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02-21-2015 , 01:54 AM
Finally saw Nightcrawler. It was good, I enjoyed it...but I don't think it will stay with me very long
02-21-2015 , 11:25 AM
Whiplash

This is one hell of a ride. This movie is about being a good drummer, and yet felt like an action thriller the whole time. I was on the edge of my seat during most of the music sequences. J.K Simmons kills it as the band leader. Most of the time he's like the drill sergeant from Full Metal Jacket but there are a few scenes where you get a bit more of what he's about....and then they turn that around so that you don't know what to actually believe about the guy. It's just an incredible performance. Miles Teller was wonderful as well, as the student who just desperately wants this man's approval and will stop at nothing to become the best.

The direction is fast paced, with quick cuts during the music sequences where you see the blood sweat and tears all over the equipment, and feel the intensity of how hard these guys work to make the music sound effortless. If I ever hear one of those 2 main songs in real life (Whiplash or Caravan), I don't think I'll enjoy it as much as feel intense anxiety.

I loved this movie from the first scene to the crescendo of its climax (pun intended), and if you haven't seen it yet, you are missing out.
02-21-2015 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
Not that it will change anything to Lolita (for the record, I liked it, but definitely not my favorite by Kubrick), he originally tried to do an adaptation of Tropic of Cancer by Henry Miller. I guess Kubrick had his mind set on attacking directly censorship in cinema perhaps... That said, Miller was too old, less defiant and since Henry and already in court defending his controversial book, thus turning down Kubrick's offer. Enter plan B and Lolita (where this book was encountering a similar fate to Mille's novel).

I would of loved to see how Kubrick would of adapted Tropic of Cancer on the big screen... oh well.
Interesting, didn't know that. FTR I don't think Lolita is really a bad movie. A bit of a bore maybe, but I'm grading it on a very steep curve.

A related sidenote: I finally caved on a Kubrick bluray box-set (the newly released Masterpiece Collection) earlier this week and it arrived yesterday. I have to say the Stanley Kubrick Remembered documentary that was included was very good and informative and gave great insight into certain areas of his life that I'd never seen/heard about before (the bits of his estate that you see are really magnificent). I'd rate it above A Life in Pictures. The Stanley Kubrick In Focus thing (where other directors discuss his influence) was also good, albeit rather slight. William Friedkin in particular was hilariously lavish in his praise at certain moments. And I almost flipped off my TV when Nolan came on and said the thing that always amazes him about SK's movie is his faith in the audience. Of course.
02-21-2015 , 02:26 PM
Kingsman: The Secret Service

Borderline offensively stupid. About 30 min too long with some (gender) politics, and the meta angle they try for never really takes off. Fun, but not enough to get away with that stuff.
02-21-2015 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pissychips
Re-watched No Country For Old Men after seeing it years ago. I think Chigurh is one of the greatest characters of all time. A lot of people I know seem to hate the film for some reason, I can't understand why?
I liked that movie, but I get why some people don't like it. It's got a really bleak tone, there's no closure, some of the things that make McCarthy great just don't translate well into film. If you walked in expecting a typical action/crime thriller, you'll be disappointed.

You might give The Counselor a watch; it's got a similar style.
02-21-2015 , 06:38 PM
Hi Loungers, I'm running an Academy Awards Prediction Sheep and thought participants in this particular thread might be interested in playing. All you need to do is PM me a list with your answers. Reveal will take place during the broadcast tomorrow night. Thanks for playing!
02-21-2015 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pissychips
Re-watched No Country For Old Men after seeing it years ago. I think Chigurh is one of the greatest characters of all time. A lot of people I know seem to hate the film for some reason, I can't understand why?

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The only place I feel it could be improved is if they showed how Llewellyn got killed. I know the Mexican guys tracked him down through his wife and mother in law and they outnumbered him. But throughout the movie he displays high level tactical thinking while the Mexicans show the opposite and are constantly outwitted. It's hard to believe Llewellyn would not have escaped if he saw them coming or would have walked into a trap.
Spoiler:
my interpretation was that he got sloppy n distracted by that girl at the motel and was drinking beer and socializing. up to that point his entire focus n energy was on evading his pursuers. the moment he let his guard down he was got.
02-21-2015 , 08:13 PM
Im unsure about what to watch tonight, is it gonna be Gone Girl or Whiplash? What yous recommend?
02-21-2015 , 08:37 PM
Whiplash
02-21-2015 , 08:39 PM
No Country for Old Men
02-21-2015 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ramabranch
Watched Birdman last night, what a great movie!

