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11-05-2015 , 07:36 PM
Meh I don't truly remember at this point. Plus I failed once, so obviously I wasn't great at the guessing; thankfully that didn't follow me into the actual bar exam. I would think that three hours of study should easily get you there for the MPRE, but do whatever you're comfortable with.
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11-05-2015 , 07:38 PM
If you are asked whether or not you are allowed to appear before a judge when your wife's third cousin college professor donated to his or her campaign six years ago, respond in the negative.
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11-05-2015 , 07:38 PM
Don't sleep with your clients. Don't steal from your clients. Don't commingle funds. Be mindful of conflicts. Most conflicts can be waived in writing.

Test is easy but like LKJ I failed it once. I chalk that up to studying with a case of bud light.
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11-05-2015 , 07:58 PM
I'm also taking PR but haven't purchased the book or read anything or paid attention in 80-90% of class, so watching the lecture will probably be a little helpful for that.
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11-05-2015 , 07:58 PM
'ppreciate the advice gents.
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11-05-2015 , 08:43 PM
Passed easily 1st time, did not study beyond showing up in class for PR.

Mostly common sense. 3 hour thing should be plenty, unless it's not clicking, then maybe try something else, too.
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11-06-2015 , 04:25 PM
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How is that even possible? Does your school not have a mandatory curve?
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Yeah I didn't even know there were law schools that didn't have a mandatory curve for 1Ls
the school mantained that the mandatory curve is across the entire 1L class, not between the individual sections. So if the whole 1L class fits the curve they dont have to change the individual professors' grades.

I have no idea the validity of that statement but that was the answer to everyone that was freaking out.
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11-06-2015 , 04:26 PM
as for mpre, watch the barbri video closely if you have access to it.

The Lecturer mentioned several tricks that the MPRE uses and all of them were on the test. I still remember the ambassadorship rule, how it is a permanent appointment and you can no longer be listed on the firms name if you take one.


i watched the video and had taken PR(didnt pay attention but got a B+ on the exam) and passed all jurisdictions with not too much difficulty.
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11-06-2015 , 05:36 PM
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as for mpre, watch the barbri video closely if you have access to it.

The Lecturer mentioned several tricks that the MPRE uses and all of them were on the test. I still remember the ambassadorship rule, how it is a permanent appointment and you can no longer be listed on the firms name if you take one.


i watched the video and had taken PR(didnt pay attention but got a B+ on the exam) and passed all jurisdictions with not too much difficulty.
Yea do this. Everyone should have access to the barbri mpre video.

Also failed the first time by not spending anytime studying, but watched barbri video and did a practice test or two second time around, and passed fairly easily
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11-07-2015 , 08:40 AM
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the school mantained that the mandatory curve is across the entire 1L class, not between the individual sections. So if the whole 1L class fits the curve they dont have to change the individual professors' grades.

I have no idea the validity of that statement but that was the answer to everyone that was freaking out.
A similar thing happened my 1L year between the sections and each professor kept the curve in his/her class, some professors just gave out more C-s, Ds, and even Fs to balance out giving more As, while others gave few As and fewer lower grades to keep the curve the same.
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11-08-2015 , 12:38 PM
For the solo practitioners around here. I have worked in a public defender's office for the last 5 years. I don't know much about business, but I do know how to win cases.

I have been thinking about setting out on my own. Are there any decent resources out there for how to get started? I really have no idea on how people go about it.
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11-08-2015 , 12:59 PM
Have my first full trial tomorrow. I'm pretty nervous but I'm confident I've rehearsed/practiced enough to have it go well. My biggest fear is that some complex rule of evidence comes up or some procedural requirement I'm not aware of emerges and I look like a complete idiot. However, I'm sure it happens to everyone sometimes, so going to give it my best. Send rungood please
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11-08-2015 , 08:10 PM
Is there any specific evidential issue that you are thinking about?

Hearsay, relevance, speculation are the biggest ones. Things can get a bit more complicated if there are exhibits and such being introduced, but it really is not that big a deal.
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11-08-2015 , 09:33 PM
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Is there any specific evidential issue that you are thinking about?

Hearsay, relevance, speculation are the biggest ones. Things can get a bit more complicated if there are exhibits and such being introduced, but it really is not that big a deal.
I am introducing some exhibits, specifically 2. I have a third, but I won't introduce unless OP certifies it on cross.


That being said, OC just filed a petition to withdraw like late thursday and we just found out about it now. I guess he's going to be released it seems like (according to prof), so not sure how that will affect everything. I would assume it's a positive for us, but again, kind of just confusing is all.
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11-08-2015 , 09:46 PM
Could mean the trial is postponed.
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11-08-2015 , 10:21 PM
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Could mean the trial is postponed.
Yeah, thats what i think will happen. We will get there, he gets let off and OP claims he needs a continuance to get an attorney. I'm only on the case for another 10 days, so if it's continued, I'm probably done.

