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Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3 Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

06-14-2018 , 11:58 PM
Isn't "Once Upon A Time In The West" supposed to be part of the same universe as well?
06-15-2018 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
TCM is airing the Sergio Leone "dollars" trilogy back to back to back tonight.

Whenever these events occur or networks air these "trilogy" they always get the order incorrect. While the movies aren't really related in terms of story they are related in terms of characterization. The networks always play these movies in the sequence in which they were made... fist full of dollars/for a few dollars more/the good, the bad and the ugly.

These movies should be watched in a story chronological sequence... the good, the bad and the ugly/fist full of dollars/for a few dollars more... with Lee van cleef riding off into the sunset and Manco counting his bounty.
All three movies are available 24/7 on demand on TCM or at TCM.com from now until June 21st, so people can watch them in any order they please.
06-16-2018 , 12:41 AM
Finally caught Lady Bird.

Great, great film. I once wrote a post or a thread on here talking about "tone" in a movie, and how hard it is to get right. Greta Gerwig gets the tone absolutely perfect for this film. Ronan and the rest of the cast are also perfect.

Things about the film that impressed me the most:

How right the film gets what living paycheck to paycheck is really like. The desperation, the hopes. The dignity.

High school kids. We often make fun of millennials by telling them they aren't special snowflakes, and we think we're toughening them up for the real world by crushing their individuality. But they ARE special snowflakes, dammit. Especially at 17. Every singly one of them.

Wonderful film. Gerwig is a voice to watch.
06-16-2018 , 06:49 AM
Dom - I think you are my second favorite reviewer itt after mflip. I appreciate how effectively you are able to provide a good feel for a movie without giving away the entire story/plot. That approach creates anticipation while not ruining the element of surprise and related enjoyment.
06-16-2018 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Finally caught Lady Bird.

Great, great film. I once wrote a post or a thread on here talking about "tone" in a movie, and how hard it is to get right. Greta Gerwig gets the tone absolutely perfect for this film. Ronan and the rest of the cast are also perfect.

Things about the film that impressed me the most:

How right the film gets what living paycheck to paycheck is really like. The desperation, the hopes. The dignity.

High school kids. We often make fun of millennials by telling them they aren't special snowflakes, and we think we're toughening them up for the real world by crushing their individuality. But they ARE special snowflakes, dammit. Especially at 17. Every singly one of them.

Wonderful film. Gerwig is a voice to watch.

Totally agree. I also love the opening scene. It's the best character introduction since maybe Harry Lime.
06-16-2018 , 08:56 AM
Not sure anybody's really looking to crush these millennial darlings' individuality.
06-16-2018 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
Not sure anybody's really looking to crush these millennial darlings' individuality.
I see this all the time, especially by those seeing them as competition for perpetual childhood.
06-16-2018 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
Dom - I think you are my second favorite reviewer itt after mflip. I appreciate how effectively you are able to provide a good feel for a movie without giving away the entire story/plot. That approach creates anticipation while not ruining the element of surprise and related enjoyment.
Thanks! Don't tell the guys in OOTV...apparently, I spoil every single TV show in there.

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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Totally agree. I also love the opening scene. It's the best character introduction since maybe Harry Lime.
I agree! I also loved the last shot...how we just cut to black - Lady Bird's story will continue on, it is not over or wrapped up. The ending phone message to Mom, about Sacramento, was also moving. No matter how much we want to get out of our home town, we still miss and appreciate it once we leave.

Also have to give a shout out to the two young actresses who play Lady Bird's friends in the movie, Beanie Feldstein and Odeya Rush. The same with Lucas Hedges as her first boyfriend.

Small spoiler below:

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It was quite a moving scene when his burgeoning sexuality is not played for laughs, but for the panic he faces when he realizes he is gay and doesn't know what to do or how to tell his family. And he goes to his GF for comfort.


All the characters, even the minor ones, just felt real. As someone who is probably known in these forums for my virulent anti-religiousness, I still look back on fondness at my Catholic school upbringing, and Gerwig allowing the nuns and priests in this movie to be, well, human, was greatly appreciated. The head Nun played by Lois Smith and the older drama teacher priest played by Stephen Henderson, were quite familiar to me - kind, funny, and good role models.

