Sometimes I get on disko's case for being weirdly absolutist, but he is basically right about this.

Yeah that's why I'm thinking busting my ass and trying to get as many classes as possible in might be a good idea, because I could get it up to a 3.2 or so before I send out apps, and end up graduating with over a 3.3. Though that's still below all of their 25% GPA medians so idk.

a 3.3 might not give u a boost over someone with a 3.1 but interestingly people in the really really low 2s seem to get shutout.

lawschoolnumbers.com is a helpful site for seeing how ppl's cycles play out. i suggest reaching out to ppl who have similar numbers. here's a link to my profile: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/SPLITTERVILLE

obv, at this stage of the game the only thing that matters to u is LSAT. with a 175+ u can smear feces paper, label it a personal statement, and still get into some of the schools u mentioned above. best of luck to u.

I was in the really really low 2s as well.

ha, that's interesting u dont seem like the type.

lkj... the heads-up no limit specialist with a 2.3! would've bet a million bucks ur the full ring nit with a 3.96 =)

perhaps u simply became angry and bitter after the seahawks got robbed of the super bowl!

I agree with disko on pretty much all of that except for one piece: I have a (white male) friend at UVA law who had an LSDAS gpa of 3.0, so tossing an ED there might be a viable option depending on how your numbers shake out. He did get a 180 however so take that fwiw (though disko nearly did as well iirc).

Also bear in mind that your LSDAS gpa can vary from your one listed on your transcript depending on how your school assigns point values (A+'s help in LSDAS, not at many schools; B/B+/A- go 3.0/3.33/3.66 which differed from my UG for example) and if you took any CC classes in hs or anything like that those will be added as well. You wanna take the time to factor all of that in before make any assumptions about your numbers, your LSDAS gpa is the only one that matters.

When you do decide to start getting ready for the LSAT you should give me a call/PM me, it's been my job for about half a year. Glad to see you didn't off yourself after the Iowa St. game, hope life is good.

Haha. 2.24 to be exact. Technically that's .01 below even being a C+ average at WSU.

Yea I'm aware of that, my school doesn't do +/-, but I am getting screwed because I failed 2 classes that my school let me retake that wiped out the F's on my school GPA, but obv those are included on LSDAS which is like .2 lower.

Oh wow I didn't realize that, will do for sure.

It wasn't easy

Heh you beat me, just got mine back. Needed an 85, crushed it with an 86.

nice man. you can proudly declare yourself the least ethical lawyer in the state.

i love my job. i want to work here after i graduate. it's a highly competitive type of job to get, but they do hire people straight out of law school. i am working there until graduation. at what point is it appropriate for me to approach someone here to inquire about getting a full time position after graduation?

im already aware that a ton of luck is involved and someone would have to leave around the time i'd come on to get a full time position, but im willing to tread water working for free for a while to get the position here.

Haha, ummm...

I can't. I believe I need to at least do a reasonable amount of studying on the retake.

idk man, i'd probably hold off on inquiring about the availability of full-time positions. i always feel like it's assumed that if you're interning/temping/part-timing there, you're interested in working there full-time. do u have any scheduled start/end dates? if not, then it's obvious that you'll have to take the initiative at some point and you'll have a better feel for when that right time is than anyone on here.

still, i gotta believe that if they want you, they'll say something. it's not like you're gonna just leave one day and the boss is gonna say "aww shucks, we really wanted him to work here but everyone just forgot to offer him a job!" i'd just bust my ass and make it clear that you're not viewing this job as a stepping stone or a time-killer until you graduate. when you're around ppl of authority i would drop hints like you're "looking to stay in DC after graduation" or "not really interested in corporate/public interest positions" (i'm assuming ur govt).

keep an eye out on their recruiting. i obv have no idea how your org is structured but u definitely have an inside track on entry level positions. the last thing you want to happen is for them to hire some dude for a position that you're interested in and qualified for before you graduate. if something pops up in say, february/march, i'd find someone important and tell them you want it.

damn that sucks. now i feel bad bc i told you not to study. were u at least close? i bet you just ran bad on guesses and would've passed otherwise.

anyway, it's no sweat. not like theres any reason to pass until you have to get sworn in (which is like a year+ for you). you likely have 2-3 more shots but i doubt itll come to that.

it's a smallish office, so if they have an open position, i'd definitely know. i guess just wait and see.

Meh I don't know how exactly the scaled scoring is done so I don't know how many questions away I was, but I'm guessing it's safe to say I ran bad on guessing.

I'll pass it next time. I can't be too miffed since I blew it off so badly this first time.

UVA will take him with a 3.0 if his LSAT is above the 75th and he EDs. Like 80% chance.

wow so i have to take 4 self-schedule exams this semester. For some reason i thought i had to take 3 of them from the 5-9, so monday i took my first one (12 hrs) and when i download the exam come to find out it was open for the whole exam period fml. So i planned on taken another exam tom (7) and my final one on the 9th.

After the little mix up with the first exam i decided i better double check my other exam times. Come to find out the exam i prepared to take on the 9th must be handed in by noon- its 5 hr exam. WTF why the hell would you say you have till the 9th and end the exam period at 1200. now i have to wake up and take the damn thing at like 7 am straight bull****

i was going to email the dean but the teacher did give us notice like a week and half ago i just didnt pay attention. Think I would have any valid argument that if you say we have till the 9th you should at least make the final time to hand it in reasonable for people to actually take it on the last day - like atleast 3 pm (normal times for final to being on each day is 10)

10 would be awesome. Our standard testing time is 8:30. We had no time limit on Copyright so he was okay with having 8:30 and 10:00 starting times, but it's the only time I've ever heard that happen.

I had that awesome paper last winter where my computer crashed at 2 when it was due at 3. Not just reboot but had to take the batter out and give it the old nintendo blow pm tje game trick @5 times.

My take home is only 8:30-5pm instead of last spring's 24 hours, that is much better.

But I still have 2/3 of one page written on the brainwashed Patty Hearst defense paper. The bad puns will go on all week.

Nice, I just found out the biggest stoner I know made a 126 on the MPRE. Makes me happy, because I'm sure it lifecrushed this dumb bitch that made a 126 in March, and took everybody getting their scores back today as an opportunity to remind us exactly how well she did.

I can't help but think about the sybian every time I think about her and the Symbionese Liberation Army. Honestly, until I wiki'd Patti Hearst, I though it actually was the Sybian Liberation Army, and just an unfortunate coincidence.

civ pro final tomorrow at 1 and basically gonna pull an all nighter since I got stuck in a surprise depo all day today..I say surprise because we had to do it soon and got talked into agreeing to it during a 3 hour meeting right after my K final yesterday. so have had 0 time since last final until now and it sucks.

in other news got to spend the day with 6 lawyers who couldn't help but laugh at my situation..especially after I told them its civ pro and they had to throw in the "hands on final study" plan they were putting me through

Bragging about MPRE scores = LOL. Your classmates sound absolutely ridiculous diddy.

In other news, the format for my take homes is great. All of my profs give basically the whole exam period (Nov 30th-Dec 14th) and we can download it at any time day or night. After download you get some set amount of time (usually 8 hours of mind draining hell) and you must upload your answer before the time is up. This lets you really work around your in class exams and make a schedule that makes sense. I will be taking my Environmental Law final whenever I wake up tomorrow so I am doing a final review now.

heh. That's would be an improvement over my impression, as I thought it was the Siamese L Army up until I looked it up to go as Patty for Halloween. In a related story, most 1Ls nowadays have not heard of Patty Hearst until they take Criminal law in the spring.