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10-28-2018 , 06:43 PM
I really don't think a tax LLM is the right thing for most people. My situation is relatively unique where the money really doesn't mean much to me. I am giving up almost 300k (1 year of biglaw+basically 90k in tuition+expenses) just to get a job I actually want.

It's my own fault really. When I went to law school I had my heart pretty set on antitrust M&A/lit work. It didn't take long for me to realize I wouldn't get to do any of the semi-fun stuff and 90+% of what I write would basically be active attempts to ignore the elephants in the room (basically economic issues that still haven't been resolved/argued in court.)
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10-30-2018 , 03:50 PM
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I don’t think you can amend. Just bring up at trial. You wouldn’t amend a child support motion for every time more money is due. Also you don’t really know it’s them.
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Guys, "a black car parked in my client's driveway and the defendant has a black car" is not going to fly in court of law.
Got some more information that pretty much confirms it is them. Without getting into specifics, these two clowns essentially admitted to being there/doing this with their own social media posts. They were bragging about it.

Talked to my mentor about it. His thoughts were essentially get your ducks in a row, i.e. affidavit, officer report, camera footage, etc. and ask to meet with respective counsel. Tell them what you have, show it to them, and negotiate a settlement based on that information. It would come out in discovery anyways, but they may be willing to work it out now.

I honestly have no idea how this would change the value of the case, if at all. I assume it raises the value, but its harder to quantify, and honestly, I just don't have the exp necessary to ballpark it.

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10-31-2018 , 12:32 AM
One year in biglaw down.

*shrug*
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10-31-2018 , 07:53 PM
I'm... having serious second thoughts about Big4. I got two 125+10 sign on+5 bar offers (1 started with 120 then one firm matched). That's literally bottom of what I was thinking and less than what some people got last year and the year before. I have the same feeling as when I check with the intent to call 125 and villain bets exactly 125.

And 60 or 70k less than what I can get at Sidley... or 40-50k less than what investment banks were offering me last year (~90 + signing bonus + unknowable bonus that turned out to be about 70-100 last year).

I was expecting them to hike salaries a bit to like 135 to just at least be "competitive", but apparently not.
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10-31-2018 , 08:29 PM
Try it out and if you don’t like it could always leave?
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10-31-2018 , 09:08 PM
Wow, I had no idea they paid that much less. Biglaw tax seems like a better option, no?
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11-01-2018 , 09:57 AM
Registered for NY bar this morning. Guess I finally have to take this thing.
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11-01-2018 , 02:35 PM
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Wow, I had no idea they paid that much less. Biglaw tax seems like a better option, no?
I am going to try for it yeah. But I have to be sure it’s at least like 30% structuring and not 100% due diligence. Otherwise I rather take the 125.

Last edited by grizy; 11-01-2018 at 02:45 PM.
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11-27-2018 , 02:28 AM
sup bros.

that is all.
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11-27-2018 , 03:12 AM
Yo!
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11-29-2018 , 10:51 AM
Something about a brown trout.
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12-03-2018 , 12:52 PM
It's been a while since I've posted here. Fun updates:

1. My boss tried to change our deal and it was BS, so me and the other guy (25 years my senior) left and started up our own law firm. I wear shorts to work and stuff now and show up whenever and leave whenever. Ha!

2. I lost a trial last year where the Defendant (on Halloween) had been to 7 bars and was driving the wrong way down the street. On the stand, he got flustered and said "look, it's my fault, okay? just pay her the medical bills". The defense lawyer tried to argue that "fault" and "negligence" and that he ended up going the wrong way down the street due to construction and the jury came back no negligence. Juror tells me afterwards that they thought the guy was completely full of it, but that my witness (the chiropractor) was cocky (he was). File a motion for new trial, and somehow the insurance company who never pays us no matter what paid us something semi-decent to settle.

