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07-29-2009 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
"Oh, you have the 15th edition. We are only buying the 16th edition."

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Still, it's dumb of them to get greedy with the "new edition" that is 50 words more with a different ordering of cases. I just didn't buy any books 3L year. All the cases are public record and the "commentary" is useless.
Ya, I'm pretty pissed, so I just went online and noticed that 4 of my 5 classes for next fall are new editions (so no used prices) and I'm considering buying the old editions for literally pennies (for some the media mail shipping is more expensive than the book!).

between a 2002 and a 2008 book, and I really missing anything? I wouldn't think so. And like you said I can always get the cases from somewhere else if I need to.
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07-29-2009 , 09:33 PM
Done with the Maryland bar.

Whole thing was harder than bar bri's practice imo, or AT LEAST the old exams. Much longer fact patterns and new weird stuff on there on the essays. Not so much the material tested, but the way it was tested. Bunch multiple part questions, a corporations question that basically said "they wanna start an llc, what do you tell them?" They had a criminal procedure procedure (like with section numbers, with an extract that was both a civil and criminal procedure extract) question.

I'm one of the few who thought Kaplan was easier than Bar bri, but this MBE was harder than Kaplan imo, bunch of long fact pattern questions. The second half was harder imo.

Hopefully I passed, I really don't wanna have to do this all over again. Oh yeah, and they give us the questions to take home for the state day, so yes I can talk about it.
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07-30-2009 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave D
Done with the Maryland bar.

Whole thing was harder than bar bri's practice imo, or AT LEAST the old exams. Much longer fact patterns and new weird stuff on there on the essays. Not so much the material tested, but the way it was tested. Bunch multiple part questions, a corporations question that basically said "they wanna start an llc, what do you tell them?" They had a criminal procedure procedure (like with section numbers, with an extract that was both a civil and criminal procedure extract) question.

I'm one of the few who thought Kaplan was easier than Bar bri, but this MBE was harder than Kaplan imo, bunch of long fact pattern questions. The second half was harder imo.

Hopefully I passed, I really don't wanna have to do this all over again. Oh yeah, and they give us the questions to take home for the state day, so yes I can talk about it.
just finished GA bar, didn't think MBE was too bad, dumb dumb essay questions though.
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07-30-2009 , 10:01 AM
I forgot to mention that the secured transactions question on the MD bar was literally the same (some names were changed) as the ONE question bar bri had in its book. My friend went to the $150 essay review thing and they spent 40 minutes on it or something. I forgot about doing that question during studying and reviewed some commercial paper because last year had secured transactions.

The MBE sucked. There were A LOT of questions with ambiguous facts, or just not enough of them, or all the answers just weren't good enough. I just felt like a lot of questions were more like an IQ test than a law test, unlike Kaplan's practice where there were few weird questions like that imo.
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07-30-2009 , 01:01 PM
I graduate in a semester, I have no marketable skills (lol politicalsciencemajorments), and I just decided I'm too immature and irresponsible to go straight to law school. And nobody can find a job now. zomg wtf do I do
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07-30-2009 , 04:18 PM
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I graduate in a semester, I have no marketable skills (lol politicalsciencemajorments), and I just decided I'm too immature and irresponsible to go straight to law school. And nobody can find a job now. zomg wtf do I do
I found a job as a law clerk with a friend's father. Good pay, great experience and a solid foundation for law school.

Try to ship this. It will also help you figure out if law school is really what you want to do.
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07-30-2009 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by omgzacefron
I graduate in a semester, I have no marketable skills (lol politicalsciencemajorments), and I just decided I'm too immature and irresponsible to go straight to law school. And nobody can find a job now. zomg wtf do I do
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07-30-2009 , 05:07 PM
I worked for a year at a large firm as a "project assistant," which was decent pay, great benefits, easy hours, and ridiculously easy work. You learn nothing, but it's other than that it's pretty good. Kind of like putting your professional life on "hold" for a year.
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07-30-2009 , 05:40 PM
pokerz?
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07-30-2009 , 05:54 PM
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where'd you end up deciding to go?
Decided I'm not really interested in BigLaw and took the $$ at a mid ranked tier 2 over tier 1s and higher ranked tier 2s. I think I am in a good situation.
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07-30-2009 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak567
Decided I'm not really interested in BigLaw and took the $$ at a mid ranked tier 2 over tier 1s and higher ranked tier 2s. I think I am in a good situation.
Definitely a good choice if you don't wanna do biglaw. If your grades are good biglaw is definitely not closed to you either.
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07-30-2009 , 06:26 PM
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Decided I'm not really interested in BigLaw and took the $$ at a mid ranked tier 2 over tier 1s and higher ranked tier 2s. I think I am in a good situation.
Same here.
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07-30-2009 , 08:32 PM
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Definitely a good choice if you don't wanna do biglaw. If your grades are good biglaw is definitely not closed to you either.
Yeah I feel like I definitely have the ability to compete for top of the class grades too, so I'm hoping I will leave all those doors open for me.
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08-06-2009 , 12:09 PM
anyone studying constitutional law? if so what are your plans after you're done with law school? im fascinated by the content but im having trouble envisioning a lot of job opportunities within this specific field or am i completely mistaken?
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08-06-2009 , 01:41 PM
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anyone studying constitutional law? if so what are your plans after you're done with law school? im fascinated by the content but im having trouble envisioning a lot of job opportunities within this specific field or am i completely mistaken?
I lurve con. law and am currently working on a constitutional case in federal court in Georgia. The job opportunities with it are all in litigation. You would probably want to be in a litigation dept., be a plaintiff's lawyer, or work for a civil rights public interest group. You can't just handle constitutional cases and hope to stay employed, but people do still litigate over the constitution all the time.
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08-06-2009 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nautical_nessie
anyone studying constitutional law? if so what are your plans after you're done with law school? im fascinated by the content but im having trouble envisioning a lot of job opportunities within this specific field or am i completely mistaken?
Con law pervades pretty much every other area of the law, especially criminal procedure (or as it's called at my law school, constitutional criminal procedure. Only elite lawyers/firms get to handle purely con law stuff (like in front of the SC or some issue of first impression) though.

