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eviljeff and wstaffor are incapable of making posts that don't radiate arrogance

but some of them are pretty funny, so im not sure how i feel overall

Fair enough. It's on purpose.

Arrogant or not, I'm offering solid advice. Law school, like most things, is only as hard as you convince yourself it should be. People have everyone else in their life to tell them how "hard" law school is, and how difficult it is "just to graduate." If you hear that enough, you believe it, and then it becomes true. Well, that's a load of ****, and I'm going to tell people the truth. As long as you put away silly juvenile BS like "learning for the sake of learning" and acknowledge that you're buying a degree, not an education, law school can be a 3 year vacation. It has been for me.

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12-30-2008 , 09:13 PM

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Noah.

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At my law school, only 10% of people get less than a B- in each class. So a 3.0 is basically guaranteed and obviously anyone who stays for three years will graduate (since 2.0 is base for graduation and even if you are bottom 10% in every single class for 3 years, you can still pull a 2.3).

As far as wstaffor being arrogant, if you can't stomach a heaping helping of dickhead with your advice, maybe law isn't for you.

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12-30-2008 , 09:53 PM

#104

FlyWf

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Only the TTTiest of the TTTs actually fail people out of law school, and they only do that so their bar passage rates are merely hilarious.

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12-31-2008 , 02:32 AM

#105

wstaffor

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Only the TTTiest of the TTTs actually fail people out of law school, and they only do that so their bar passage rates are merely hilarious.

At Penn, Cs are discretionary and even Fs are "with credit". The ONLY way to fail a class without credit is to not attempt the final, and even then they'll jump through hoops to let you make it up.

It's hilarious. Law school is such a joke. A monkey could graduate as long as they get in.

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12-31-2008 , 02:43 PM

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CIncyHR

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just got back my 175 LSAT score. sweet. that hopefully makes my 3.37 undergrad gpa look better.

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01-01-2009 , 06:02 PM

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MaliceUW

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hah i think i'd rather have that than my 169/3.7 =[

either way, still got some t14 acceptances...you applying this cycle?

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01-01-2009 , 06:03 PM

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MaliceUW

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also screw december's -11 curve, we got -9, fvck.

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01-03-2009 , 02:40 AM

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CIncyHR

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trying for '09 but its gonna be super shayd getting it done. hoping columbia/gtown

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01-03-2009 , 04:55 AM

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MaliceUW

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you gotta get your LSAC GPA to figure out your chances, send that sh|t in

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01-06-2009 , 04:13 PM

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Karak

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Originally Posted by MaliceUW

also screw december's -11 curve, we got -9, fvck.

December test was hard man.

Anyways I got my scores back too. This personal statement **** is hard though.

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01-06-2009 , 06:15 PM

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MaliceUW

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December test was hard man.

Anyways I got my scores back too. This personal statement **** is hard though.

www.top-law-schools.com has been quite helpful, I suggest you check it out with regards to any part of the application process.

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01-06-2009 , 06:55 PM

#113

Karak

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Originally Posted by MaliceUW

www.top-law-schools.com has been quite helpful, I suggest you check it out with regards to any part of the application process.

Yeah I've been posting and using that site. Great site.

I've written 3-4 drafts of my PS so far, and I just am not satisfied with it. I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm prob just gunna send it as is.

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01-06-2009 , 07:10 PM

#114

Noah.

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Your PS will get scanned quickly for hints that you're a minority, Nobel prize winner, etc. Other than that, make sure it doesn't have any typos and don't worry about it.

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01-06-2009 , 08:39 PM

#115

wstaffor

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Originally Posted by Eyedea

Your PS will get scanned quickly for hints that you're a minority, Nobel prize winner, etc. Other than that, make sure it doesn't have any typos and don't worry about it.

This.

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01-06-2009 , 08:54 PM

#116

Karak

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Originally Posted by Eyedea

Your PS will get scanned quickly for hints that you're a minority, Nobel prize winner, etc. Other than that, make sure it doesn't have any typos and don't worry about it.

I'm the definition of a borderline candidate at some of the tier 1s, so I thought they may pay more attention to it. Am I wrong?

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01-06-2009 , 08:58 PM

#117

MaliceUW

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vague breakdown of importance in the application process:
LSAT: ~50%
LSAC GPA: ~40% (these 2 differ +/- 10% based on schools)
Softs (i.e. WE/PS/EC's/etc.): ~10%

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01-06-2009 , 09:27 PM

#118

Noah.

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Originally Posted by Karak567

I'm the definition of a borderline candidate at some of the tier 1s, so I thought they may pay more attention to it. Am I wrong?

I mean, you might as well make it as good as you can within reason. Even if you are in the very small percent where it makes a difference, something which you'll never really know, the payoff might be worth it for a few hours of work.

If you have any interest in having someone read over it and give some general comments or suggestions, send me a PM and I can give you my e-mail.

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01-08-2009 , 03:08 PM

#119

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Originally Posted by Eyedea

i sucked at logic games to start, but ended up getting none wrong on the real deal.

wow this is epic. isn't this really really hard to do?

i got a 170 on my first practice test and found reading comp/logical reasoning very doable but got reamed time-wise on the logic games. i barely even got to the fourth game. i dunno if i can ever get fast enough. 8.5 minutes per game seems like a cruel joke

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01-08-2009 , 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MaliceUW

also screw december's -11 curve, we got -9, fvck.

could somebody explain what this means too? i'm assuming this is with regards to lsat scoring

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01-08-2009 , 03:51 PM

#121

Noah.

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Originally Posted by lolasthma

i think its a lot easier to ace these than any other section.

after a while, there is like 5 patterns and you don't even read the words (like the matrix!)

doctors and offices with patients, or vets with cages and animals; christmas lights in a row or marbles in a bag; all the same thing.

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01-08-2009 , 06:42 PM

#122

Karak

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I got 5 wrong in logic games on the real deal.

I was fine with that.

I took one practice LSAT and got 13 (!!!) wrong on logic games. I actually scored a 163 on that practice somehow.

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01-08-2009 , 08:14 PM

#123

MaliceUW

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Originally Posted by lolasthma

It is commonly said that logic games are the most learnable, so if that is your weak point now, all the better.

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01-08-2009 , 08:17 PM

#124

MaliceUW

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Originally Posted by lolasthma

could somebody explain what this means too? i'm assuming this is with regards to lsat scoring

The "-x" refers the amount one can miss and still hit a 170 on the LSAT. The curve is determined by the people who produce the LSAT prior to the administration of the test based how difficult they believe it to be.

I always thought this was weird, because I would assume they could calculate a much more accurate curve by seeing how people actually scored relative to other tests rather than trying to gauge how difficult the test is beforehand.

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01-08-2009 , 10:40 PM

#125

wstaffor

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Originally Posted by MaliceUW

The curve is set because all the questions were previously experimental questions on earlier LSAT administrations. It's not just the testmaker's whim.

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