Rom coms are my guilty pleasure (meaning I've seen way too many of them) and The Big Sick is far from formulaic IMO.

I don't know about all that, but ridiculous was maybe an overstatement. It was very good and I might end up being ok with a screenplay nomination. But it fell a little short of excellence for me because of some of the things Eeyore mentioned. I'd be surprised if it's top of the pile by March.

I did not think Zoe Kazan was especially good. As someone mentioned a while ago, they did not have great chemistry. I thought Holly Hunter and Ray were really good.

I enjoyed it and thought it was one of the best movies this year, but that says more about this year than it does about the movie. Definitely nothing amazing and I'd argue for being on the formulaic side as well.

Guy meets girls who is out of his league. Guy and girl fall in love but guy pushes girl away because he's a ****. Girl changes guy who becomes a better person, pleading unsuccessfully for her to take him back. At the end of the movie girl surprises guy and takes him back.

That's totally formulaic. It's the same outline as the last romcom I saw (Trainwreck) with genders reversed. The two separate cultures dating thing goes back at least 420 and probably longer. I don't know enough Chaucer but he probably covered it.

The Big Sick followed the same outline as every other romcom. Trainwreck's gimmick was the girl was the slutty douchebag. Big Sick's gimmick was the girl spent half the film in a coma.

Enough Said was original. The Forty Year Old Virgin roughly fit the broad romcom archetype but was original. The Big Sick was romcom ABC.

a movie can be both formulaic and very good. There's a reason that is a successful formula. I honestly don't understand complaints about a movie being predictable and formulaic. The Big Sick wasn't trying to be an edge of your seat thriller. Who cares if you can predict the ending? Of course the guy and the girl end up together. That's how movies work!

Like if you're watching romantic comedies looking for an EXCITING GENRE BENDING TWIST, uh, maybe watch another kind of movie? Try a thriller or something.

Sounds like our Clovis has a pc hard-on for this one's multiculturalism if he's ready to give it Oscars.

Multiculturalism itself is a shark jumping a shark.

If I saw a movie with a shark jumping another shark,Fonzie style, with the leather jacket, I'd give it an Oscar too.

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Lol the multicultural elements had nothing to do with why it’s good.

Aren’t you the guy who goes into anaphylaxis at the mere mention of politics itt? It’s ok as long as you are spouting trumpkin inspired attacks on “pc”?

P.s. don’t think I don’t know what you mean by pc.

I think one point that is being overlooked is the big sick was a true story.......I'm sure some parts were embellished for dramatic effect, but hard to complain it's formulaic when they're just telling the story of how they hooked up.

edit: I didn't the movie was anything special (aside from the joke which I had never heard before so absolutely loved) and do think it's a lil over hyped, but it was enjoyable enough.

I don't know that it deserves any oscars but who cares award shows are a ****ing joke.

Well, considering that La La Land rips off a lot of The Umbrellas of Cherbourg, not all THAT surprising they give you the same feeling...

just because both are musicals hardly makes LaLa Land a rip off of Umbrellas. They are nothing alike narratively.

The Nutty Professor (Jerry Lewis version) - feels like a weird oddity, but that might only be because I haven't seen (nor, I'd guess, have most of us) many generic/mediocre 1960s films. In other words it might be par for the course.

It's like an extended episode of a bad sitcom. There's lots of tawdry 1960s charm if you're into that sort of thing, with crazy colors and cheesy backlot sets.

I don't care for either of Lewis's characters in it, and the story is poorly told. There is nothing driving it, and the conflicts are clumsily cobbled together to set up the rather lame "grand finale".

Interestingly, the final scene has a bit of a twist that could have made things way more interesting if it had come earlier.

I'll be honest though; in the 3 hours that have passed since I finished it, it's growing on me somehow.

The King of Comedy (Scorsese) - first time, and liked it a lot. I was more than ready to be sick and tired of ****ing Scorsese and De Niro doing yet another crazy stalker story (there were probably only ~2, but god does it feel like dozens), but this worked.

Jerry Lewis really shows his chops here and perhaps this is part of what made me start to see Nutty Professor more favorably.

This might be my #1 or 2 Scorsese (have not seen Gangs of NY recently which would be the main competition, Taxi Driver has a shot as well).

Isn't this post just a formulaic rehash of the post about how The Big Sick had an original narrative?

Im pretty sure I said something similar about a couple of posts some time or other, you rip off artist!

Coincidentally I also watched Toni Erdmann just last week.

One of the best movies that I've seen in a while.

9/10

A lot you could say. Definitely didn't feel too long which is one complaint that I've seen and those (not here) labeling it a (sometimes) comedy or suggesting a happy ending... I'm really not sure that is the case, though of course there were laughs during it... but sadness or maybe just reality were never more than half a second away. Consistently throughout. I think all the way to the end.

The director has said that she had a feeling that it would be a very sad film.

It's not obviously so to everyone overwhelmingly and maybe that is part of what lifts it. Also that it has surreal things making things more real or rather heightens them (pushing them around) or enlightens them... I dunno. Great movie I think.

Since best scenes have been mentioned, I'll mention most awkward scene. It wasn't the most in your face compared to some spectacular scenes later but I can't remember anything in a movie more painfully awkward than early on after the U.S embassy gathering, where she and the father (as the father) end up going out with her big shot client and hangarounds. The interactions there had so many layers of painful that I almost couldn't take it.

This here:

Where can I see Toni Erdmann dammit??

So I got tix to Blade Runner: The Final Cut on Wednesday the 4th for me and my GF. She's never seen it on the big screen. Dolby!

Then we see 2049 on Wednesday on IMAX. Can't wait.

If you get Starz Cinema, Tuesday.

Starz On Demand.

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spider man homecoming is really good. if you dont like comic hero movies you wont like spiderman. also if you dont like comic hero movies in general, dont post here that you dont like comic hero movies in general after seeing a comic hero movie.

the difference in animation - how spidey moves, web-slings, crawls - from tobey maguirre to homecoming is really extreme. spideys movements really made the movie for me. its not flawless, but really good entertainment.

spoiler:


toni erdmann:
wtf. i thought this thread was clever enuff to recognize this movies is crap.
so sad.
best scene:
when daddy goes into deep-thought-mode and asks his daughter about the big questions in life. i really like that she replies with: "those are really deep and meaningful questions" and confronts him with those questions.

To me, Toni Erdmann sounds like one of those foreign comedies that are never quite as funny as they're cracked up to be. But I should probably watch it first before I complain about it.

You should definitely watch it. It's highly original. And I think it's something like 49% in English (I would have guessed more but IIRC it qualified for best foreign language film because 51% of the dialogue was not in English). I don't know enough about your taste in films but you might dislike it. I wouldn't recommend it to, say, my parents, even though there's only one basically irrelevant scene they'd find inappropriate. It's long & I'd say if you don't enjoy the first half hour you can safely eschew the rest of the film, even though the big set pieces happen towards the end.