Unfortunately, I will not be home for a long time and my firewall cuts off Pokerstars so I couldn't even leave a game up in the background to watch while I do other things.

When are you usually on there? I have looked for you a couple of times and never found you. Is your username the same there as it is here???

diebitter


Will be on in an hour.

Fish

I usually hide

I recently purchased Holdem Manager and boy is it fantastic. It's even more detailed than Pokertracker, and has graphs and an incredible HUD included, as well.

Definitely worth the small price of $55-$80 (depending on what levels you play)

So.... That means you do not show up in a search for player?
Just have to look at games and find a table where you are at?? Don't get me wrong, I don't mind doing that I just want to make sure I am not making a stupid assumption.

How long do you think you will be on tonight?
What times are you usually playing? Weekends?
I wouldn't mind railing at times but with a time difference, not sure how well that will work??
If you do not want to post that here, PM me.

Oh Ya, if I haven't said it before, and I do not think I have, Thank You!!!

I'm unhiding at the moment. So you can use the search to find me.


I usually play at around 4pm-6 or 7pm EST Monday and Wesnesday, later on Fridays

I'm either multitabling a lot of FR tables at nl100 or nl200, so I'm easy to find if I'm on.


and then at other odd times.

The Mon, Wed times I am usually still at work but I'll keep looking when I get home earlier enough or whenever

Question, I know everyone multitables. I never did mutitable playing limit much more than two tables, unless I was bonus clearing then I would go up to 4. For the 2No-Limit, I pretty regularly was multitabling 4 at a time(I was buying in short at $1 also) and it usually wasn't a big deal as I was playing fairly tight. What would you suggest I start out at with the "higher" limit for tables. Should I just start with one or two so I can pay attention better or go to 4 to get more hands in??

Boy, db, playing FR?

You do like pain, don't cha?

No I like $$$$. Here's results for the 1 hour of NL200 - 18 tables. If you can do better at 6-max, strength to you (PS. I'm nowhere near as good as the best NL200 players):

Fish

If you find NL10, don't be discouraged. In some ways, the game gets easier as you move up. The important thing is to really get a solid ABC game down pat, and then you can start to be creative and adaptive.

And to encourage you, you get ******ed plays at all levels. Example:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($184)
Hero ($200)
Button ($200)
SB ($364.85)
BB ($61.20)
UTG ($205.70)
UTG+1 ($197)
MP1 ($239.60)
MP2 ($211.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T, K.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $8, 1 fold, MP3 calls $8, Hero raises to $14, 3 folds, MP1 calls $6, MP3 calls $6.

Flop: ($45) 2, T, 9 (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $27, MP1 raises to $54, MP3 folds, Hero calls $27.

Turn: ($153) T (2 players)
MP1 bets $60, Hero raises to $132, MP1 calls $72.

River: ($417) Q (2 players)

Final Pot: $417

Results in white below:
MP1 has 3s 9d (two pair, tens and nines).
Hero has Tc Kc (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $417.

play enough so you can pay attention, and start adding them as you see fit. I'd make sure you get the basics of opening hands down pat first. HOC volume 2 has a great chapter that covers beating nl10.

Yah - you did good. I saw you felt a guy with AA when your flopped a straight on the 1076 board - with your 89s.

98s IS A RAISIN HAND IMO!

I remember that. The guy limped early-ish, I raised from late-middle, he reraised, but not enough to give me poor odds but enough to clearly define his hand range, so I called in position. Muppet.

I was trying to type "gay pirate" comments in the chat, but PS wouldn't let me because I don't have enough for a buy-in there.

Stupid Omaha draining my account.

I have to share this.
I really wanted the guy to bet on the end. I suppose I should have bet. It was fun anyway!

lol very nice royal fish! Poker is so fun when you know you have an unbeatable hand and you're just hoping the guy bets... too bad it doesn't happen very often!

how do you not bet that?????
now we know where you got the name "Fish."

Ya, Ya, Ya, I know. I was really trying to figure out how to get more money in the pot. I was really hoping he would bet on the river since he raised me on the flop, bet the turn and the river is a blank.

