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Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3 Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

02-11-2014 , 12:47 PM
You know it's not just accidentally Shakespearean, it's based on Henry IV/V.
02-11-2014 , 02:09 PM
Knocked quite a few movies off the list over the last week:

Upstream Color (9.1/10) - Just like Primer I had to read an explanation after watching it, enjoyed it the 1st time regardless, but loved it the 2nd time around when I understood more about what was really going on

Scarface (8.7/10) - Not sure how I made it this long without seeing it, but it lived up to the hype

The Maltese Falcon (8.6/10) - Having seen very few movies this old I wasn't expecting much, but was pleasantly surprised, it was clever, the acting was great, and it being in black and white didn't bother me one bit

The Dirty Dozen (8.3/10) - Another older movie (1967) that surprised me, pretty sure I would've watched this over and over if I had been around when it 1st came out

Runner Runner (5.7/10) - Lowered expectations probably helped, but from a pure entertainment standpoint I didn't think it was that bad

Closed Circuit (4.1/10) - Some good concepts, but it just didn't feel like much happened, the majority of it was slow and uninteresting
02-11-2014 , 03:56 PM
True Grit 7/10.

I really liked it. It was a good watch. I'm really getting into the old western movies which this is based on.

Would anyone recommend others?

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02-11-2014 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
this. in the book (which was fantastic) the grandpa was a nasty greedy old man who didn't give a **** about his grand kids, and unlike in the movie where grant hates kids from the start he actually likes kids a lot.
also he and Laura Dern character are not romantically involved.
I thought movie was well made, but while I read very little fiction I was a huge sucker for Crichton, his books are awesome.
I love Crichton's books. Unfortunately, Prey was the last book of his I enjoyed. Somewhere around State of Fear I had the complete opposite reaction to his books and could no longer finish them.
02-11-2014 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
I love Crichton's books. Unfortunately, Prey was the last book of his I enjoyed. Somewhere around State of Fear I had the complete opposite reaction to his books and could no longer finish them.
ya i agree his later work after prey was pretty meh.
he also became super anti-environmentalist and started infusing his politics into his books which didn't help.
all his books up till then were great tho.

i couldn't even make it 3 chapters into that pirate book they supposedly published from his "notes".
02-11-2014 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by scottp4braves
Knocked quite a few movies off the list over the last week:

Upstream Color (9.1/10) - Just like Primer I had to read an explanation after watching it, enjoyed it the 1st time regardless, but loved it the 2nd time around when I understood more about what was really going on

Scarface (8.7/10) - Not sure how I made it this long without seeing it, but it lived up to the hype

The Maltese Falcon (8.6/10) - Having seen very few movies this old I wasn't expecting much, but was pleasantly surprised, it was clever, the acting was great, and it being in black and white didn't bother me one bit

The Dirty Dozen (8.3/10) - Another older movie (1967) that surprised me, pretty sure I would've watched this over and over if I had been around when it 1st came out

Runner Runner (5.7/10) - Lowered expectations probably helped, but from a pure entertainment standpoint I didn't think it was that bad

Closed Circuit (4.1/10) - Some good concepts, but it just didn't feel like much happened, the majority of it was slow and uninteresting
you should check out the original scarface, much better than the remake
02-11-2014 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
The effects in JP more than hold up. **** looks real.
Agree, but my point is that a big part of the buzz around JP when it first came out was that the effects were totally groundbreaking at the time. I think younger generations will approach the movie and take all that for granted.
02-11-2014 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
btw how does the book end? same way?
*going deep in my memory banks*

One of the plot points in the book is that the dinos can't survive in the wild without a protein or whatever that the scientists put in their diet, but in the end after **** goes nuts at the park there's a hint that some of the dinos have made it to mainland South America and started eating some grasses that naturally contain the protein.

Crichton wrote at least one sequel to the book, can't remember what happens.
02-11-2014 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex Ingram
you should check out the original scarface, much better than the remake
Saw that recently. Amazed at how much of the iconic stuff in the Pacino version was taken from the original.
02-12-2014 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem
My Own Private Idaho

Had never seen this one but after reading the recent bio on River I am on a bit of a watching spree on his stuff. Watched this on YouTube last night. Fantastic. I didn't know what I was in for at all, and didn't know this was such an artistic/Shakespearean/funny movie. I felt that touch was perfect for the situation and storyline. I'd give it a 4.5/5.

River was such a phenomenal actor. It's all so natural with him.
Yeah, enjoyed it as well. Gus Van Sant is hit or miss for me, but this one was an interesting look outcasts and their inner worlds.
02-12-2014 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by therightdeal
True Grit 7/10.

I really liked it. It was a good watch. I'm really getting into the old western movies which this is based on.

Would anyone recommend others?

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Spagetti Westerns with Clint Eastwood in them: Fistful of Dollars, the Good the Bad and the ugly amongst others.
02-12-2014 , 09:35 AM
maybe the GOAT western ever made:

unforgiven.

