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07-27-2018 , 06:29 PM
It’s stock is worth 1c before splits. Movie pass is doa.
07-27-2018 , 07:58 PM
MI: Fallout

Spoiler:


This may be the best action movie ever made. Hard to compare it with Mad Max: Fury Road, as they are so different. But, holy cow! Maybe it's the colons in both titles.

Love the callbacks to previous installments - especially the first one and
Spoiler:
Max!
Vanessa Kirby is a naughty, naughty girl. Henry Cavil plays a good, muscle-bound heel. And I think it's possible that no movie camera loves a face the way it loves Rebecca Ferguson's. In photos, she's merely lovely. But on the big screen - wowza.

Tom Cruise runs, jumps, swims, catapults, falls, drives, punches, limps, crashes and just about kills himself.

There's a sequence in the middle where he's being chased through the streets of Paris while on a motorcycle, and, somehow, director McQuarrie shows us Cruise zipping and skidding through the traffic, driving the bike himself. I'm sure it's a trick of some kind, but damned if I could see it. Maybe they CGI'd his face on the bike rider?

That's the thing with this film - every stunt and action sequence looks like it's in-camera. They look like they're real. Unlike the ridiculous CGI fests of the superhero movies and The Rock films.

There has to be a ton of CGI in this - but it really is seamless.

This is one helluva ride. I hope they make more.
07-27-2018 , 08:26 PM
Cruise is a nutcase. That's him on the motorcycle:



He's even literally flying the helicopter in certain shots at the end for real. He got his pilot's license for it.

And does AN ACTUAL HALO JUMP. For the movie. I mean, wtf?

Last edited by Dominic; 07-27-2018 at 08:41 PM.
07-27-2018 , 09:20 PM
I mean... why wouldn't you do those things.
I can't wait to see this this weekend.
07-27-2018 , 09:23 PM
I've said it before, Tom Cruise is the greatest actor of all time. He's never given a bad performance. He's never made a bad movie. He's only made a handful of movies that were mediocre.
07-27-2018 , 10:00 PM
I think only a few of his movies are watchable, and those are despite him not because of him.
07-27-2018 , 10:11 PM
Tom Cruise is good at certain things. Certainly not the greatest actor of all time.

I'll see this movie when it's free maybe. I don't care how "exciting" the chase scenes are. I'm not watching 100 minutes of chase.
07-27-2018 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
MI: Fallout

Spoiler:
There's a sequence in the middle where he's being chased through the streets of Paris while on a motorcycle, and, somehow, director McQuarrie shows us Cruise zipping and skidding through the traffic, driving the bike himself. I'm sure it's a trick of some kind, but damned if I could see it. Maybe they CGI'd his face on the bike rider?
Reminds me of this

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Another new addition to Jack Reacher is its car chase. In the novels, Reacher is not a good driver, and it’s a testament to Cruise’s ability that he can make his impeccable stunt work look careless to stay true to the character. Filmmakers usually struggle to conceal stunt drivers during a car chase, but McQuarrie’s challenge was the inverse, and the first rule of this scene was to show that Cruise was in the driver’s seat in every shot. Cruise drives for the entire the chase, a feat not even Steve McQueen could pull off in Bullitt. (David Oyelowo and Jai Courtney do some of their own driving, too.) They reinforced the hell out of the crash car, put Cruise in a five-point harness, and only three of nine Chevelles survived. The chase’s very real perilousness is palpable in the scene, and its second rule was, “If the camera’s not in danger, the shot’s not worth doing.”
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...-as-the-combat
07-27-2018 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I think only a few of his movies are watchable, and those are despite him not because of him.
curious which few of these movies you you think are just barely watchable:

MI 1-6
Edge of Tomorrow
Oblivion
Jack Reacher
War of the Worlds
Collateral
Last Samurai
Minority Report
Vanilla Sky
Magnolia
Eyes Wide Shut
Jerry Maguire
Interview with a Vampire
The Firm
A Few Good Men
Far and Away (miss for me)
Days of Thunder
Born on the Fourth of July
Rain Man
Cocktail
The Color of Money
Top Gun
Legend
All the Right Moves (excellent)
Risky Business
The Outsiders
Taps

For those folks saying "he's just playing Tom Cruise" look at Tropic Thunder, Magnolia, Born on the Fourth of July, Collateral.

And honestly I've never understood this criticism. Is the character he's playing authentic in the movie? Are his reactions genuine and believable in the context and opposite the other characters? If that's believable and compelling who cares if he seems like "Tom Cruise"?
07-27-2018 , 10:54 PM
It's cool to be a good movie star but there's no way you're THE GREATEST ACTOR OF ALL TIME if you can only play one or two things.

The bit in Tropic Thunder was good though and a little different.

