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Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3 Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

08-08-2018 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Detroit (2017)

Fact-based drama set during the 1967 Detroit riots in which a group of rogue police officers respond to a complaint with retribution rather than justice on their minds.

This movie was an attempt at Oscar bait. It had all the elements. Long run time (over 2 hours), minority suffering, famous actors in various roles, major and minor, but somehow it didn't come together. I found myself checking my the run time and thinking, why is there another hour to this movie? Which is odd because the director is Kathryn Bigelow who did the Hurt Locker and Zero Dark Thirty so she knows how to make a movie, but this one isn't it.

This movie is way too long. They spend 30 minutes on the start of the riots, 30 minutes on the protagonists, 30 minutes on them at the hotel, 30 minutes having the cops arrive, 30 minutes on the trial, 30 minutes on the aftermath of the trail etc. There isn't a thread that carries the movie through like a drama would and instead it's best to think of the middle act with the cops as a kind of horror movie for blacks where the cops are the hillbillies attacking, killing, and torturing with little reason while residents of the hotel have to react to them and then another hour other stuff that feels like its connected but could have been its own movie.

It was an OK movie but also long and made specifically for Oscar bait so not really worth seeing on its own merits
Yeah Detroit failed for all these reasons and more. Was a really forgettable film.
08-08-2018 , 08:44 PM
Tusk seems like it would have made a good short film, but instead it’s a bad feature length movie. Fit into 30 minutes and it probably could have been a fun Tales From the Crypt episode

The suit & face makeup was cool, if disgusting...

Everyone else hated it
08-08-2018 , 10:31 PM
I like Be Cool... I like it a lot. Of course I love Get Shorty, but I think there is a lot to like about the characters in Be Cool... I mean a Gay Rock, what's not to like.
08-09-2018 , 05:36 AM
Ready Player One & Infinity War, 9/10 for both. Popcorn movies done right. Looks and sounds amazing in 4k HDR and Atmos with a good home cinema set up. Pure escapism which I want after a hard days work.
08-09-2018 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cranberry Tea
Son of Frankenstein (1939)



The OG bad boys of monster movies are at it again: Boris Karloff and Bela Lugosi as the monster and Igor, respectively, plus an up-and-coming Basil Rathbone playing the son of Frankenstein. Very delightful performance by stage actor Lionel Atwill as the one-armed police inspector. Unepectedly surreal, minimalist sets that seem more like theater stages than movie sets. Banging soundtrack. Also, Rathbone shows off his no-look darts skills.

Son of Frankenstein was the swan song of Frankenstein as a serious horror franchise. Many other B-movie cheap knockoffs and parodies of the character would appear on screen, but none would showcase the production values and solid performances that made Son of Frankenstein such a classic.
I will second the love for Son of Frankenstein, my favorite one, for the above reasons. Rathbone and Atwill are always great.
08-09-2018 , 10:40 PM
Sorry to Bother You


Awesome. Starts off as a movie about an African-American man (Lakeith Stanfield) who gets a job at a telemarketing firm and is taught by a co-worker (Danny Glover, who is great in a tiny role) that he needs to find his "white voice" to get sales. He does and becomes a star in the company. That **** is really funny and is filmed in a very unique way. If this is all the movie was, it would have been great. But it gets REALLY weird from there and turns into a commentary on society. Wonderful film with tremendous acting.


Ant Man & Wasp


Great! If you liked Ant Man, you'll like this, too. Really fun.


Ghostbusters (2016)


Nostalgic nerds and chauvinists hated it before it even came out. This was the second time I saw it and the first time watching it with my kids, who had already seen the two originals and loved them. It certainly has its flaws and is not as good as the classic, but it's good! I actually enjoyed it a lot more watching it with my kids because they just find funny stuff funny without dissecting everything. The women are wonderfully cast and upon the second watching, I enjoy Chris Hemsworth's character a lot more. His job interview was fantastic.


If the original movies didn't exist, the reboot would've been received a lot better.
08-09-2018 , 10:42 PM
The studio originally toyed around with the idea of shooting Son of Frankenstien in color, which led to the first known shot of a green Frankenstien's monster:

08-10-2018 , 01:19 AM
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (1967)

A couple's attitudes are challenged when their daughter introduces them to her African American fiancé.

A great movie. What makes this movie timeless as opposed to a movie about a specific time period is the complexity of the characters and the situation. At the time it was made the main issue would have been about a black man marrying a white woman, and I supposed that's kind of true today. But they layer in that they've only met 10 days before so that most of the movie I was focusing on how quick they were to get married and if they really should as opposed to just the race issue.