Im not a theatre fan myself but I felt very close to the genre with this movie. The long take shot made the film vertiginous and intense and closer to the theatre tempo the film tries to depict. The characters were amazing, especially Norton's one and of course, the turbulent Birdman.

Even though I havent seen all the nominees for the Academy Awards (and probably wont since not all of them catch my eye) I can see this getting best directing and probably best editing.

I read on IMDb trivia section about this movie that Alejandro G. Iñarritu sent a picture to the main cast members before shooting the film of Philippe Petit walking on the thightrope between WTC and said: "This is what we doing, if we fall, we fall": it was one inch away from disaster but ended up being a true masterpiece!
Mike Nichols told him precisely that he was walking into a disaster.

Birdman wasn't even nominated for editing and lost the EDDIE. Probably because the way it was shot did most of the editor's job (no net).

Before the Directors Guild Awards, Linklater and Boyhood were slight favorites for BP and BD. It's now been reversed in most books I checked.

Birdman's a heavy favorite for cinematography, imo. Which would make it the fifth time someone has been awarded* BC in back to back years.
02-21-2015 , 09:40 PM
Whiplash ftw.. ****ing great movie
02-22-2015 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
Spoiler:
my interpretation was that he got sloppy n distracted by that girl at the motel and was drinking beer and socializing. up to that point his entire focus n energy was on evading his pursuers. the moment he let his guard down he was got.
Spoiler:
I thought that it was because he couldn't let go of his wife and mother. His mother ends up giving away his location on accident. All of the major players in this movie have no family of any sort, or at least they aren't mentioned. Chigurh takes advantage of this weakness of Llewyn during their phone conversation, saying that he will kill Llewyn's wife if Llewyn doesn't give himself up, and the Mexican cartel takes advantage of this weakness also. Without his family, Llewyn would probably still be on the run and much more likely to get away.


I haven't read NCFOM but read a synopsis and it seems like Carson Welles is expanded on a bit. Not sure if it was this thread or the last one, but I asked about a line which always confused me in the movie where Carson and the boss have a conversation about how many stories the building they are in is. It's a very strange and seemingly out of place conversation. Apparently in the book it's expanded on that the elevator does not normally go to the boss's level, and it's impossible to get to that floor without a special code or something. This also explains the scene right before Chigurh kills the boss he takes the stairwell and blows the lock off the door. I guess it's just a bit of an easter egg for book readers.

I've tried to read the book but wtf at the lack of quotation marks.
02-22-2015 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pissychips
Re-watched No Country For Old Men after seeing it years ago. I think Chigurh is one of the greatest characters of all time. A lot of people I know seem to hate the film for some reason, I can't understand why?

Spoiler:
The only place I feel it could be improved is if they showed how Llewellyn got killed. I know the Mexican guys tracked him down through his wife and mother in law and they outnumbered him. But throughout the movie he displays high level tactical thinking while the Mexicans show the opposite and are constantly outwitted. It's hard to believe Llewellyn would not have escaped if he saw them coming or would have walked into a trap.
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I read The Road and saw the movie and the theme (but not the details) is a bit like that. The guy can be wise as hell in the ways of the world, but basically if he doesn't accept the light of Jesus Christ as his savior, he can't enter the kingdom of heaven. Or something like that. NCFOM is about morality and moral relativism. Without G_d, morality is arbitrary and can be just as easily evil as good. Anton is absolutely devoted to his morality, but absolutely devoid of faith. Llewellyn may be a good man, but despite that is lost and doomed without faith. Like the father from The Road, he can be prepared and skilled as heck, but the world is chaotic and evil and man alone is no match. Tom Bell is, well, McCarthy looking at the wreckage of modern society. Or something like that.