10/10

Spoiler:
i love how for the first 90% of the movie he's sober and totally inept. then as soon as they kill morgan freeman, he downs a bottle of whiskey and becomes a total bad ass again.
02-12-2014 , 09:43 AM
its hard not to love that film. every character is well developed even the minor red shirts like the one armed man. history of violence reminded me a lot of unforgiven except theres really only three characters whereas unforgiven has over 10.

incredible how much story and how many stories are told in such a short amount of time.
02-12-2014 , 10:08 AM
Unforgiven is amazing. But as far as my favorite westerns, Blueberry tops the list, followed closely by Dead Man, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, There will be Blood and No Country for Old Men.
02-12-2014 , 10:09 AM
The recent Japanese remake of unforgiving with Ken Watanabe in the Eastwood role is decent.
02-12-2014 , 10:15 AM
was not aware that there was one ill be checking that out thanks
02-12-2014 , 11:51 AM
Survival of the Dead

Maybe the funniest Romero zombie movie. Not sure that's a good thing.

The social commentary is gone. The scares are dead. The best gore is worse than in an average episode of The Walking Dead. This movie is the celluloid version of a zombie mailman chained up at the end of the driveway just going threw the motions of delivering that letter over and over again.

You took some Hatfield & McCoy, sprinkled in some Leprechaun accents, and surrounded it with zombies. Congrats - you just churned out a below average zombie movie effort. It wouldn't be so sad except it's coming from the OG of this whole thing.

PS - Walking Dead also sucks.

4/10
02-12-2014 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by therightdeal
True Grit 7/10.

I really liked it. It was a good watch. I'm really getting into the old western movies which this is based on.

Would anyone recommend others?

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True grit(1969)
The Searchers
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
El Dorado
Rio Lobo
Big Jake
Chisum
The Shootist
02-12-2014 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
Unforgiven is amazing. But as far as my favorite westerns, Blueberry tops the list, followed closely by Dead Man, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, There will be Blood and No Country for Old Men.
don't feel like NCFOM n TWWB are in same genre as unforgiven.
all 3 of them are among my favs fwiw.
02-13-2014 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by therightdeal
True Grit 7/10.

I really liked it. It was a good watch. I'm really getting into the old western movies which this is based on.

Would anyone recommend others?

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Rio Bravo
Once Upon a Time in the West
My Darling Clementine
02-13-2014 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
don't feel like NCFOM n TWWB are in same genre as unforgiven.
all 3 of them are among my favs fwiw.
I don't know. I feel like all 5 movies brought something different to what is the western genre, redefined it in its own way. After all, when people think western movies, they oftentimes picture a spaghetti western, a movie like The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly, or other Sergio Leone movies that implemented the genre and stuck around. But Unforgiven kills the myth of the lonesome hero cowboy and redefines the western genre (or brings it back to its roots).

What is a western movie after all? Originally, IMO, it is the contact with a strange land (conquering the unoccupied western lands) and strange people (natives). So it is the interaction with the other. I feel that There Will be Blood depicts a fascinating unreconciliable relationship in between chasing the riches (Daniel Day Lewis) that drives an oil digger, to the conservative approach of a clergy boy, and ultimately, both of their divergent relationships to the land.

Dead Man has a unique Jim Jarmusch anti-genre feeling to it (like Jarmusch loves to do) by having the native, the other, having studied arts in Europe (haha), the gunslinger, Johnny Depp, be a city boy that instantly becomes a sharp shooter, and in the background, the scorching rifts of Neil Young! Dead Man is, by all means, an anti-western.

Blueberry introduces something unique to the relationship with the other, as the hero gunslinger was brought up by native people (as oppose to having them as the stereotypical enemy), and the final showdown is not done with guns, but through an ayahuasca journey.

As far as No Country for Old Men, I love the ending and the conversation with Tommy Lee Jones and the other fellow - the name escapes me. In this movie, the relationship with the western land has been somewhat transgressed, as if stepping disrespectfully on sacred ground... The old get older, times are changing, and the land has lost its sacredness.

Anyhow, hope this all makes sense, and that my understanding of western movies is not spewy...

Last edited by Dubnjoy000; 02-13-2014 at 01:18 AM.
02-13-2014 , 01:22 AM
ncfom is a neo-western for sure. twbb, not so much.
02-13-2014 , 07:27 AM
If you guys want to see a great western check out The Proposition with Guy Pierce
02-13-2014 , 07:33 AM
^ that movie is mostly torture porn
02-13-2014 , 01:16 PM
We're the Millers

Not hilarious, but funny enough. This movie is like somebody took a cheesy PG family comedy and decided to tweak it enough to get an R rating. Sedekis is funny, but man is he trying really hard to be a Fletch type of one-liner artist. Anniston's body double is also pretty nice to watch strip.

5/10

      
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