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06-11-2009 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LetItBe
Yeah, I mean, who do you think you work with/interact with after leaving school?
eh, I'm not going to practice law and I moved 2,000 miles away after I graduated...plus I grew up in the city where I went to law school so I already kind of had my friend group established and didn't see any reason to make new/more friends. That, and law school people suck.
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06-11-2009 , 05:28 PM
What are you gonna do now that you are done with law school?
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06-11-2009 , 07:37 PM
Social work obv.
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06-12-2009 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
eh, I'm not going to practice law and I moved 2,000 miles away after I graduated...plus I grew up in the city where I went to law school so I already kind of had my friend group established and didn't see any reason to make new/more friends. That, and law school people suck.
That makes sense. Good choice, too, IMO. Generally law school people do suck...but there are plenty of exceptions. I met some of my best friends and some awesome people in law school, but there was a lot of suckiness to wade through.
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06-13-2009 , 11:26 AM
On the less dominant side of the LSATs. I've done about 3 practice tests so far and done some studying from all the suggested books. I've scored 149, 151, and 151. A lot of the stuff in the books seems like it will help me out a lot, but I am wondering if I am gonna be effed if I still am only have to get in the mid 150s. I'm still looking to get into criminal defense, but I am wondering how bad is it that I've fallen into this potential range of scores?
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06-13-2009 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Case Closed
On the less dominant side of the LSATs. I've done about 3 practice tests so far and done some studying from all the suggested books. I've scored 149, 151, and 151. A lot of the stuff in the books seems like it will help me out a lot, but I am wondering if I am gonna be effed if I still am only have to get in the mid 150s. I'm still looking to get into criminal defense, but I am wondering how bad is it that I've fallen into this potential range of scores?
What # of points are you losing on each section?

When are you taking the LSAT? October?

If you're still losing a good deal of points on Logic Games, I'm confident that anyone who puts enough work in can see huge improvements in that section.

Do you see any patterns in the ones that give you trouble?

What about the other sections, do you feel like you're short on time or do you feel like you have enough time and you're just getting a bunch wrong? Maybe try taking one at like 1.5x the time you are alloted. Did you do any better? If so, then maybe you just need more practice at speeding things up. If you are still getting 150, then you're just not getting it and need to work on some new strategies for finding the right answer.
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06-13-2009 , 12:33 PM
The plan is for October.

The first time I did the logic game I got a 7/24 and only got worked on 2/4 games. I did the first test with no prep. Last test I was able to get 12/24 questions correct. Did really well on two games and was lost and hopeless on one and just did not have time for the last. I struggle the most on the logic games that are not like the linear or not easy to make a diagram that I've already been taught to use.

I also did quite poorly on the longer reading section. 13/24 on the last practice. 11/24 the first time I did it. I have not gotten to the part of the books that give tips on that section.

My schedule for this goes something like this:

Monday-Wednesday: study an hour and half or so from either logic bible or reasoning bible

Friday: Practice test
Saturday: More studying.

I plan on doing that until I have gotten through the bibles/LSAT super prep then doing more practice tests per week and just reviewing the bibles.

What do you think of that plan?
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06-13-2009 , 01:13 PM
Seems good this far out from October. Though I don't know if I'd bother plugging through Logic Games until I studied some strategy on them. You might develop some bad habits that while they get you the right answer, might eat up more time that correct strategy.
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06-13-2009 , 01:20 PM
I am about 150 pages into the logic games bible. I've gotten some excellent strategy in that book. I have not gotten to the advanced stuff yet.(probably why I can't attack the harder games)
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06-13-2009 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Case Closed
I am about 150 pages into the logic games bible. I've gotten some excellent strategy in that book. I have not gotten to the advanced stuff yet.(probably why I can't attack the harder games)
logic games is the section where you can definitely improve your score the most. study the **** out of the strategies, there arent that many different formulas they have to make games out of.

in the other sections is it time that's getting you, or are you finishing on time but struggling with the correct answers?

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got my loans approved yesterday to start at georgetown in the fall. **** its so much money.
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06-13-2009 , 04:04 PM
It's not so much the time in the other sections. I'm usually a quick test taker, especially for this kind of stuff. I usually finish with enough time to maybe look over one question. I do struggle to find the right answer between a couple of ones that I feel are correct.
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06-13-2009 , 06:39 PM
I think I'm going to take both the GMAT and the LSATs this school year. did any of you take both? easier to get 172+ or like 740+?
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06-13-2009 , 07:15 PM
GMAT is way easier.
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06-14-2009 , 02:53 PM
MBAs are widely and correctly considered the dumbest demographic in the graduate/professional student constellation. The GMAT is almost exactly like the SAT.
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06-14-2009 , 04:39 PM
If someone gets into med school, I assume they are extremely intelligent. If someone gets into a decent law school, I assume they are at least somewhat intelligent. MBA students are all over the map. Of course there are some who are super-smart, but in my experience even elite business school grads are often pretty unremarkable.

