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05-25-2018 , 01:07 PM
Solo was shockingly good. Loved everything the movie added to the backstory for Solo, Han, and Lando. I left feeling excited to watch A New Hope again with the new context in mind.

I worried that the actors looking, sounding, and acting nothing like the original actors would make me as frustrated and angry as the snippets in the trailer did, but I didn't even think about it. A fun movie I'd watch again right now.

Did this need to be made? No. Was it good anyway? Yes.
05-25-2018 , 01:19 PM
Deadpool 2 was just as good as the first.

The credit scene was hilarious.
05-25-2018 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Those aren't backstories though. Those are entirely new episodic plots written up by completely different people decades after the fact in order to milk a cash cow.

Of course, YMMV.
But does that matter or make it not entertaining? I haven't seen yet but what you list won't interfere with my liking it or not. That said I have become StarWarsed out and can't really care anymore about what the franchise has to offer. I'll catch this one on cable in a few months most likely. Maybe I'll like it and maybe I won't
05-25-2018 , 03:28 PM
Prisoners https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1392214/

Excellent drama about a man who takes the law into his own hands when his daughter and her friend go missing.
Solid performances by Hugh Jackson and Jake Gyllenhaal.
Well worth a watch.
05-25-2018 , 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuffle
Those aren't backstories though. Those are entirely new episodic plots written up by completely different people decades after the fact in order to milk a cash cow.

Of course, YMMV.
I don't see how you can say that unless you take any new films as illegitimate by default. If that's the case, I disagree.

I also disagree with the assertion that they're making these movies purely as a cash grab. There are an enormous amount of people working on these films who put their heart into telling a great story.

Of course, ymmv for how you approach making art
05-25-2018 , 04:21 PM
Danny Boyle to direct James Bond #25...

Solo tonight in3diMax
05-25-2018 , 09:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
I don't see how you can say that unless you take any new films as illegitimate by default. If that's the case, I disagree.

I also disagree with the assertion that they're making these movies purely as a cash grab. There are an enormous amount of people working on these films who put their heart into telling a great story.

Of course, ymmv for how you approach making art
It's business, which is, by definition, profit-driven. Dumping money into Star Wars Episode #752 is going to generate a buck. There's a reason they do Star Wars over and over instead of Metropolis.

On the same token, I'm not so jaded that I believe everyone involved has no interest in the movie itself. The profit motives has zero bearing on my opinion of the final product. The opposite would be claiming a low-budget film is excellent because it isn't a cash grab (by default).
05-25-2018 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
It's business, which is, by definition, profit-driven. Dumping money into Star Wars Episode #752 is going to generate a buck. There's a reason they do Star Wars over and over instead of Metropolis.

On the same token, I'm not so jaded that I believe everyone involved has no interest in the movie itself. The profit motives has zero bearing on my opinion of the final product. The opposite would be claiming a low-budget film is excellent because it isn't a cash grab (by default).
Hi dave,

Agreed.

Obviously we are in a capitalist system. The people making them want them to make money. It was the assertion that the movies are being made only as a cash grab that ruffled my feathers.

Such a claim dismisses the people who work on such a film, least of all the screenwriter, and want the movie to tell a good story in addition to make money.
05-26-2018 , 02:26 AM
Busto - it doesn't dismiss anyone who works on the film. Both of these things can exist simultaneously. The reason for Solo being made is 100% a cash grab. It's not right or wrong, it just is. It also doesn't mean that there aren't passionate people who care about telling a good story who worked on it. These things are not mutually exclusive. Shuffle is wrong about the backstories point in a similar manner - of course they are backstories. They are also attempts to milk the cash cow at the same time.

mrbaseball raises excellent points. The reason for these movies being made is irrelevant to whether or not they are enjoyable. Like him, I am also StarWarsed out don't care about it anymore. If I catch Solo on a flight at some point, that would be fine. The production studios oversaturate their markets with excessive franchises (now rebranded as XXXXX Cinematic Universe) because they want to maximize profit by exploiting their IP as much as possible. They are businesses, that's what they do. It's been this way for a long time and it's not going to change any time soon. If someone doesn't like it, the best thing they can do is vote with their wallet.
05-26-2018 , 02:56 AM
chop,

I'm unsure what you are disagreeing with. I, too, said these things can exist simultaneously, and that I only took umbrage if Shuffle was dismissing the films ONLY as cash grabs. I invited Shuffle to clarify if that's not what they meant.

I could nit it up over your claim that it is 100% a cash grab, but that's probably a semantic disagreement. I concede that I'm speaking from the bias of being a similar kind of content creator as what I'm arguing toward. For me, a story concept that is likely to thrill audiences AND make tons of cash go together so often (at least the intent to come up with them together) that I just take it as a matter of course.
05-26-2018 , 08:13 AM
Solo... very surprising, surprisingly great!

The movie Solo was not great in the sense that I was watching cinematic genius, but solo was great as in very very entertaining.

