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07-08-2023 , 10:13 PM

#1651

Schlitz mmmm

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07-09-2023 , 12:49 PM

#1652

Phat Mack

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Sunday's scripture from St. John.

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07-09-2023 , 06:41 PM

#1653

REDeYeS00

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yes, yes it is
another delightful demonstration of his rightful claim to be the original car on the hea-van john-col train
not sure what else to do here

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07-09-2023 , 06:47 PM

#1654

REDeYeS00

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listening to this again right now, and it still stands up to the ear test.
Shorter
Hancock
Workman
Chambers

please understand, Wayne is imprinting his lips upon the original footprints,
Miles smiled on that riff almost a year later.

do not underestimate the power Wayne Shorter song writing had on Miles' success.

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07-09-2023 , 07:05 PM

#1655

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and Ron Carter and Tony Williams would replace Workman and Chambers, launching the second great quintet.
Footprints could easily be in the top ten of all time jazz compositions

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07-14-2023 , 11:50 AM

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07-14-2023 , 12:25 PM

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Zeno

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Dizzy broke his horn! That’s why Sonny rolled his eyes.

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07-14-2023 , 06:37 PM

#1658

REDeYeS00

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live video from '65
and a unique opportunity to watch John (and the rest of the band) play in this era.
especially Elvin sweating every ounce of effort to keep the rhythm going

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07-14-2023 , 06:59 PM

#1659

REDeYeS00

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that live video sounds so sloppy at times but in many ways couldn't be anything but.
boundary testing should encourage safe failure.
how else can you determine the edges of personal limits and where to explore next?

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07-14-2023 , 08:08 PM

#1660

Schlitz mmmm

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exactly

Vernon says 'You have to give yourself permission.' there's harmony out there, untapped and melody

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07-15-2023 , 12:13 AM

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live video from '65
and a unique opportunity to watch John (and the rest of the band) play in this era.
especially Elvin sweating every ounce of effort to keep the rhythm going

I am sorry to say that this one left me completely in the dust. Couldn't get it at all. I'll try again later, or tomorrow. My mind needs to be in a different state.

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07-15-2023 , 06:21 PM

#1662

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I am sorry to say that this one left me completely in the dust. Couldn't get it at all. I'll try again later, or tomorrow. My mind needs to be in a different state.

no need for sorry around these parts
sympathy and regret are not the focus of our conversation
and your opinion won't likely offend anyone's ears.

the exploration in this recording makes my mind whirl.
especially because it is not performed within the confines of a studio,
instead while wearing suits on a stage in front of a crowd of a thousand belgians.

each member of the band express their passion and energy with the sounds and bounds of elastic song structure.

a jazz sandbox littered with the coolest cats in the castle competition

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07-16-2023 , 01:25 PM

#1663

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Seeing her at Newport in August. She's only 23 years old.

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07-16-2023 , 02:53 PM

#1664

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Samara did find the right genre for her incredibly Joyous voice.
thank you for the introduction.

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07-16-2023 , 03:58 PM

#1665

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may i recommend recalibrating your jazz ears every few weeks with this wise one.

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07-16-2023 , 04:30 PM

#1666

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a ride on a log along the flume of youtube brought me full circle back to this.
hey i couldn't resist another opportunity for aural cleansing and rediscovery of the center.

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07-16-2023 , 06:47 PM

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John Cole

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a ride on a log along the flume of youtube brought me full circle back to this.
hey i couldn't resist another opportunity for aural cleansing and rediscovery of the center.

My late friend Andy and I used to sit around playing chess for hours while listening to Coltrane back when we were in high school. This has always been a favorite and reminds me of my old friend.

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07-16-2023 , 06:54 PM

#1668

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and my brother and i would occupy hours playing cribbage to the same soundtrack.
i hope Andy is at rest in a peaceful state

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07-19-2023 , 02:10 PM

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With love to lead the way / I found more clouds of gray / Than any Russian play could guarantee.

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07-21-2023 , 11:49 PM

#1670

Schlitz mmmm

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Sunday's scripture from St. John.

oh yeah. NYC cab in the rain. lil jazz club tucked away somewhere. that is inspired jazz messenger stuff. the infinite +1 errr nothingness without end

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07-22-2023 , 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Schlitz mmmm

oh yeah. NYC cab in the rain. lil jazz club tucked away somewhere. that is inspired jazz messenger stuff. the infinite +1 errr nothingness without end

One theory I have read is that at this sage of his career, St. John was ignoring music theory and just concentrating on tone. I *may* have gotten this impression from Ben Ratliff's Theory of a Sound.

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07-22-2023 , 06:24 PM

#1672

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With love to lead the way / I found more clouds of gray / Than any Russian play could guarantee.

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opportune time to pause and acknowledge the jazz contributions of George Gershwin.
his standards were met while being played by most all the greatest,
including this one.
composed by George, conducted by Gil
roster also showcases Miles, Cannonball, Chambers, Philly Joe Jones, and Jimmy Cobb
Buzzard Song from Porgy and Bess

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07-22-2023 , 06:54 PM

#1673

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and in case you didn't notice, this was exactly the same year Kind of Blue was recorded
here's a tube channel with p&b
we'll just have to see if the link works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KiT...0eaBd0&index=1

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07-22-2023 , 09:38 PM

#1674

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sage icwydt. far out, maaaan. start pushin' somebody!

Spoiler:

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07-23-2023 , 04:03 PM

#1675

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sage icwydt. far out, maaaan. start pushin' somebody!

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recordings of But Not For Me include this list:

Miles Davis – Bags' Groove (1954)
Chet Baker – Chet Baker Sings (1954)
Modern Jazz Quartet – Django (1956)
Kenny Burrell – Introducing Kenny Burrell (1956)
Red Garland – Red Garland's Piano (1956)
Ahmad Jamal – At the Pershing: But Not for Me (1958)
Ella Fitzgerald – Ella Fitzgerald Sings the George and Ira Gershwin Songbook (1959).
John Coltrane – My Favorite Things (1961)
Sam Cooke – My Kind of Blues (1961)
Dexter Gordon – Take the A Train (1967)

here's Miles with Sonny Stitt, Chambers, Cobb, and Kelly; Amsterdam '60

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