Ran through everything again tonight and feel as good as possible. Will check back tomorrow after I'm debarred and going back to poker for a career
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11-09-2015 , 08:51 AM
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For the solo practitioners around here. I have worked in a public defender's office for the last 5 years. I don't know much about business, but I do know how to win cases.

I have been thinking about setting out on my own. Are there any decent resources out there for how to get started? I really have no idea on how people go about it.
Kinda obvious question but are you eligible for a pension or other state benefits? Have you hit the milestone for that?

Are you allowed to take on any side legal work? If you can, consider slowly easing into it so like get your malpractice insurance now (part time rate should be much cheaper), set up an IOLTA/business checking etc, laying the groundwork. Other things you can be doing while working: make a website (maybe don't actually put it up yet if you're not allowed), make a facebook page for the business, get a google number for business clients, make business cards, figure out if you want a virtual office or regular, find an accountant.

I'm coming up on a year working for the federal government but I pretty much always have a couple cases on the side that I'm working. When my previous job decided to cut me with a day's notice, I could really hit the ground running.
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11-09-2015 , 09:14 PM
Got the win today!

He ended up repping himself pro se, so that was a huge relief. When I handed the first exhibit to judge/op/cl, I actually handed them a copy of our petition, not the exhibit. Beyond that minor embarrassment, everything went well. Got to speak to the Judge after for a few minutes and she said it went just fine.


On the way out, OP said he's not paying and he'd rather be in jail than make these payments, so lets see what happens lol.
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11-09-2015 , 09:16 PM
congrats!
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11-11-2015 , 06:58 PM
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Got the win today!

He ended up repping himself pro se, so that was a huge relief. When I handed the first exhibit to judge/op/cl, I actually handed them a copy of our petition, not the exhibit. Beyond that minor embarrassment, everything went well. Got to speak to the Judge after for a few minutes and she said it went just fine.


On the way out, OP said he's not paying and he'd rather be in jail than make these payments, so lets see what happens lol.
Congrats! Good stuff. I agree with your previous post by the way. It's obviously hard to adequately prepare for the vast number of ways your evidence or case in general might be attacked, and that's what's always scariest for me.

One time almost got all of my medical kicked at trial because affidavits for some reason (on this one case only), didn't explicitly state that the bills were reasonable and necessary (despite the fact the affidavits are copied from a seminar).

Normally this isn't such a big deal b/c you just ask for a continuance in order to subpoena all of the doctors and the judge gives the evil eye at the defense lawyer and then they just agree to let it all in. But in this case, the judge didn't want to grant me a continuance (had already picked a jury from a 250 person pool), but was reluctant to let it in. He finally just let it in after I basically just said "where I come from, we don't try to win that way" speech, in my most Texan accent.

And for what it's worth I thanked the judge after trial and he called the defense lawyer "a bastard" if I recall for trying to pull crap on me that put the judge in a bad spot. (defense attorney had been sitting on these bad affidavits for months and didn't object to them until the day of trial).
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11-13-2015 , 03:58 PM
In kind of a weird spot right now. I am non-traditional student & I have two undergraduate degrees, my first one I had a 2.18 GPA (2008) and my second time around I had a 4.0 (2014). 158 LSAT.

I've been applying to a bunch of T4s because it's hard to gauge what my likelihood of getting accepted into better schools would be, and so far I've been accepted into two T4's with both offering full scholarships.

I feel like If I apply to say a top 40-60 school I'm really just clicking buttons not having any idea if I will be accepted or not and with LSAC's $30 per report fee I don't feel like just going around blindly submitting applications.
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11-13-2015 , 04:22 PM
Aren't you super geographically limited? It's hardly clicking buttons, how many schools actually fit in that range?
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11-13-2015 , 04:22 PM
Maybe you already answered this prior, if you did I apologize, but why t4? Do you have a direct family member willing to hire you post-grad? If not, I would strongly recommend not going to any T4, full scholly or not.

Second, just because someone will say it, re-take it and score higher on LSAT.

You can get lots of good info on TLS.
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11-13-2015 , 04:31 PM
And lots of bad info too.

iirc he's going to work for his dad.
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11-13-2015 , 05:00 PM
Yeah my pops runs a three attorney civil/commercial litigation boutique on LI. I have no notions of ever working for BigLaw, as my pops is ready to retire and most, if not all, of his clients already love me as I have been a client relationship manager in the past. The three partners in the firm average between 178k and 285k yearly and I'm okay if that will be my career ceiling.

I have said that my only real three options are St Johns, Hofstra and Touro since I do not really want to move, but I'm not 100% adverse to it. I have been extremely responsible with my cash over the past 6 years and could pay for most room and board or rent out of pocket even though it's not ideal.

With my situation there is zero chance I'm putting myself through the hell of taking the LSAT again. My cold diagnostic was a 146 so there was little chance of me scoring much better than a 158.

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