You don't have to major in that area to work on it, and undergraduate gpa is going to be a major component of his application, so just make sure you don't sacrifice gpa for subject matter. But I totally agree that writing is the best skill to try to work on.

if your only goal is to go to law school, then pick whatever major you are most likely to get a 4.0 in. it absolutely does not matter what it is.

of course, if there's a chance that law school doesnt work out (there's a big chance), then pick a major you can fall back on for a job

Philosophy, math, computer science, or something else with lots of logic will help you with the LSAT. LSAT score is the most important factor for law school. 10 points is worth $100k.

submitted first law school application today. disclosure of traffic violations PITA. Havent received moving violation in over 10 years - but I had five from like when I was 17-20. Trying to remember details of them awful.

What schools made you do that?

Touro Law Center in suffolk county NY. They use a catch all by saying "...or violation of any law, excluding parking tickets"

Under that wording I disclosed all my moving violations. Even ones that were plead down to parking tickets.

Ironically NYS C&F only requires you disclose moving violations in past 10 years.

One would likely make more money at a CS related job than they would as a lawyer.

When he mentioned 100k, he didn't mean future earnings.

I know. Clearly the poster was talking about scholarships, etc.

I was simply stating from a financial standpoint it would likely be foolish for someone with a CS degree to go to law school unless it was something they really want to do with their life and they are not doing it for financial reasons.

I'm just in this weird spot where I can pretty easily pull together 80k a year in the marine industry but I don't want to wake up 40 years from now regretting not going to college or trying to do something better for the world. Hence what I want to go to law school or something of that nature

man i hate to say it but touro law school is literally like a bottom ten law school in the nation

you should absolutely not go there under any circumstances...up the LSAT if you can

you probably need to reevalute whether you should be going to law school if forced to apply to a place like that. those types of law schools are by far the most predatory institutions in america

edit- looks like you are already a paralegal or something idk

66% bar passage rate v 84% for ny schools. employment rates don't look that horrible though somehow. not sure how much gaming hte system with school funded positions they do. i guess if you are from a family of lawyers/connections and have a full ride or something it could work but seems easier just to up the LSAT and go next year

I'm in the unique situation where I walk into a guaranteed job. I just need to go to cheapest law school possible to get the degree. With my lsat... touro should be practically free or close to it. Touro also being 15 minutes from my house helps so I don't have living expenses.

Trust me, I tell at least 20-30 people per year not to go anywhere but a top 14 unless they got an "in" with family.

Im a 2L in kind of your situation and agree with your strategy. I wouldn't have gone to law school in the first place if I didn't have a job to walk in to. I also know that even if I didn't have that job I would want to make a go of it on my own. Zero interest in having a boss. So at that point law school is just a bs hoop you have to jump through in order to take a bs test to get licensed, and it doesn't matter what school you go to so take the best deal. I am attending a local school for no tuition so that's cool, but it also is a lot more like grade school than I expected. At least a part of me wishes I went to higher ranked school just so they didn't actually adhere to ABA attendance rules and I could do something more productive or enjoyable with my time.

lol wow

New lawyers don't know **** but I wouldn't consider law school a BS waste of time if you're going to be practicing law. The foundational information is, in fact, very important, even if you're going to learn most of your practice after being licensed.

just jumping a little off topic here, what do you think should be changed about law school to make new lawyers a bit more prepared for practice?

I see it on the hiring side a bunch. There are attorneys who can accurately apply the rule against perpetuities, but have no idea how to get a motion heard or a judge assigned to a Supreme Court case (NY specific rules).

More clinical practice is the answer. There's some amount of learning curve no matter what but the main problem with new lawyers is that they've never been tasked with case or client management and so they tend to lack experience with legal decision making and risk evaluation.

More writing, more client contact, more direct responsibly for filing pleadings would all go a long way towards prepping law students for the career.

Unfortunately there's not really any parallel for transactional vs litigation or criminal since business tends to be serious business compared to FEDs and small claims court or other legal aid type litigation.

I don't disagree that the foundational information is important, Its just that it can be learned in a much more efficient way than typical law school curriculum. As for the whole "teaching you how to think" thing, I am 33 and feel like I already had a pretty good grasp on thinking, but maybe at 22 I didn't.

Maybe law school is more useful to some people, but personally I don't feel like I've learned anything from it so far and it is exactly like every other level of schooling in my life. Once you get past the basic courses and are able to start choosing courses more related to actual practice, then sure those may be useful. But it would be better if you had the option to learn those things as an apprentice instead of in school.

Two weeks in and I'm not sure I'm going to make it through the third, as in, law school is not enjoyable, everyone is an uninteresting hoopjumper and I have no interest in the kinds of jobs I would do when I get out. On full scholarship so I can really drop at anytime.

Not sure if I'm posting to be talked out of it or to be told if I feel like this I should get out now or just to hear myself whine.

I think law school is fine but even if I hated it I would console myself with the fact that I would have zero job prospects ever with my lol political science degree so whatever

I def feel like law school is mostly a joke and could be efficiently taught in a year

If you're two weeks in and feel that way I'm guessing that dropping out is fine. You're not yet at the point where you've created a huge gap in your resume that you have to talk about.

Well, at 35 and not having a real job up to this point (thanks, poker! or not?), I would say this is a problem I have to deal with either way.

Either way I think I'd be inclined to follow your instincts. I enjoy my job, but it's easy to see how someone wouldn't enjoy the law thing.

Dunno, it's free & it's been 2 weeks. If you don't like the way you're doing it, try a different way.

I got through it playing online poker, not really associating with most of my classmates, drawing pictures instead of taking notes & only ever studying at the pool.

I'm also 35, & as a fellow old, I think going to school again would be a bit of a culture shock, even more so than dealing with pretentious people your own age.

I think quitting without at least trying some different things is silly. You came this far, you should at least try to enjoy it & see if there are any fields of law that might actually interest you if you give them a chance.

Thanks for the responses guys. I have taken them under consideration and decided I will be going for at least another week. The decision is complicated by other circumstances, especially the fact that I'm in a miserable location due to spouse's career and perhaps won't be with spouse much longer. I'm only attending law school because I can't imagine there's anything else I want to do here and I'm trying to hold the relationship together. Doubt this is a good reason to stay.

Also, I am the pretentious person my own age.

To find the non pretentious people in law school find the drunks.