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03-29-2009 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by qdmcg
how important are letters of recommendation from professors in the application?

i have a GPA of 3.1 but dont really know any professors. all my classes are either lectures where the professor miiiight know my face and whether or not i'm an idiot when i participate (which i dont often do) or classes of 15-20 kids where the professor will know my face but very little about me, my capacity, etc.

i'm sure someone has gone through this before. what do you do?
go to young professors and offer to write them a draft letter for them to use as a model. then they take your letter, sign their name, and you're all set.

they dont really matter unless targeted letters from alumni of school you're applying to, and even then, not really gonna do anything.
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03-29-2009 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by eviljeff
this sent me on an loltastic journey. check out this guy: http://www.lawjj.com/



dude has some sick brags and he's not afraid to come right out and tell you what his clients did. favorites are the ones where he says "court considered motion to dismiss" and then links to the order that shows he lost the motion.
lol. at first glance, i didn't think itd be that good, but every link provides a new laugh.

under computer sex crimes:

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Additionally, federal authorities may give up on your case after you retain a lawyer well-known for aggressive and effective defense.

It's also fantastic that some sections of his site are basically coaching clients before they are even clients.
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03-30-2009 , 12:18 AM
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We also can mitigate sentences based on past abuse or psychological problems. Many people accused of sex crimes have been victimized themselves and suffer from personality disorders, bipolar disorders, or other conditions.
lol


My favorite part is how it mentions "our [subject matter] lawyer" repeatedly.


Wait, no, my favorite part is this part:
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Tennessee has one of the biggest drug seizure points in the United States. There is a large checkpoint on I-40, at which people are pulled over and their cars are impounded.
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03-30-2009 , 01:08 AM
that guy must make a lot of money

lol
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03-30-2009 , 04:45 PM
discussing the exam for a class and professor said "i dont want to test you can outline and spew out info for 3 hours" and I did the Mr. Show "Welcome to laaaaaw schoool" but don't think he got it.
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03-31-2009 , 12:26 AM
Should've asked if he wanted a blowjob.
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04-02-2009 , 09:44 PM
so scalia came to my class today. he was pretty awesome. people kept asking him about bush v. gore and he got sort of mad.
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04-03-2009 , 08:36 PM
For anyone interested in what law review/seventh circle of hell is like, I've been in the library from 8am-8pm for three straight days checking footnotes for student notes.

Process:

1. I read sentence and footnote text.
2. Author/2L hands me numerous sources corresponding to each line.
3. I read source and make sure it supports the sentence in question.
4. If it does, we move on. If it doesn't we find the support in one of the 100+ sources they have laid out.
5. Also, check grammar, blue book citation form, length, quote accuracy along the way.

Now do this for 1500+ footnotes, each taking 1-2 minutes.
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04-03-2009 , 10:10 PM
I know most law school classes just have one final at the end of the term, but how many classes (besides legal writing I guess) also have papers?
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04-03-2009 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by schundler
I know most law school classes just have one final at the end of the term, but how many classes (besides legal writing I guess) also have papers?
most that have papers, only have papers. though some classes will be 2/3 with the option of 1/2 credits for writing paper in addition to exam.


i can't imagine ever taking a class with a graded paper
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04-04-2009 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Eyedea
For anyone interested in what law review/seventh circle of hell is like, I've been in the library from 8am-8pm for three straight days checking footnotes for student notes.

Process:

1. I read sentence and footnote text.
2. Author/2L hands me numerous sources corresponding to each line.
3. I read source and make sure it supports the sentence in question.
4. If it does, we move on. If it doesn't we find the support in one of the 100+ sources they have laid out.
5. Also, check grammar, blue book citation form, length, quote accuracy along the way.

Now do this for 1500+ footnotes, each taking 1-2 minutes.
I thought Notes and Comments editor was supposed to be the slacker editor position.
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04-04-2009 , 11:47 AM
Well it is.

This week is basically the only period of solid work and come Monday at noon, I'm done with LR forever.

I still get to whine though.
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04-04-2009 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by schundler
I know most law school classes just have one final at the end of the term, but how many classes (besides legal writing I guess) also have papers?

Most* law schools require that you write one academic style paper before you graduate. Beyond that, seminars will sometimes be the option of a ~20 page paper or a regular exam.