Forgetting the super acclaimed actors always mentioned in best actor ever discussions he's not as good as Robin Williams or Gary Oldman.
07-27-2018 , 10:57 PM
Is Patrick Steward not a good actor because he seems like Patrick Steward in every single role? Like the guy from X Men seems basically the same as Captain Picard, bad actor obviously, booooooooooooooooooo
07-27-2018 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Is Patrick Steward not a good actor because he seems like Patrick Steward in every single role? Like the guy from X Men seems basically the same as Captain Picard, bad actor obviously, booooooooooooooooooo
I didn't say Cruise is a bad actor or even not a good actor. You said he is the greatest actor of all time.
07-27-2018 , 10:59 PM
But hey, fine, if you don't think that Tom Cruise is a terrific actor, whatever, I won't argue. On matters of taste there can be no argument. I just want to know which few of those movies I listed are barely watchable.
07-27-2018 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I didn't say Cruise is a bad actor or even not a good actor. You said he is the greatest actor of all time.
That is fair. And I was perhaps being a bit hyperbolic as I don't know anything about acting, the history of acting, and have no method of ranking actors other than "I liked that movie, probably because the guy talking was strong on acting!"

But what I can tell you is that I've never not believed a line that Tom Cruise said in a movie. And I've liked basically every Tom Cruise movie I've been to. And what else is acting but that?
07-27-2018 , 11:06 PM
He has a good record. Cocktail sucked. I've seen a couple MI movies and totally meh. Days of Thunder was bad too. I doubt I would have liked Top Gun if I weren't 18 and didn't like it that much even then. I haven't seen a few. But he has a solid batting average. I don't think any of his movies make my top 25 or maybe even 50 though.
07-27-2018 , 11:08 PM
Sorry to Bother You

I really hated this movie. It’s poliitcs are right up my ally but it has the subtly of a sledge hammer to the face. I didn’t find it funny at all.

Grade: D
07-27-2018 , 11:09 PM
You are taking umbrage with microbet because of something someone else said? I mean, that other guy probably just doesn't go for action movies, the end.
07-27-2018 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
That is fair. And I was perhaps being a bit hyperbolic as I don't know anything about acting, the history of acting, and have no method of ranking actors other than "I liked that movie, probably because the guy talking was strong on acting!"

But what I can tell you is that I've never not believed a line that Tom Cruise said in a movie. And I've liked basically every Tom Cruise movie I've been to. And what else is acting but that?
As Clint Eastwood (probably my favorite though hardly the greatest actor) said in Magnum Force, A man's got to know his limitations. Cruise plays characters he can play. I'm sure he's turned things down because he recognized he couldn't do it well enough.

I do think TC is a good actor. As I said, he's good at the things he does and while those characters surely draw heavily from his personality, he's not playing himself.
07-27-2018 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
I passed hard on Jack Reacher, but now realizing it was a prior collaboration with Christopher McQuarrie, I will definitely check it out.

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
curious which few of these movies you you think are just barely watchable:

MI 1-6
Edge of Tomorrow
Oblivion
Jack Reacher
War of the Worlds
Collateral
Last Samurai
Minority Report
Vanilla Sky
Magnolia
Eyes Wide Shut
Jerry Maguire
Interview with a Vampire
The Firm
A Few Good Men
Far and Away (miss for me)
Days of Thunder
Born on the Fourth of July
Rain Man
Cocktail
The Color of Money
Top Gun
Legend
All the Right Moves (excellent)
Risky Business
The Outsiders
Taps
Bolded are barely watchable. Oblivion was fine first run, but I couldn't make it through a repeat viewing.

Cocktail is a legitimately bad movie.
07-27-2018 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Sorry to Bother You

I really hated this movie. It’s poliitcs are right up my ally but it has the subtly of a sledge hammer to the face. I didn’t find it funny at all.

Grade: D
Crash for a new generation!
07-27-2018 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
You are taking umbrage with microbet because of something someone else said? I mean, that other guy probably just doesn't go for action movies, the end.
I'm not taking umbrage at anything microbet is saying? I'm saying I like Tom Cruise a lot, microbet is saying he likes Tom Cruise less, I say that's cool, everyone likes Tom Cruise different amounts, but mostly I just want to know which Tom Cruise movies that other guy finds unwatchable.
07-27-2018 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
You are taking umbrage with microbet because of something someone else said? I mean, that other guy probably just doesn't go for action movies, the end.
I can enjoy an action sequence for maybe 5 minutes nowadays.
07-27-2018 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
I passed hard on Jack Reacher, but now realizing it was a prior collaboration with Christopher McQuarrie, I will definitely check it out.



Bolded are barely watchable. Oblivion was fine first run, but I couldn't make it through a repeat viewing.

Cocktail is a legitimately bad movie.
OK! but you're saying the rest are pretty good, right? That chillrob dude was saying that there were only a few Tom Cruise movies that were barely watchable and the rest were bad. WHICH IS BANANAS
07-27-2018 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
I passed hard on Jack Reacher, but now realizing it was a prior collaboration with Christopher McQuarrie, I will definitely check it out.



Bolded are barely watchable. Oblivion was fine first run, but I couldn't make it through a repeat viewing.

Cocktail is a legitimately bad movie.
I was just a kid, but I thought Taps was quite good, though TC was not a huge part of it. Sean Penn was. He's a really good actor imo.

I liked War of the Worlds.

Oblivion was kinda bad.
07-27-2018 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
OK! but you're saying the rest are pretty good, right? That chillrob dude was saying that there were only a few Tom Cruise movies that were barely watchable and the rest were bad. WHICH IS BANANAS
Yah I would disagree with him. I just couldn't resist listing which films I hate

I like almost everything Tom has been in. And a few roles show that he has outstanding depth, even if he doesn't often show it.

Interview with the Vampire
Born on the Fourth of July
Magnolia
Tropic Thunder

      
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