I will say, the only character I had issue with was Lady Bird's mom, played by Laurie Metcalf. It's a difficult role, as she is so unlikable for the most part.

I did love what Lady Bird and her Mom do when they do together for fun - go to open houses of homes they will most likely never be able to afford and pretend they can. That was nice.
06-16-2018 , 12:32 PM
Nice post. I thought the mom was perfect. My only complaints were

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her outburst at the assembly seemed forced and the drama teachers story seemed like it was cut short.
06-16-2018 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I did love what Lady Bird and her Mom do when they do together for fun - go to open houses of homes they will most likely never be able to afford and pretend they can. That was nice.
There's a scene where they're shopping for a prom dress (I think -- some kind of dress) and they are fighting about something, and then Mom holds up dress and the conversation turns on a dime and suddenly they're agreeing on the assessment. Mother-daughter relationships can be pretty baffling, but in this movie they seemed authentic.
06-18-2018 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Snoop Todd
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It kind of is tho? She is obviously on a collision course with disaster and what she truly needs is medical treatment and support. She effectively gets both of those things by tweeting her only 30 secs of self awareness ever and then getting v lucky to survive a suicide attempt. Then her “boyfriend” is super happy to greet her even though she has been absolutely horrible to and for him and she finally gets the online attention she craves because her vid went viral. Wtf kind of message is that?
Spoiler:
My first impression was that the final scene set up a traditional "she learned about authentic relationships" and the twist being that she becomes absorbed in social media with the implication that's she's going to go down the same road again.

I rewatched it and I think you're right now. On the re-watch it does come off a lot more triumphant with Elizabeth Olson's voice at the end saying I Am Ingred meaning Plaza finally became the famous social media sensation she desperately was wanting to be
06-18-2018 , 10:15 PM
Incredibles 2 was incredible.

Best action film ive seen in a long time.

Best comedy ive seen in a long time.

Best superhero film ive seen in a long time.

Great villain, dialogue, and one of the coolest fight scenes too.
06-18-2018 , 10:35 PM
Death Wish - I like it! Hope there are more to come.
06-18-2018 , 10:57 PM
Lady Bird should have ended when that idiot jumped out of the car. RIP Lady Bird, 2001-2018. Good riddance.
06-19-2018 , 01:33 AM
06-19-2018 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Finally caught Lady Bird.

Great, great film. I once wrote a post or a thread on here talking about "tone" in a movie, and how hard it is to get right. Greta Gerwig gets the tone absolutely perfect for this film. Ronan and the rest of the cast are also perfect.

Things about the film that impressed me the most:

How right the film gets what living paycheck to paycheck is really like. The desperation, the hopes. The dignity.

High school kids. We often make fun of millennials by telling them they aren't special snowflakes, and we think we're toughening them up for the real world by crushing their individuality. But they ARE special snowflakes, dammit. Especially at 17. Every singly one of them.

Wonderful film. Gerwig is a voice to watch.
I just watched it, Dom, and I agree completely about the hearts and minds of high school kids. Who the hell wants to negotiate those years again? Gerwig does get the tone right. When we were that age, we were full of ourselves, especially with our parents, but we weren't always wrong either. We did have our moments when we did or said the right thing.

I think my favorite line of the movie--after all I am a father who somehow raised a son and a daughter--is the father asking if she is really going to get in the car with a guy who honks the horn.

Gerwig also edits nicely. I loved the cutting in the scene where Lady Bird and Julie walk through the wealthy neighborhood looking at homes, and how Gerwig rhymes that with Lady Bird walking in New York after leaving the hospital. Or the cutting between mother and daughter driving the car.

I like movies that ring true. This one does.



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06-19-2018 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by John Cole
I just watched it, Dom, and I agree completely about the hearts and minds of high school kids. Who the hell wants to negotiate those years again? Gerwig does get the tone right. When we were that age, we were full of ourselves, especially with our parents, but we weren't always wrong either. We did have our moments when we did or said the right thing.