Spencer Tracy gives a great soliloquy and it's notable that he died two weeks after filming. I've always been a Tracy fan so it's good to see him go out on such a great performance. Sidney Poitier does amazing too, though I feel like Katharine Houghton stole the show a bit more as the free spirited daughter.

I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to see a good movie.
08-10-2018 , 03:33 AM
The Birth of a Nation (2016)

Nat Turner, a literate slave and preacher in the antebellum South, orchestrates an uprising.

The opposite of Detroit. Where Detroit was Oscar bait and forgettable, this is Oscar bait and rememberable. An obvious rebuke the The Birth of a Nation (1915) in which the "birth" explained here is the birth of a modern multi racial America as opposed to a white nation. While almost 2 hours long it holds up and I never caught myself checking the time.

Oddly I remember Nat Turner's rebellion because as part of my American History class we read 1831: Year of Eclipse which is a short history book just about everything that happened in 1831 with the implication that that's the year that was a key turning point that created the conditions for the Civil War.

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The year began with a solar eclipse, for many an omen of mighty changes -- and for once, such predictions held true. Nat Turner's rebellion soon followed, then ever-more violent congressional arguments over slavery and tarrifs. Religious revivalism swept the North, and important observers (including Tocqueville) traveled the land, forming the opinions that would shape the world's view of America for generations to come. New technologies, meanwhile, were dramatically changing Americans' relationship with the land, and Andrew Jackson's harsh policies toward the Cherokee erased most Indians' last hopes of autonomy. As Masur's analysis makes clear, by 1831 it was becoming all too certain that political rancor, the struggle over slavery, the pursuit of individualism, and technological development might eclipse the glorious potential of the early republic--and lead the nation to secession and civil war. This is an innovative and challenging interpretation of a key moment in antebellum America.
While the movie doesn't get into the history of what Nat Turner's rebellion meant until the end it's suffused with the implications of what self determination meant for blacks in slavery. The Bible became a weapon of liberation, the self consciousness of slaves as being a significant minority in the South that couldn't be held down, and the religious fervor that couldn't be quelled all come into play here. Even to this day Nat Turner's rebellion is the apex of what people who fear a race war imagine, that blacks will finally be fed up with their own mistreatment and take it out on whites, who, though it's never said out loud except in a Louis CK joke, believe it themselves that they have it coming to them.
08-10-2018 , 04:18 AM
Guess Who’s Cominig To Dinner is an entertaining movie, but I always though they stacked the deck. Not even David Duke would object to his daughter marrying Sidney Freakin’ Poitier.
08-10-2018 , 04:35 AM
Mission impossible: Fallout aka Tom Cruise the immortal was good, Henry cavill was a very good addition to the cast. I do think they took it a little bit to far for the final fight, but whatever.
08-10-2018 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Guess Who’s Cominig To Dinner is an entertaining movie, but I always though they stacked the deck. Not even David Duke would object to his daughter marrying Sidney Freakin’ Poitier.
He's good looking and a doctor!
08-10-2018 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Guess Who’s Cominig To Dinner is an entertaining movie, but I always though they stacked the deck. Not even David Duke would object to his daughter marrying Sidney Freakin’ Poitier.
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
He's good looking and a doctor!
And not just any doctor, but an internationally-renowned doctor working for the United Nations!

And speaking of Sidney Poitier....

It still amazes me that he was in three iconic films that were all released within a six-month period in 1967: Guess Who's Coming To Dinner, In The Heat Of The Night, and To Sir With Love. And you'd think that he could or should have been nominated for any one of those three roles, yet he wasn't nominated for any of them because 1967 was just a phenomenal year for movies. Here were the nominees that year:

Best Actor
Rod Steiger - In The Heat Of The Night (winner)
Warren Beatty - Bonnie & Clyde
Dustin Hoffman - The Graduate
Paul Neuman - Cool Hand Luke
Spencer Tracy - Guess Who's Coming To Dinner

Best Supporting Actor
George Kennedy - Cool Hand Luke (winner)
John Cassavetes - The Dirty Dozen
Gene Hackman - Bonnie & Clyde
Cecil Kellaway - Guess Who's Coming To Dinner
Michael J. Pollard - Bonnie & Clyde

Has any other actor ever had a six-month period, or even a full calendar year, similar to the one Sidney Poitier had in 1967? And is 1967 the best year ever for great movies? I've always thought it was 1939, but 1967 has to be a close second.
08-10-2018 , 08:36 AM
Rampage: 6/10. It started off pretty good, thought the Wolf was really cool. Then it got pretty dull and stupid, but saved by a rocking fight scene at the end. Plus I am a fan of the Rock's movies so I tend to score them a bit higher.
08-10-2018 , 08:40 AM
There wasn't nearly enough rampaging IMO.