I think McCarthy tells a great story and has a great imagination, but I'm not a big fan of (how I interpret anyway) his world view. He basically has contempt for human nature imo.
02-22-2015 , 03:34 AM
haha cormack doesn't use much punctuation ever.
but he's prolly the greatest living American author so you should give him another chance.
02-22-2015 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
haha cormack doesn't use much punctuation ever.
but he's prolly the greatest living American author so you should give him another chance.
I don't mean he's a bad writer. Being a good writer hardly means he's right. He gets on my nerves though.

I'm not in a great position to judge who is the greatest living American author, but I think it's more like maybe he's a very good writer and right up your alley. I mean, Thomas Pynchon is a great writer, but quite different. I enjoyed Toni Morrison back when I had to read her in college. Very good writer, but different subject matter/audience.
02-22-2015 , 03:55 AM
The Road was a freakin' page turner and definitely left an impression, so there's that. I just don't like the message. You can analyze Star Wars almost the same way, though I don't think it's serious in SW, so it doesn't bug me.
02-22-2015 , 05:05 AM
ya I can def understand how he could rub ppl the wrong way and I wasn't saying he was good because he doesn't use punctuation etc just that if that was only thing that turned you off you should give it another go.
he's def right up my alley, only book I like better than ones from him is the count of monte cristo unabridged, which is a perfect book imo.
02-22-2015 , 10:57 AM
The great IBeDrummin is holding a prediction sheep for tonight's Academy Awards for those interested.
02-22-2015 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ramabranch
Im unsure about what to watch tonight, is it gonna be Gone Girl or Whiplash? What yous recommend?
Whiplash
02-22-2015 , 03:11 PM
Only Lovers Left Alive 2013

★★★★½

A fine piece of art, which makes up for a lack of narrative by giving us rich characters and themes. This has several themes, but the most obvious one is how art can sustain the spirit, when all else has gone. Hiddleston and Swinton are mesmeric and superb as the lovers who love down through the centuries, who are supported by both their memories (or nostalgia at least) and by what they do in the here and now.

Most intriguing is the back-story they hint at... for example all the vampires seem to be English, and they talk about past days when bodies floated in the Thames, yet they take pains to avoid even stopping over at London... Why?

Would definitely like to see more of this world. Clearly more Anne Rice than Twilight, thank goodness.
02-22-2015 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
Spoiler:
my interpretation was that he got sloppy n distracted by that girl at the motel and was drinking beer and socializing. up to that point his entire focus n energy was on evading his pursuers. the moment he let his guard down he was got.
Spoiler:
I thought he turned that girls offer down though. And her mentioning that he was constantly looking out the window and that he'd hid the money in the vent again lead me to believe he was still on guard.

I'd love to have just seen how they got him, not for a big showdown or anything but just because through the whole film he is shown to think very tactically and react quickly even under pressure, like when he stops to take of his boots before jumping in the river as they will weigh him down, then how he empties the bullet from the chamber that would have been wet then reloads to kill the dog etc. I just don't believe he's suddenly get sloppy and get killed by the Mexicans.
02-22-2015 , 03:32 PM
My Oscar guesses:

Picture: Birdman
Director: Linklater
Actor/Actress: Keaton, Moore
Supp Actor/Actress: Simmons, Arquette
Orig/Adapt Screenplay: Boyhood, Imitation Game

Still feel like Birdman/Boyhood split the picture/director oscars, not sure which way tho. Still seems like a close race, and from what I read Grand Budapest has actually got a lot of dark horse potential (ugh).
02-22-2015 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pissychips
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I thought he turned that girls offer down though. And her mentioning that he was constantly looking out the window and that he'd hid the money in the vent again lead me to believe he was still on guard.

I'd love to have just seen how they got him, not for a big showdown or anything but just because through the whole film he is shown to think very tactically and react quickly even under pressure, like when he stops to take of his boots before jumping in the river as they will weigh him down, then how he empties the bullet from the chamber that would have been wet then reloads to kill the dog etc. I just don't believe he's suddenly get sloppy and get killed by the Mexicans.
my post/explanation is shaded by my having read the book.
it goes into alot more detail wrt that whole situation.
02-22-2015 , 04:17 PM
I will get the book read.


Got to watch the latest Hunger Games tonight not particularly looking forward to it.

      
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