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Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3 Movies: Talk About What You've Seen Lately--Part 3

12-26-2017 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
really??? Huh.

the trailer makes it look horrible.
This. Positive reviews are surprising.
12-26-2017 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
Pitch perfect 3: you either like these movies or you don’t. I love them. It was better than number 2, highly entertaining and medium cringeworthy.
I thought it was the worst of the 3 but still entertaining. Like you said, you either like them or you don’t, and if you like them you will enjoy 3.
12-26-2017 , 02:13 AM
I picked up the Criterion print of Being There for my brother for Christmas. Looking forward to watching, haven't seen it in years.
12-26-2017 , 03:04 PM
Didn't know she had retired, either. Easily one of the most beautiful movie stars ever
12-26-2017 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
Pitch perfect 3: you either like these movies or you don’t. I love them. It was better than number 2, highly entertaining and medium cringeworthy.
Just saw it and enjoyed. I love these movies so if you like the first 2 this is more of the same very entertaining mix. Not sure if there will be a 4 but I'll go if there is.
12-26-2017 , 03:55 PM
I got to see her on the big screen last summer in 2046. I realize that this argument has been beaten to death, but some of these actors/movies take on a completely new life in a real movie theater. Gong Li is stunning in more ways than one.
12-26-2017 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by samuri8
I picked up the Criterion print of Being There for my brother for Christmas. Looking forward to watching, haven't seen it in years.
I have this... it's good given the era of film.

I just bought the new 4k uhd version of the dark knight... it's spectacular on oled.
12-27-2017 , 12:13 AM
A Trip to Spain stars Rob Brydon and Steve Coogan as themselves but not quite themselves. It's the third film in the series, which includes The Trip and A Trip to Italy, about two friends who travel the countryside to dine and ostensibly write about food. Michael Winterbottom's films seem almost unscripted, but the two friends, who lead very different lives, face up to love, family, friendship, and, in Spain, aging, all the while doing impressions of the famous and not so famous.

It has become one of my favorite series of films.

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12-27-2017 , 12:57 AM
Croshow wrote such a good review of the Italy one that I watched both seasons on Netflix and absolutely loved them. I had no idea a third was out, can't wait to see it. Thanks!
12-27-2017 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Didn't know she had retired, either. Easily one of the most beautiful movie stars ever
She's no Zhang Ziyi though
12-27-2017 , 06:30 PM
Molly's Game was really good, but at times it goes to great lengths to convince the viewer to look over the bad stuff and view the heroine as a victim of her circumstances which is just bs.

That aside, it's a great script, very well acted and would recommend.
12-27-2017 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Zhang Ziyi is maybe my favorite actress, and Gong Li is indeed one of the most beautiful women ever filmed on screen, but Faye Wong is the one who does it for me in 2046.
I fall in love with a vast majority of Wong Kar Wai's female characters, but yeah, Faye pretty much does it for me.

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I wonder if anyone has ever cut 2046 in chronological order like Coppola went back and did with The Godfather Part II? I suspect the film would lose most of its lyricism and be far less enjoyable, but it would be interesting to see once right after In The Mood For Love.
I don't know if this would be possible. Who could say what happens when? Time seems to be unstuck in WKW movies. I'm pretty sure that Fallen Angels starts and ends at the same point in time -- the movie is just a depiction of time looping around -- but I can't prove it.
12-27-2017 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Molly's Game was really good, but at times it goes to great lengths to convince the viewer to look over the bad stuff and view the heroine as a victim of her circumstances which is just bs.

That aside, it's a great script, very well acted and would recommend.
Have to ask, do the scenes with poker players ring true? I know how Sorkin can be prone to overwriting characters.
12-27-2017 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Molly's Game was really good, but at times it goes to great lengths to convince the viewer to look over the bad stuff and view the heroine as a victim of her circumstances which is just bs.

That aside, it's a great script, very well acted and would recommend.
I really liked this also. Sorkin is the best living screenwriter. I thought it was fine in terms of her story. Followed the book and real events closely. She didn't do anything wrong.

Only a couple poker scenes and they are fine.
12-27-2017 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
Have to ask, do the scenes with poker players ring true? I know how Sorkin can be prone to overwriting characters.
A couple of nit picks but they're by far the best poker scenes I've seen in film. I was surprised and impressed.
12-27-2017 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by John Cole
A Trip to Spain stars Rob Brydon and Steve Coogan as themselves but not quite themselves. It's the third film in the series, which includes The Trip and A Trip to Italy, about two friends who travel the countryside to dine and ostensibly write about food. Michael Winterbottom's films seem almost unscripted, but the two friends, who lead very different lives, face up to love, family, friendship, and, in Spain, aging, all the while doing impressions of the famous and not so famous.

It has become one of my favorite series of films.