*Not scientifically done
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04-05-2009 , 08:31 PM
fk I don't want to be a lawyer anymore. ****- did I ever?
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04-06-2009 , 09:20 AM
Left in law school (and between today and June) I have:

-8 hours of class

-5 hours of law review work

-30 hours of internship

-Two 2-credit finals
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04-06-2009 , 10:55 PM
Hypo:

Professor teaches the same class at two different schools (School A in the fall and School B in the spring). Only two (very) old exams are available at school B. Professor just anounced today that he would entertain absolutely no questions about past exams.

A student at school B is friends with a school A student who has more recent exam copies.

Is there anything wrong with school B student getting those exams from school A student?

What difference, if any, does it make that school B's code of conduct says "obtaining a copy of an unadministered exam" is a violation?

Discuss Pls.
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04-06-2009 , 11:07 PM
Remi,

Nothing wrong. Its still an old test, not an "administered exam" and just keep it quiet.
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04-07-2009 , 09:30 AM
remi,

me thinks its been administered.


that seems to say that if you go into the office and he left a copy of this year's test in the photocopier, you shouldn't take a copy for yourself.


though if its real old, might not be very helpful.

Last edited by Noah.; 04-07-2009 at 09:38 AM.
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04-07-2009 , 10:09 AM
So I've got a 'meet the IP employers' thing tonight.

There are 15 different firms/companies coming, with an average of 2 people per place.

I doubt there will be 30 students there (I could be wrong and it could be as much as 60).

Anyway, what type of crap am I supposed to ask these people/how does this work? I haven't gone to something like this before.
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04-07-2009 , 11:36 AM
what year are you?

are these actually people hiring or like a "come meet people from places that don't hire you unless you have 10 yrs firm experience"?

maybe look at the list, focus on a few and get some specifics and questions you can ask
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04-19-2009 , 09:11 PM
Bump 'cause its close to finals and I have a question.

I'm in a 15 person class which there aren't any old outlines for-- Law & Economics. I'm one of like 4 people who actually took notes, participated, read, etc. There are actually people who haven't bought the book, almost never came to class, or played on facebook when they did show up...Predictably I'm getting random texts/emails from the lazy people who want my notes.

How douchey is it not to share them?

On one hand, I'm usually more than happy to share outlines other people made. But It just seems unreasonable for people to not do a single thing for the entire semester and then just casually ask for my entire set of notes.
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04-19-2009 , 09:22 PM
Yeah, I'm super open with most stuff, but there's no way I give an entire semester's worth of notes.

If people were like, "hey i missed class on 3/14, 4/2, 4/14....and was hoping you had notes to those classes" I'd do it without thought.

I have access to all the law review outlines which most others don't and I share those all the time, because I didn't do all the work for them.

I have a couple classes where I had plenty of absences, didn't take notes, but I'd only ask someone for their class notes if I had hooked them up in past or if I can offer trade of a law review outline.
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04-19-2009 , 10:09 PM
That's what I was thinking...

A girl that's not even in the class just emailed me for the notes. "Hey can you please send me your L & E notes? I'd owe you even though I did give you those nice ConLaw outlines earlier this semester"

WTF? Law school students are especially sleazy around exam time.
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04-19-2009 , 10:20 PM
lol.

I know for a fact once that this kid didn't take notes once.

he e-mails me like 3-4 dates for notes. as soon as I see who it is, i message someone else, and he's e-mailed them 3-4 other dates. nice try guy.

though i usually feel like a bum saying "sorry i dont have notes because i dont take them" or whatever cause it makes me sound like a liar or a d-bag.
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04-19-2009 , 11:46 PM
I use the old "take incomprehensibly fractured" notes trick. The journal-specific outline bank situation is kind of tricky ethically/game theory wise, but I think your treatment is the only reasonable one.


US News rankings have leaked, by the way. FSU didn't do great but we were terrified that we were going to drop into the 60s because allegedly(but credibly, to be clear, this is from inside sources) we accidentally sent ~40 "You're accepted!" letters to denied applicants and then choose to accept them anyway to avoid the PR problem.

It is absolutely insane how gamed those statistics are now that I've kinda looked at it from the inside(the weird microecosystem of Florida having essentially no big law employment and no single good law school creates some interesting drama).
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