By the way get ready for Con Law to get killed for you for the bar (and maybe in law school depending on the prof). I loved it in college (took a year of it), and didn't mind it in law school since I already knew 90% of the material, but everyone else hated it because our professor couldn't teach. The bar focuses on a lot if the stupid parts of it like standing and ripeness and makes it not fun.
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08-08-2009 , 09:39 AM
my friend mentioned the same thing about the bar and how its content relates to the most "mundane" aspects of con law.. sux, really.

he also made a fairly helpful suggestion and said if you are really interested in fighting for peoples civil liberties then you can also do some pro-bono work in your free time and working a more lucrative aspect of law as my "day job". he also said you could end up hating con law within the first week of doing pro-bono work when you see the work load b/c of the lack of resources these organizations have. anyone have any experience doing this type of work for something like a non-profit organization? what would really be interesting if i could find someone who like completed an internship at an aclu chapter and pick their brain a bit.. that seems like it would be interesting. as always thanks for the info everyone.
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08-08-2009 , 10:04 AM
The best part is that no matter what the firm, in recruiting, they all act like you're a few steps away from defending the first amendment against tyranny or representing celebrity clients. "we represented borat!", "I practice exclusively first amendment/media law", "my firm let me spend 25% of my hours last year on a pro bono 4th amendment case!"
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08-08-2009 , 03:40 PM
I just took the practice test and got personal best of 160. My test is scheduled for sept 26 and I was hoping to be around 160 by then. I am pretty damn pumped right now. Time to adjust my goals I guess.

=D
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08-08-2009 , 07:25 PM
Not to discourage you at all, but my actual score was 2-3 points lower than my average practice score, and from my super reliable source of anecdotal evidence from other law students, this is pretty common.

That said, you still have a ton of time before the test, so you'll probably get up to 160+ anyway if you keep at it.
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08-09-2009 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nautical_nessie
anyone studying constitutional law? if so what are your plans after you're done with law school? im fascinated by the content but im having trouble envisioning a lot of job opportunities within this specific field or am i completely mistaken?
you kinda are, lots of international organizations greatest concern are these rights, especially human rights.
You can do anything from working for the United Nations to Amnesty International.
That being said, not many commercial companies are looking for people who are specialized in that field for very clear reasons, except for the few that may be trying to avoid law suits concerning it.
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08-10-2009 , 02:10 PM
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you kinda are, lots of international organizations greatest concern are these rights, especially human rights.
You can do anything from working for the United Nations to Amnesty International.
That being said, not many commercial companies are looking for people who are specialized in that field for very clear reasons, except for the few that may be trying to avoid law suits concerning it.
There needs to be a distinction made between "jobs" and "job opportunities." A law school student, especially from a non-first tier school, can't really consider a job with the United Nations or Amnesty International (or, to expand the options, a constitutional law firm) a "job opportunity."
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08-10-2009 , 05:29 PM
need help with law school laptop solution...

classes start in 2 weeks and i still havent settled on what im going to do (obv why not wait until the last minute)

i have a 15.4 " laptop with no battery (needs to be plugged in always) that i use all the time. it's getting older and cranky (i abuse the **** out of my PCs) and i thought about getting a netbook for law school classes

10 " screen 92 % keyboard

you guys think this will be enough for outlining, working in the library and taking notes and stuff? or should i go for a full sized laptop?

i can always use my 15.4 incher for exam time
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08-10-2009 , 05:50 PM
Just buy a real laptop and add 1% to your student loan balance.
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08-10-2009 , 06:00 PM
Aren't laptops really cheap anyway these days? I see stuff on the various "hot deals" type webpages with like $500 laptops from major manufacturers all the time.
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