that floated around hollywood for years.
It wasn't very good. This could be taken as a spoiler, but it really isn't - but I'll spoiler anyway - but it's not a spoiler

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I can see how it might have been a good script and someone said "we're not spending this much money on that story" and they had to rewrite it.
12-23-2016 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Koyaanisqatsi Mesmerizing and beautiful film capturing images of modern civilization.

There is no narration, it is simply images. Images of landscapes, cities, people set to a hypnotic musical score. The images of cities and traffic are just as wonderful as those of desert landscapes and clouds.

As usual, I read up on this after I watched it. I sort of got the sense that the filmmaker might have intended to illustrate the negative effects of man and technology on the planet, even though I considered those images just as striking as those without evidence of mankind. But that doesn't seem the case.

According to wiki

And that message came through for me. It really is a stunning film and I highly recommend it.
I love this one. Saw it in the theater when it first came out. Great score by Philip Glass.
12-23-2016 , 11:46 PM
I saw koyaanisqatsi performed live at ucla by phillip glass and ensemble with the movie playng in the background.

An amazing experience.

Im really into avant-garde music so this was a real pleasure.
12-24-2016 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight
A well written review
12-24-2016 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rbenuck4
I think you are nit picking a bit, his point is valid. The characters aren't as memorable as the ones in TFA.
You're really missing the point. TFA was setting the scene for 2 further films, so it was just really important we knew and liked these characters.

Rogue one is a stand-alone Seven Samurai-style film, where we know at least some of the heroes are toast before we go into the theatre.

So, a recent example - 13 Assassins - Great film, 96% on RT but really who knew or cared what any of the characters names were?

Not being able to remember the names of the characters in this type of film is not a valid criticism.
12-24-2016 , 10:45 AM
You're oddly fixated on the names point, which is simply illustrative of a central problem - the lack of memorable characters. Given how the plot developed, this movie actually needed to create an emotional connection to the characters even more than TFA.
12-24-2016 , 02:50 PM
Shinzaemon
drunk samurai
bastard samurai
random weapons dude
ronin samurai
shinzae's nephew


Almost got half their names at least.

      
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