3. A few months ago I tried a car wreck where and eyewitness said my lady pulled out of a school loading zone the wrong way and was tboned by a cement truck. She was adamant that the cement truck got over into her lane on top of her and "pit maneuvered" her vehicle to where she ended up in front of the truck. I hired an expert witness and by the time he gave a depo and testified, his bill was 18 or 19k, which of course I paid with my own personal money. FUN TIMES. We won...verdict was $250k and 8ish of the 12 jurors wanted to give us almost twice that. Of course, the bastards are appealing it.
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12-06-2018 , 11:33 AM
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. . . started up our own law firm. I wear shorts to work and stuff now and show up whenever and leave whenever. Ha! . . .
Quite mistakenly, I thought this was why everyone went to law school. Why go through law school to be an employee? The best thing is that you'll make a lot more money and have a lot more fun than your colleagues who work in big law firms and the icing on the cake is that you get to be a human being, have your own opinions, and do what you want to do.
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12-06-2018 , 01:52 PM
Well, for starters, the profession is fundamentally one of apprenticeship and it’s very hard to teach yourself how to lawyer. Some people have no desire to be small business owners as well.

That being said, I dig it.
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12-06-2018 , 06:29 PM
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. . . the profession is fundamentally one of apprenticeship and it’s very hard to teach yourself how to lawyer. . . .
I'm glad I didn't know that.
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12-07-2018 , 04:01 PM
Last law school final ever is next Wednesday. I've decided I am not studying and it really makes this time of year a lot less stressful.
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12-08-2018 , 12:26 AM
Congrats!
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12-08-2018 , 09:06 AM
2013 grad. Lawyered for a few years and hated it. Quit my job in Jan 2017 and have been running my own non-law business since spring of last year. Law knowledge helps with some contracts and other work, but I'm infinitely more happy out of the law field.
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12-08-2018 , 06:34 PM
Were you K-JD? What do you think you evaluated incorrectly when you made the decision to go (assuming the decision wasn’t correct for you)?
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12-10-2018 , 07:29 PM
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Quite mistakenly, I thought this was why everyone went to law school. Why go through law school to be an employee? The best thing is that you'll make a lot more money and have a lot more fun than your colleagues who work in big law firms and the icing on the cake is that you get to be a human being, have your own opinions, and do what you want to do.
+1. Hanging a shingle post-grad has been best decision of my young career
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12-12-2018 , 11:14 AM
I am sort of hanging a shingle come June. I am joining a 3 partner firm as the lone associate. I will be making below market rate with health insurance; but I get to keep 75% of anything I originate.

So I'll be hustling and networking for as much business as possible.
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12-28-2018 , 10:28 AM
Studying for the bar exam sucks. Just a daily reminder about how much material you do not know lol. See you guys in March.
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12-28-2018 , 07:30 PM
Hope everyone had a refreshing and relaxing holiday season!

Also, Pr0gress1ve is the nut low insurance company to deal with ime. They've been a nightmare in negotiations so far.
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12-29-2018 , 04:11 PM
I would love some opinions from you lawyers and law students about whether law school would be worthwhile for me. Here are some pertinent facts:

I’m a physician (ob/gyn) with strong aspirations of making an actual difference in how women are treated in contemporary American society particularly with regard to abortion rights. I’m quite happy with my professional life but as I get older I wonder if I could do more good (or damage, depending on your politics) with a law degree. I would be 50 years old if I started school in 2020.

I’m good at taking tests. 1300 SATs, top of class in med school, top scores on board exams, blah blah. So I would hope I could do well on the LSATs.

I live in Las Vegas and have no interest in quitting my job. So my only option is to go to UNLV in some kind of part time capacity (which is a thing there, I think.)

I have a famous lawyer friend (argues cases in Supreme Court and is on CNN and stuff) with whom I had this conversation and he said I shouldn’t go to law school unless I have a burning desire to do so. He also said I could accomplish my goals by participating in the penning of amicus briefs for abortion rights cases in which i have interest and insight.

Some thoughtful advice would be much appreciated.
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12-29-2018 , 06:29 PM
Going to law school in your position seems like an incredibly bad idea to me.
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