Then again MBAs make as much as attorneys, often more, while working no harder. So maybe they're not so dumb after all.

Edit: I took more than a few joint law/business school classes during law school, and the business school kids were about the same as the law school kids re: business but totally ****ing clueless on the law. For example, they uniformly were unable to understand the law re: takeover defenses/tender offers/etc., which has to be pretty high up there on the list of things business school grads should understand about the law.

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06-15-2009 , 02:35 AM
few fun stories from summer working:

-Insurance adjuster calls my lawyerman boss and says she is "following up", he has no idea what case it is for or what she is following up on so he says, "we are sending out for some new medical and are drafting the lawsuit" and hangs up. lol.

-I was sent to deliver mail to some other lawyer lady. Turns out she had gotten canned from where I work now and started telling me stories about what a dickhead my boss is. I get accosted for 30 minutes. I get back to the office and my boss tells me to write a memo on everything she said. snitchin'.

-i had a crossbow sitting on my desk last week

-watching my first depo, the lawyer from our place stands up while the other lawyer is aksing questions, yawns, gets a magazine and starts reading it. Then he yawns again and hits his client on the shoulder and says "sorry im just tired, your testimony is riveting". Then he grabbed a notepad and started "taking notes," but what he was really doing is making fun of his clients lack of intellect and future job prospects and handing the notepad to me.

-drove a rangerover for 3 hours down to the worst city ever for a 15 minute hearing.

-accompanied my boss to lunch one day where we 1. attended an exotic stuffed game auction 2. watched just shoot me/king of queens 3. went to target 4. watched little league baseball

-drove to the ghetto and served someone a subpoena. The lady asked me angirly who was going to pay for her day of work and I just turned around and started running. Not really I just told her I don't have a clue.

-attended a campaign committee meeting for a judge.

-i got to use a peremptory strike on a juror because he looked "smug" to me.

-attorney asked if i had any questions at voir dire and i had a big bag of nothin

-lawyer didn't tell me how to operate the overly complicated easel during a hearing and i looked ******ed trying to work it. The judge asked me if I needed help and I told him that I'm not a professional easel operator and he laughed.

-a juror was married seconds before the trial. attorney turns to me and says "honeymoon in ardmore! (oklahoma)"

-correctly identified hearsay in midst of trial

-i wrote a brief that the lawyer handed to the judge so we would "win" our hearing. law document created!

-took a picture of an amputated finger as evidence

-supplemented some book with the new version and then met the guy like an hour after that at the courthouse

-attorney made objections in the form of "objection judge that isn't fair come on!?"
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06-16-2009 , 06:33 AM
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i got to use a peremptory strike on a juror because he looked "smug" to me.
Did you get a dirty juror in return?
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06-16-2009 , 07:30 AM
Sweet, I just got the email about the summer golf event at the TPC. So excited- I hope it wasn't a mistake that they sent it to meeeeeeeeeeeeeee

In other news, working on a divorce where the wife wants $160,000 per MONTH in spousal maintenance. WOW
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06-16-2009 , 08:51 AM
Last summer when I was working in the public defender's office in Baltimore we had a client escape from custody on the way to his trial. They had the trial anyway and convicted him. Not sure if he's still out there somewhere. The prison transporter person was really really dumb.
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06-16-2009 , 04:25 PM
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Last summer when I was working in the public defender's office in Baltimore we had a client escape from custody on the way to his trial. They had the trial anyway and convicted him. Not sure if he's still out there somewhere. The prison transporter person was really really dumb.
does his sentence start from the ruling or when he is captured/detained hah
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06-16-2009 , 09:52 PM
Yeah I didn't get a chance to say earlier- the judge allowed a flight instruction (even though the guy was in prison on another conviction so he could have been running away from that, I guess). I didn't get to see the trial, but there was a codefendant, and his attorney kept saying stuff like "my client, who is here today..." The judge was on his way out (forced retirement at 70) so he kinda did whatever he wanted.

I'll never forgot how the attorney starts talking to me while I had stepped out of a hearing to use my phone and starts saying "I need you to look up trial in absentia, and what happens when a defendant runs way from trial." I thought he was messing with me because he saw me on the phone.
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06-19-2009 , 11:35 AM
I've found my new bar studying strategy:

Multitabling SNGs and the online Barbri questions.

Both profitable and educations.
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06-22-2009 , 12:32 AM
I've officially studied more for the bar in the past 3 weeks than I studied in all 3 years of law school combined.

Bar = worst thing ever.
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06-22-2009 , 12:33 PM
Haha everyone I know who just graduated hates the bar. I visited an apartment of recently graduated 3Ls looking to rent it next year, and they all looked so depressed and stressed.
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06-22-2009 , 01:05 PM
I had Paula today. She's awesome. All the hate for her singing is unwarrented, although she does go through stuff too fast.
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