Best scene by far

This is false-ish. The movie was not shot for the IMAX aspect ratio. To get the additional image they're either cropping, squeezing, or opening up the frame a bit to portions along the edges that Roger Deakins (cinematographer) did not necessarily intend to be in the shot. Here's a thread where he gives an answer to what his preferred format is:

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/film-ta...2049-2d-or-3d/

I haven't found a definitive explanation on how the IMAX version was done or how acceptable/unacceptable it is based on the original frame composition, but Deakins states clearly there that he intends it to be seen in 2D standard.

The good news for those of you who already saw it in IMAX and liked it is that now you can go see it again "for the first time" in its intended format.

Given that critics and most everyone here loves BR2049, does anyone have a theory for why it crashed at the box office this weekend? (And by "crashed" I'm referring to the fact that it only grossed $31.5m when it was estimated to pull in $45m - $50m.)

Even Ryan Gosling and Jared Leto can't pull the female audience.

Going to rewatch final cut tomorrow and see it Wednesday. Can see IMAX or not doesn't matter (apart from £6 difference in ticket price!). Is it really not worth IMAX? This has surprised me.

I loved it in IMAX

Might go see it in 2D now to see what difference is

I texted my brother about BR2049 that "Film buffs and blade runner fans are going to love it. General audiences are going to be bored."

It's nearly 3 hours long, and it's slow-moving. It's full of long brooding shots of the hero staring into a dystopian landscape with his torment only hinted at. Multi-layered, and full of symbolism and unanswered mysteries--it provides questions and no answers. What part of that suggests blockbuster?

Most cinema goers aren't going to be thinking, "visual masterpiece", but rather "when is Harrison Ford going to finally show up?" Then, when the climax arrives, it is rather unsatisfying.

So if I was pretty bored by the original blade runner this movie isn't for me, right?

I am not big on the original Blade Runner but I didnt feel bored at all during 2049.

See the final cut instead. The original theatrical version is bad.

While there are technically 7 versions of the original Blade Runner, there are two main cuts, all the other versions are only slightly modified from these:

Theatrical Release:
Has narration
Has a happy ending
Is more ambiguous over the "Is Deckard a replicant?" question

Final Cut:
No narration
Darker ending
Is less ambiguous over the "Is Deckard a replicant?" question

Of those two, the Final Cut is better even though I don't like certain aspects of it.

The only aspect that is worse for me is for some reason they change "****er" to "father" in the Final Cut.

Father is more poignant. Tyrell is Roy's father...his god.

The other way seems more appropriate for him in my opinion, he's met his God, and it's not what he hoped for.

That's what I'm going with, I watch the Red Letter Media YouTube videos and those guys seem to be more in line with my tastes,and that's what they said.

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But Batty just arrived and he's still hoping for help from Tyrell.

Absolutely loved Blade Runner 2049! It was way better than the original. A visual masterpiece. Denis Villeneuve is a master. Amomg the greatest working directors. Ford can’t act at all and is the only weak point.

Read in passing the other day that Ford is the biggest grossing box office star ever. I guess it's pretty obvious when you look at the scale of his trilogies but it hit me by surprise. I agree about his acting ability but I grew up going back and forth between who I wanted to be - Indiana, Han, or, Jack Ryan....and thus will forever be a fan

He's phoning it in in his old age but he was fine in his younger days.

Not sure if I saw the same Blade Runner movie as everyone else. I'll preface by saying I only read the synopsis of the first one and never actually saw it. Movie was incredibly boring with the visuals and soundtrack easily being the best part (and they were quite good) but besides that I was not impressed at all especially given the hype

i thought the first blade runner was really overrated but pretty decent. new one was amazing

I am just speaking in general ideas and terms dom.

I feel this "Father is more poignant" is an anthropomorphic response because it assumes a humanistic quality to these replicants. I find it more truthful to think of them as "NOT" human... even though they are enhanced flesh and blood and as such, they are infuriated by the control placed on them by a creator that is clearly inferior to them.

The term "father" ruins the scene for me because Roy sole intent is to Wring every last ounce of life out of Tyrell by what ever means necessary, and short of that, destroy what created his plight. This is an angry and destructive encounter and it's not until much later that Roy realizes some form of Humanity... perhaps in some part because of the murder of his creator.

They've been "gifted" with emotions - but no way to control those emotions - that's why Rachel has implanted memories...she's a Nexus 7. Batty is confronting his god, his father...he's trying all he can do to get more life, and if being slightly deferential will do that, fine. He's not actually deferential, just trying it out...he doesn't know what that will "feel" like.

"Fuc*er" always seemed anachronistic and out of place to me.

I agree with everything else in this paragraph, though...although I do think Roy is being manipulative at first..he likes the battle, the mind-fu*k, of calling Tyrell "Father" and then being a threat.

Funny, I once broke down that scene over two weeks in a film class I taught. More for the technical aspects of it than the thematic ones, but we also touched on those, as well. Great scene.

It's probably my favourite scene of the original.