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I like these a lot and just saw the Spain one the other night. I do worry, however, about the other diners in the restaurant. The two men yell and flail about as they do their impressions. I would complain to the host.
12-27-2017 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Jealous you got to see them on the big screen. Must have been nice!



Sounds like a challenge. I might have a go in the editing suite.

Since you mentioned 2046 I went back and watched it again last night. This film completed In The Mood For Love for me, which was beautiful and moody but left an empty feeling when I first saw it. I don't think I would ever truly enjoy that movie without 2046 -- itself imperfect. I can (unintentionally) identify with Tony Leung's character more than I care to admit. Bai Ling is someone I feel sorry for more than I would desire her. Faye Wong's character, on the other hand, is most earnest and remains true to herself. There is something intoxicating about watching her overlooked, sullen, downtrodden character, turned into that beautiful and exotic android. Her vacant stares and delayed reactions of love and longing simultaneously direct the movie into abstraction and give it cohesion and meaning all at the same time.

The film's only negative I can't reconcile with is the ending:

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How callous and sure of himself Chow is when he leaves Bai Ling for the last time. Sure it has to happen but I want to see a character grow and evolve over time. He's finally reached a point where he is no longer using and taking advantage of these women to hide his own pain. He arranges for Jing-wen to call her boyfriend in Japan and helps reignite their romance. He pays for Bai Ling's plane ticket so she can start her life over again in Singapore. She desperately tries to cling to him for one last night, and yes he does the right thing and declines, but he seems to take pleasure in rejecting her, smugly proud of how he handled the situation, rather than commiserating with her raw emotions. I think a more delicate ending would have made this a perfect film for me.


Something new I noticed on this watch during my favorite part of the movie that blew my mind away: check out the scene when the fictional Japanese passenger (an avatar for Tony Leung) begins kissing Faye Wong (the android). The camera cuts to another shot looking at him through a circular window -- just like the hole in the tree into which he had been hiding his secrets. He wants to make love to Su Li-zhen from In The Mood For Love. When the camera cuts to shots of Faye Wong, the circular framing is gone, as it is when she breaks off the kiss and he is returned to reality.

THAT is brilliant filmmaking.
Why can't girls ever talk like this?
12-27-2017 , 09:50 PM
I think all of us have asked this question at one time or another.



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12-27-2017 , 10:05 PM
Lady bird was fine, but underwhelming considering the amount of praise it's getting.

Nothing wrong it, decent coming of age film, but didn't feel special at all.

Wind river and IT are still my favorites for the year, but eagerly awaiting shape of water and phantom thread.
12-27-2017 , 11:03 PM
My best of 2017, in no particular order;


Nobody Speaks: Trials of the Free Press
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri
The Big Sick
Molly's Game
Faces Places
Bladerunner 2049
Get Out
Wind River
Jane


Overall it was a weak year for film.

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12-27-2017 , 11:25 PM
Is this a thing?

12-28-2017 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
This film completed In The Mood For Love for me, which was beautiful and moody but left an empty feeling when I first saw it.
In The Mood for Love puzzles me. Watching it, I become mesmerized by Maggie C.'s wardrobe. She sheds her skin more often than a snake does, but never seems to grow. Also the dress pattern is always the same, but the fabrics are completely different -- and-- they always seem to match something in the background. I know guys who make good faith efforts to match their ties with their shirts, but who changes their dress every 5 minutes to match the wallpaper? Is Maggie a snake or a chameleon? And Tony's Chow sleepwalks through making the same mistakes he will make in 2046.

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I can (unintentionally) identify with Tony Leung's character more than I care to admit.
That's my problem. He amplifies every mistake I made in my youth. Perhaps he represents the human condition.

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Bai Ling is someone I feel sorry for more than I would desire her.
I worry about Bai Ling, but don't feel sorry for her. She willing to take chances. She's willing to put it all out there. She's not in the petrified stasis of Chow.

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the fictional Japanese passenger (an avatar for Tony Leung) begins kissing Faye Wong (the android).
I don't remember this clearly. Wasn't Faye helping to write the story? Was the Japanese passenger her creation? Was he supposed to be her boyfriend in Japan, but somebody that Tony could learn from?
12-28-2017 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
Rocco was an interesting watch. Follows the Italian pornstar Rocco Siffredi around for his swan song. Def a little hardcore but worth a watch imo. Paging Dom!
Just saw this! Interesting, but it's a vanity project - he produced it. And he was the only guy in the porn biz that scared me. Just a sociopath.
12-28-2017 , 02:53 AM
So apparently, Blade Runner: 2049 is "a bomb." Someone asked Ridley Scott why it didn't do well and he said if he had directed it, it would be half an hour shorter.

I mean, the thing has made over $250M worldwide...but only $91M in the US...

so that's a bomb??
12-28-2017 , 03:05 AM
That's a hit, if your budget is $10mm...

      
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