I suppose I should have just shoved on the river hoping me has a hand and might suspect a bluff??? The only problem I saw with that is that I had been playing pretty tight up until then and figured he might fold if I shove and all of that. More likely, in hindsight, I should have just made some kind of value bet????

DB.....
I have some hands from last night saved that I have questions about. Should I post them here or should I put them in the Micro Full Ring forum. I did read some postings in there last night and thought they were interesting.

Last nights stab at NL10 was a success. I came out a few dollars ahead and it would have been better if I hadn't lost one of my stacks when I shoved PF with JJ and some LAGtard who had been raising PF with total crap wakes up with AA.

Fish

That happens. It was probably still +EV to shove JJ there so don't sweat it.

I suggest a little trick when you get into spots that require some decision-making. That is, think to yourself 'If I were in this same spot a million times over, holding exactly the same cards and with the action going down exactly the same to this point, what action would make me the most money over those million times'. This helps disassociate your action from the results. In poker, you need to be decision-orientated, not results oriented. Which means, smile when your decision is a good one, even when you lose, and frown if your decision was a bad one, even when you win.


Post in the FR forum. I will definitely respond in detail to all you post

And with your Royal. A shove would have been okay there too, but a check was fine, in the hope he'd bet a little with something, or even big-bluff you. If he had a low flush, he may have bet a little, but could well have checked, but you wouldn't have got much more from him. A shove here helps because the action does indicate you could be bluffing, though probably with a smallish flush, so if he has got a medium flush, he might call. If he folds anyway, observant players might note you as a potential big bluffer, which means you have given them an incorrect impression (always good).

So a shove in this spot would sometimes yield results when the action so far indicates no one wants to build the pot, as it looks more like a big bluff.

also I wrote a tool to help you hand-range people given their VPIP/PFR for the FR forum. But you probably don't have poker tracker or similar, so wouldn't be as much help to you as it could be.

It's for FR, btw.


Hand Ranger V4

That's a good way to think about it DB. I'll do that. I figured shoving with JJ was OK, especially with the way this guy was playing. I did get to do a happy dance a little while later when I was able to double up from this guy when my 99 flopped J9J.

Stupid question

When I am playing NL10 should I buy in for 10 or just go with the $6 that is there by default??

On one hand I see buying in at 6 OK because I am still learning and if I really screw up I lose less. But, on the other hand if I get the chance to shove and someone calls I want as much money available as I can????

Nope, No Poker Tracker for me. I am intrigued by the app Dom posted yesterday. I know it is probably a good idea but for some reason (most likely just sheer cheapness(which I know is stupid)) I haven't bought yet.

Deeper is always better

Shortstack is second best (SS strategy is well covered in Ed Millers Getting Starrted in Holdem) but be aware many players loathe shortstackers

Knowing good SS strategy makes it pretty easy to take money from bad SSers



60BB is not an easy size to play cos your speculative hands have lower implied odds and your great hands don't get paid off in full

This is somewhat offset by people being more willing to get it all in light because its not that deep

Ed Miller has a good discussion of the advantages of small-stack play in the book "Small Stakes Hold'em". He feels it is a perfectly valid strategy that is unfairly looked down on.

When you have a shorter stack, your post-flop decisions become easier. It is a much less tough decision to call an all-in bet with a good-but-not-great hand like top-pair top-kicker, when you have say 20-40BB as opposed to +100BB. A short stack also negates your opponent's ability to make moves on you after the flop - it is very difficult to bluff a short stack and steal a pot.

However if your skill level is better than your opponents, it's better to be deep because the extra chips give you more ammunition to outplay your opponents after the flop. You can bluff and put pressure on your weaker opponents (assuming they are not short stacks themselves). It is more tricky to play deep though - you need to be able to get away from a hand like an overpair sometimes (which many people at small stakes are unable to do).

I like buying in deep simply because so many players at the NL100 level where I usually play are willing to go all-in with TPTK. I can get paid off much more when I flop a big hand like a set, when I have a bigger stack.