lol that's a pretty ****ing brutal reverse slowroll

grats to you though dude

Congrats! I'll be taking PA in February

Sounds like quite a roller coaster ride, congrats.

I just passed my exam. The results were suppossed to be posted last friday at 9am on the supreme court's website. I started checking at like 8 in case they were up early. nothing showed up until 930 and the list was in pdf format which could not be opened due to all the site traffic. I mean they wouldn't ****ing open. I tried for like 2 hours then at 1130 it finally opened. I was so happy to see my name on that list. it was such a sick sweat.

Is it rude to ask how many times you took the bar?
Even to family (second cousin)?
It's not like its easy.

I wouldn't, it's not really necessary?

It's kinda weird though, lawyers never ask but random people I meet sometimes do.

I asked her because if the answer is once she will feel smart.
If the answer is twice I have acknowledged that I suspect it was hard and anyway I look fwd to beating it too in three yrs. Sort of like a rookie asks the big leaguer about whatever.
Not sure now how much she believed that since my school is ranked way higher than hers though.
Or maybe she's not really working for a firm when she told me she is working. I guess that's another question to avoid in these times. I'm not trying to make people feel inadequate. I genuinely care.
Who knows.

I would get into the habit of keeping your curiosity about things like bar results, grades, job hunt in check.

Man I don't understand why law students are so touchy about stuff like that. I know failure sucks, but everyone fails, esp ITE. I was pretty open with my friends about my (lack of) callbacks and OCI strikeout and all that... and I ask tehm one question if they ever heard back from XYZ firm and it's like I just asked them for home made videos they made with their wife or something.

It's not just about law school - everyone has a different level of comfort w/r/t to the level of disclosure about his/her personal life, which includes grades, job hunt, etc. Some people are free flowing and don't mind the details of their successes/failures/whatever being out there for you to know and spread to others, and some people would prefer not to have the attention or to deal with their disappointments in their own way. Unless you have established an appropriate level of comfort, it's impolite to put others in a position where they have to disclose information that they otherwise wouldn't want to, or feel rude for putting you off.

FWIW, I don't think asking a follow up question about an interview is a big deal - if the person told you that he was interviewing there, he opened the door, so to speak.

Also, the level of specificity matters in terms of politeness obv.

"Didn't you have an interview the other day? How'd that go?" is better than "Did you get the job?"

"Ugh, the exam was tough, how'd you do on it?" is better than "What'd you get on the exam?"

etc.

Open ended questions allow for acceptable answers of "Fine" "pretty good" or whatever for those that are uncomfortable with the question as well as "I got an A-" or "Ugh, I got a D" for those who don't mind. That way, you don't put the more sensitive people into a weird spot.

I agree with Karak 100%. I am open about not getting a job. So what, I failed at it this time around? People need to learn not to be so ****ing up tight.

+1 about being open about not having a job. The way I look at it, if everyone I know knows that I'm still looking, there's a chance that one of them might send a lead my way that turns into something great.

Reminds me of undergrad: if a girl didn't get a job there was some kind of group hugging therapy session, whereas guys posted our rejection letters in the hall outside of our dorm rooms. I put up my grad school rejects and even had a blank sheet of paper that read "RESERVED FOR MIT"

Last year we posted all of our ding letters on our fridge. We ran out of room.

Good strategy. I've been turning people that graduated with me on to the employers that called me after i accepted my current position.

Now that we've had bar results and all that for almost a month, I am surprised/depressed at how many classmates are still without jobs or leads.

karakzters update on that recent job possibility that came onto the radar?

interview went very well. i think i nailed it. i think they really liked me. will hear in 2-3 weeks.

aka i expect to be dinged 100%

I was just raging on the phone to the car repair shop with my car and I said the following phrase: "I detrimentally relied on the assertions you made to me on when my car would be finished."

I then thought for a second about what I just said, and thought "FML."

I am guessing you are having as much like as I am finding a ****ing half-decent car repair shop. Mine has been in twice in the last month for the same ****ing problem and it still isn't fixed.

PM me if you're interested in coming out to Baltimore to get your car fixed in the future. The guy I go to is AWESOME.

Thursday I appealed the rejection of my residency application. For why I hadn't got an AZ driver's license until noon I told the story of how my car was in the shop for 2 weeks and recounted the calls from the exasperated mechanic as he awaited a part from that obscure company known as "Suzuki."

On the appeal we have an actual hearing with swearing in and a court reporter. We have an oral argument and then question+answer. The appellant then sits in silence while they deliberate. The 'judges' are university employees doing their commitee service.

The tuition difference is roughly 19.2 vs 32.6 so they reject people for any reason they can find. I'm sure I'm losing my first case, raising but I think it's going to be more fun than any mock trial.

EDIT: I don't read Above the Law but google steered me there and it was fun to see 'Elie' show what kind of leadership we have at the law school.

Promissory Estoppel for $800 Alex.

Brag: Reading a book by David Sklansky for the research paper I gotta write.
Double Brag: It's by the Berkeley Law professor, not the guy who owns this site.

they are related

I took an Internet Law seminar in law school and wrote my 30 page paper about the UIGEA, and other internet gambling laws throughout the country. The first of two A's in all of law school.