I think my favorite line of the movie--after all I am a father who somehow raised a son and a daughter--is the father asking if she is really going to get in the car with a guy who honks the horn.

Gerwig also edits nicely. I loved the cutting in the scene where Lady Bird and Julie walk through the wealthy neighborhood looking at homes, and how Gerwig rhymes that with Lady Bird walking in New York after leaving the hospital. Or the cutting between mother and daughter driving the car.

I like movies that ring true. This one does.
yeah, this was great
06-20-2018 , 12:03 AM
The virginity line about being on top was one of the funniest lines in recent memory
06-20-2018 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Incredibles 2 was incredible.

Best action film ive seen in a long time.

Best comedy ive seen in a long time.

Best superhero film ive seen in a long time.

Great villain, dialogue, and one of the coolest fight scenes too.
Just saw it. It was all this.
06-20-2018 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock Landers
The virginity line about being on top was one of the funniest lines in recent memory
I'n really curious what this line is now. Maybe you could give it to us in a spoiler window so people can avoid it if they want to?
06-20-2018 , 05:13 AM
Amy Schumer I feel pretty was pretty ordinary. Had a couple of lol moments, but pretty much every joke was about her being (Hollywood) fat and acting like a supermodel.

GFs choice obviously, but I did actually enjoy Trainwreck, so was hoping for something better.

Emily Rat makes a (prolonged) cameo, so that made it a lot better.
06-20-2018 , 08:13 AM
Wind River: this one has been on the watch list ever since you guys started discussing it last year, due to the universally positive reviews. Having forgotten almost everything about the discussion other than how much some of you loved it, I watched it without having any clue what it was about or who was in it. The only things I could recall were that you guys loved it and it was a recent drama of some kind. Deliberately decided not to refresh my memory in order to maximize enjoyment.

Taylor Sheridan really can do no wrong, what a great film! There are a few things I can find fault with, but the sum of the parts is what matters here.

Some things I didn't like:
Spoiler:
Cory Lambert was too perfect. Everything he did worked out perfectly and he came off superhuman, which reduced immersion. This isn't Renner's fault, Sheridan really should have toned down the character to being something less than the Ultimate Supreme Badass.

The snowmobiling montage scene had me literally loling due to its ridiculous length. How did that ever make it in the movie at that length? It should have been a third of that length at the longest.

James Jordan was a little over the top. Yeah, we get he's the bad guy.

The scene where the drill crew & the police draw on each other, then everyone holsters and they continue on like nothing happened. This scene is simply ridiculous. It's really, really, really bad. The build-up of tension and the defusing were fine, and I get that part/most of the reason is to highlight the inexperience of Banner, but this could have been handled much better.

The scene where Lambert is teaching his son about the horse was not necessary and should have been cut.

The display of bullet impact from Lambert's weapon is pure lol, especially for the guy inside the trailer.

The ass shot of Olsen for absolutely no reason.


Some things I liked:
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Olsen did a great job as Jane Banner. Banner was also written well.

Police Chief Shoyo was a great character, would have been easy to cliche him but they didn't.

Gil Birmingham stole every scene he was in. He was great in HoHW but fantastic here. This a short interview he did about Wind River that's worth a read.

The production design details for the reservation were top notch.

The method and timing of the transition to the flashback.

"Why are you flanking me?!"

The scene when Hanson opens the door to see Lambert there and instantly breaks down, while Shoyo closes the door to let them have some privacy.

The ass shot of Olsen for absolutely no reason.



The love for this movie is completely justified and it's worth your time if you haven't seen it.
06-20-2018 , 01:06 PM
God how I hate Amy Schumer, everything about her. I'm rooting for her to keep making flops and ultimately go the way of Paulie Shore.
06-20-2018 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I'n really curious what this line is now. Maybe you could give it to us in a spoiler window so people can avoid it if they want to?
I don't know if it was so much the line as the situation that I found hilariously poignant...
06-20-2018 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
God how I hate Amy Schumer, everything about her. I'm rooting for her to keep making flops and ultimately go the way of Paulie Shore.
How does one determine a flop?

      
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