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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Vanguard's retirement target year mutual funds are an extremely good product for virtually anyone, and especially anyone who doesn't want to invest the time and decision fatigue into trying to find something better, and if they don't have the hubris to assume that they can do better than market averages. The fees are very low, and the retirement savings plan is:
1. Buy the fund labeled with the year close to when you want to retire
2. Keep doing that
3. Keep doing that
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N. Retire.
You'll do pretty close to market average returns on a mix of stocks and bonds that is appropriate for how close you are to retirement at the chosen year. You don't even have to think about changing your allocation as you age.
An interesting point that's been made over the years is that such a small percentage of stock brokers do better than the market that it comes down to variance. Most actually do worse.
I don't know, it's hard to really put it all together. Back when I was selling online, I started up with $500 then built that to $10k in about 6 months. It was pretty easy, though I was small, but at the same time, I was selling a high-demand product.
I ended up going through a rough time and ended up spending most of that on emergencies. I had to move 3 times in 2 months and ended up losing my security deposit on two of those because of "situations." I spent $7,000 in one month, which was a disaster, then had about $2,000 in inventory that I couldn't get rid of due to a several changes in the market.
I know that's crazy, but it's just my mind. I don't like to sit still, which is probably a lot of reason I'm perpetually single, and why I jump all over the money map. It's a lot of variance, but at that time, I was earning below $30k / year at that time, so I couldn't fade any life issues. It's a bit different now and the temptation is very strong to move money around again.
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Originally Posted by Ray Zee
another thing to follow is never pay interest on anything that depreciates and goes down in value over time.
one day we all get old and dont want to have be saying hello to the people that walk into walmart. or saying would you like fries with your burger sir.
Yeah, true that. People always ask me how much I spent on some instrument. I mean, really? I can sell everything I have today for more than I bought it for. It's the cheapest hobby one can have, plus getting money for shows and other things adds upside.
The nice thing about buying a MacBook is that it doesn't depreciate much (plus it earns me money). Everything else I have is pretty much worthless, but I like wearing clothes if I'm not in the shower.
If there is one thing I abhor, it is "stuff." If I get to the point that I can't toss everything in a bag and move house, I feel like I'm weighed down. Twenty years ago, I joked that my only goal in life is to do two loads of laundry, and I never accomplished that "goal." My minimalism is extreme and probably unhealthy, if I have to be honest. You see people living in tents that own more than I do.
When I moved to Austin and back to LA, everything I owned was carry-on. When I landed, I threw half the stuff into the trash.
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Originally Posted by NhlNut
Under 60: 2 Low fee index funds. QQQQ and SP500. Small, regular purchases.
Use a brokerage account at Schwab or similar discount broker. Can also get a checking/debit account. Whatever you choose, no fee is a must.
Stuff I'll look into.
A bank account is a must-have, but I don't think there is a such thing as no-fee bank accounts anymore. My bank requires 15 purchases per month with my debit card or a rolling balance of some sort of money. I'm sure others require direct deposits or some other thing like that. Banks are horrible when you are broke, but nice to have when you have more than you'd feel comfortable keeping in your socks.
Remember when you could open a savings account with 5% APY?
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Because I work for UNLV, a state school, they automatically take out a minimum of 14% of each paycheck and put it into a retirement fund - and then they match that 14%. (Nevada does take out social security, so the retirement fund is mandatory.)
It's nice....especially since I'm bad at saving.
That's a large chunk of change, but I guess you can't miss what you don't see, right?
My technique for saving is adjusting my idea of zero. I have a number that I won't go below unless there is no other option. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but it works okay for me and keeps my spurious spending to a minimum, plus my disdain for "stuff" helps.
I got approved for this apartment I was looking at, by the way. It's a nice place and I'm sure I'll be happy there, but it's still nerve-racking. It's actually a bit of a relief since I have some idea of what my budget is going to be. It's a 750 SQ FT artist-style studio, laid out openly and feels huge inside.
The rent in LA is getting out of control. People has been telling me how their rent has been jumping up $300, despite already paying over $2,000 for a studio or small one bedroom. At least I don't live in the bay area, right?