It's possible to overwind a watch right? How will I know when the power reserve is full? Don't want to damage anything.

In the manual it says to make 25 full rotations to fully charge it, but that's when it's dead. What if I'm not sure how much of a charge there is left?

Hi GooseHinson, I believe your watch has an ETA 2892. That movement I believe has a mechanism to prevent overwinding if you are doing it by turning the crown.

If you are really worried though, just stop winding when you feel more resistance or hear a small clicking sound.

with automatics, its typically better to wind it by rotor anyways. Sometimes I'll start a watch going by turning the crown a few turns then just put it on and have the natural wrist action take over.

+1 for this.

If a good quality tourbillion can be produced at a fraction of the cost, then why not? Why does a Chinese tourbillion have to be seen as dirty if it can be comparable in quality to a Swiss made one? Just because there is no high-end brand name on it doesn't make it wrong.

I mean no disrespect solsek, but your post came across as rather snobby to me.

I understand where you guys are coming from. I definitely don't buy watches for other people, but for myself. I did not look into the reliability of Chinese tourbillions, but they do get some decent reviews. I had an impression (from past experiences with other luxury items), that Chinese items that are produced at a fraction of the cost are usually also a fraction of the quality. So if they are on par in terms of quality to the high end swiss tourbillions then I guess there would be no problem in buying one at the fraction of the cost. Maybe this has to do more with swiss watch makers not being innovative enough to produce complications that cannot be easily made by asian, or even "lower" swiss brands. But it's just unfortunate, that my "dream" complication was a tourbillion-something that would be always slightly out of reach, and if Chinese watchmakers are making and releasing a $1k version it, it kind of ruins the mystique behind them. Oh well, there is always the next big complication.

You will definitely feel resistance when it is fully wound. You will know.

Agree with other poster if it is an automatic, best to give it a few turns and then just slap it on the wrist.

Man, watches with lemania 5100s have really been hot in the used market. Next target is something with this movement, either a Sinn or maybe a Tutima or even a Speedy if the price is right.









I love the peculiarity of the chronograph minute hand being center driven and the availability of an extra 24 hour hand.

What model # is that speedy?

I agree about it ruining the mystique behind it, but keep in mind, this is what drives innovation and sets those high end brands apart from their Swiss competitors.

Yeah, definitely. It's a good thing for sure. So how close are the chinese tourbillions in terms of quality to the Swiss ones? I've just read personal reviews from forums like WUS, I haven't found one where they are compared under controlled settings.

There were a number of models made with the 5100, mostly in the70s and 80s.

Here is a good speedmaster resource

http://www.lesmala.net/jean-michel/s...er/history.htm

By the way found another watch where gems are acceptable.

I mean if you can pull off an MB&F anyways, then you can pull this off

http://www.ablogtoread.com/mbf-with-...machine-watch/

Really?? I was at my jeweler recently (authorized ML, Oris, etc. dealer) and he told me the exact opposite. Said almost 100% of the instances he runs into with slow/off-time automatic watches have to do with not being fully wound because the owners relied solely on the rotor. His claim was the rotor is good enough to keep a watch wound, not wind it in itself.

I'll revisit this the next time I am over there.

lol amoeba. looks crazy. haha god damn that would be really funny to wear. Having a goddamn owl as the shape of the case. Looks sickkkk.

Probably depends also on what type of lifestyle you life. If you live a sedentary life style or have a office that doesn't requite too much movement topping off the winding once or twice a month (if the watch is worn daily) is probably a good idea. I know a lot of movements dramatically drop in accuracy as the winding mechanism becomes unwound. When it gets towards the end of its life I've heard self-reports that even the reliable ETA-2892 can be quite inaccurate during its final hours. I generally wind my watch by just shaking it while its on my wrist. I don't like to unscrew and screw the crown very often as it might destroy the treads after a while.

Speaking of the ETA 2892, here is an interesting read:

http://www.chronometrie.com/eta2892/eta2892.html

really like this for amazing sale

That was on sale a while ago for around $2000 I believe.

Don't worry though, if you have patience, I'm sure that Maurice Lacroix chrono will creep up again.

something about that left subdial really turns me off. otherwise i like it.

and yea that was on gilt for like 5k off retail or something ridiculous. first 'nice' watch i've seen on that site i think. wonder why it was on there.

Same

Gotta say, I like the black face alot better on that chrono. The black face also doesn't have the weird left subdial.

Aesthetically, I'm not a huge fan of the subdials cutting that much in to the hours for either watch. Unfortunately, the subdial placement is dictated by the movement, in this case the ubiquitous Eta/Valjoux 7750, and in order to not have the watch be supersized to something like 44mm, they are forced to cut in to the hour markers.

I like the size of the watch but perhaps one thing they could have done is remove the tachymeter track since nobody ever uses that anyways and move the numbers out a bit.

I posted earlier but in terms of chronographs, I still think the prettiest one is the Breguet Type XX Aeronvale or the Type XXII




I love how all the subdial hands are different and the layout is super balanced.

In terms of a more affordable and utilitarian chrono, the new Sinn 900s is pretty badass though it is 44mm



Its actually good that Sinn released this PVD coated version of their 900 chrono that uses the newer 7754 (built in GMT hand) instead of the 7750 with additional GMT module that the stainless steel 900 uses. It also brings down the prices of used SS 900 a bit.

Speaking of sinn, I'm looking for a U1, 657, or maybe an 857 on a bracelet. PM me if you've got one you want to get rid of.

With regards to the winding earlier, I think if you have an late model ETA movement, you really don't have to worry about the rotor not winding your watch fully after a full day of usage.

Here is a link to the describing the ETA winding system
http://www.timezone.com/library/horo...77243512065083

Since its a bidirectional winder, it will have a much higher winding efficiency than watches with a unidirectional winder.

I've found that on my watches with ETA movements, 7 to 8 hours of wear winds it to pretty much 40 hours which is very close to the power reserve limit (maybe I fap too much though).

not a watch, but does anyone here wear one of these??

wtf is that?

I think it protects him from demons.