Some action movies try to have too much plot.
08-10-2018 , 08:41 AM
Room was great. Very well done in every way, and I'd highly recommend it. That said, the material is heavy as **** and I probably won't watch it again.
08-10-2018 , 08:44 AM
Anyone seen eighth grade yet?
08-10-2018 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
And not just any doctor, but an internationally-renowned doctor working for the United Nations!

And speaking of Sidney Poitier....

It still amazes me that he was in three iconic films that were all released within a six-month period in 1967: Guess Who's Coming To Dinner, In The Heat Of The Night, and To Sir With Love. And you'd think that he could or should have been nominated for any one of those three roles, yet he wasn't nominated for any of them because 1967 was just a phenomenal year for movies. Here were the nominees that year:

Best Actor
Rod Steiger - In The Heat Of The Night (winner)
Warren Beatty - Bonnie & Clyde
Dustin Hoffman - The Graduate
Paul Neuman - Cool Hand Luke
Spencer Tracy - Guess Who's Coming To Dinner

Best Supporting Actor
George Kennedy - Cool Hand Luke (winner)
John Cassavetes - The Dirty Dozen
Gene Hackman - Bonnie & Clyde
Cecil Kellaway - Guess Who's Coming To Dinner
Michael J. Pollard - Bonnie & Clyde

Has any other actor ever had a six-month period, or even a full calendar year, similar to the one Sidney Poitier had in 1967? And is 1967 the best year ever for great movies? I've always thought it was 1939, but 1967 has to be a close second.

1967 best for sure. I took it with my first pick in the best year for movies draft. Just too many great iconic movies that have stood the test of time.
08-10-2018 , 09:50 AM
Shane Black’s The Predator and David Gordon Green’s Halloween both announced for TIFF Midnight Madness program. Predator comes out the next week so not a big surprise but Halloween is more than a month before it’s release. They must be excited about how good it is if they’re showing it at a film festival more than a month before it’s out. That’s too much time for critics to kill the buzz if it’s bad.
08-10-2018 , 11:04 AM
Little off-topic but this idea of awarding a separate "Best Popular Movie" Oscar seems terrible. Blatant grab for ratings not to mention condescending. "OK rubes, here's an award for the movies you like to see... now, back to the artsy films nobody saw".
08-10-2018 , 11:16 AM
Yeah, that’s a horrible idea
08-10-2018 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Little off-topic but this idea of awarding a separate "Best Popular Movie" Oscar seems terrible. Blatant grab for ratings not to mention condescending. "OK rubes, here's an award for the movies you like to see... now, back to the artsy films nobody saw".
Man, ain't that the truth. Stupidest ****ing thing I've heard in awhile!
08-10-2018 , 02:05 PM
Rod Steiger deserved to win. So did Paul Newman. Too bad all those bullets at the end of Bonnie and Clyde weren't real - So that Warren Beatty would get what he deserved. Hoffman and Tracy were very good but a silly statue was not in the stars that Oscars Night. Perhaps Sidney deserved a nomination (best supporting actor) - for In The Heat of the Night.


George Kenney deserved the win for best supporting actor. The rest of the nominees were just meh compared with his performance.
08-10-2018 , 02:37 PM
The Spy Who Dumped Me was an interesting mix of "Wow I can't believe they thought that would be funny" and "Did they think that was going to be funny?"

I wish Clovis's family would visit him more often so he would see more awful movies. His last review like this I can remember was Enter The Void, and that's just entirely too long ago.
08-10-2018 , 04:08 PM
They Live (1988)

A drifter discovers a pair of sunglasses that allow him to wake up to the fact that aliens have taken over the Earth.

If you've ever wondered about where the guy in sunglasses gif came from, it's this movie.

It's a fun movie with the black and white scenes and the aliens used to good effect, making it visually stand out. The subtext about Regeanomics is a fun side note.

I'd recommend it to anyone

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 08-10-2018 at 04:27 PM.

      
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