The look and style of the movie, the thin storyline and the acting all seemed to work very well within the context of the "Star Wars" universe.

The single great surprise of Solo was
Spoiler:
RON HOWARD!


These alternative storylines, Rogue One and Solo, have really out shown the original series movies by a wide margin.
05-26-2018 , 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSchu18
Solo... very surprising, surprisingly great!

The movie Solo was not great in the sense that I was watching cinematic genius, but solo was great as in very very entertaining.

The look and style of the movie, the thin storyline and the acting all seemed to work very well within the context of the "Star Wars" universe.

The single great surprise of Solo was
Spoiler:
RON HOWARD!


These alternative storylines, Rogue One and Solo, have really out shown the original series movies by a wide margin.
Definitely agree with this. Caught a 10am screening this morning and it blew my low expectations out of the water. More pumped for a Solo sequel than episode 9 now haha. If TLJ left a bad taste in your mouth I'd still say give this one a chance.
05-26-2018 , 03:07 PM
Detroit was just meh. Felt messy and disjointed, pretty disappointed actually after Bigelow's last two efforts of The Hurt Locker and ZDT.
05-26-2018 , 03:25 PM
Maze https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5752606/

Pretty good drama inspired by the Maze prison breakout in 1983 during which
38 IRA members escaped.

I was serving during this time and had arrived at the Maze the evening of the breakout.
I'd only been in NI for a few weeks by then and remember, as I went through the main gate and seeing all the hullabaloo going on, thinking to myself, 'what the **** have I gotton myself into?'
As it was my first night there I was just told to stay in the rec room and stay out of the way. Suited me just fine
05-26-2018 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
My statement wasn't qualitative. I think it's incorrect to say "this is so-and-so character's backstory" when a new movie is written and filmed by different people decades later. It's fanfiction with a very large budget.
Fair.

FWIW, I like fan fiction
05-26-2018 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
Fair.

FWIW, I like fan fiction
You better!

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05-26-2018 , 06:53 PM
05-26-2018 , 11:45 PM
Criterion?
05-27-2018 , 12:36 AM
Solo

Bowery Boys: Steal a space ship.

Hot Rods & Hot Babes: check.

The Defiant Ones: Chewie's big chance at an Oscar!

Saved by: Woody, where nobody knows your name.

The Great Monorail Robbery!: check.

Ruh-roh: pirates!

Party scene with weird robots: check.

Hot Rod Babe: is back!

Robot Wars: no longer politically correct.

Bar scene with weird aliens; poker scene with call & raise: check.

Wookiee Liberation Army: check.

20,000 Leagues Under the: Gravity Well.

Pirates again: Road Warriors.

Mad Max: The Little Red-Haired Girl.

Chewie: always has to carry the luggage. Wtf?

"I'm yours."

Great. Too much mushy stuff but otherwise a really fun flick. As good as (no, better than) any Star Wars movie. Check it out.
05-27-2018 , 02:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSchu18
Criterion?
fan fiction
05-27-2018 , 10:24 PM
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

During the Cold War a retired spy hunts for a possible mole at the top of British intelligence

A good counterweight to action packed spy movies, this one is all suspense and paranoia. The story is good and the cast is top notch. I'd recommend it.

The editing is a bit sloppy though. It makes the story unnecessarily confusing but once you get the contours of the story it makes more sense so you got to hang in there for a bit.
05-28-2018 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

During the Cold War a retired spy hunts for a possible mole at the top of British intelligence

A good counterweight to action packed spy movies, this one is all suspense and paranoia. The story is good and the cast is top notch. I'd recommend it.

The editing is a bit sloppy though. It makes the story unnecessarily confusing but once you get the contours of the story it makes more sense so you got to hang in there for a bit.

A masterpiece of the genre! Intelligent, understated spy drama with an impeccable cast. Plot is super complicated, but that's what you get when you sign up for a John Le Carre thriller.
05-28-2018 , 08:51 AM
Corrina Corrina... a extremely delightful lighthearted film.

Whether you believe it's possible for Ray Liotta to fall in love with Whoopi Goldberg isn't as important as the journey they take together along with the fathers emotionally distract and traumatized daughter Tina Majorino (from Napoleon Dynamite).
05-28-2018 , 10:12 AM
Saw Deadpool 2 yesterday. I thought it was awesome. Made me laugh my ass off. Superhero stuff like fight scenes were as boring as ever but the humour was great.
05-28-2018 , 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuffle
Those aren't backstories though. Those are entirely new episodic plots written up by completely different people decades after the fact in order to milk a cash cow.

Of course, YMMV.
Exactly. An even better example is the next cow to be milked: Boba Fett, who was basically a glorified extra in the earlier films, although for some reason has a cult following that will probably make the movie a financial success. (Although Solo is failing to live up to expectations, falling tens of millions of dollars short of weekend box office projections. And given that it reportedly cost close to $300 million, it may even fail to make a profit. It made $103 million domestically and "bombed" overseas with only $65 million.)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...rategy-1115233

      
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