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clean out yer earwax schlitzy

he's clearly saying 'a loaf supreme' and obviously referring to that meatloaf recipe where you mix in pork with the beef instead of using bread crumbs, add bacon, and make your own tomato sauce instead of just dumping ketchup on top.
tha **** you think yer listening to, some low brow ****??

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09-16-2021 , 07:16 PM

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REDeYeS00

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Ptah, the El Daoud 1970

Alice Coltrane — piano, harp (on track 3),
Pharoah Sanders — tenor sax (on tracks 1 & 4, right channel), alto flute (on track 3), bells
Joe Henderson — tenor sax (on tracks 1 & 4, left channel), alto flute (on track 3)
Ron Carter — bass
Ben Riley — drums

all tracks written by Alice, recorded in the basement of her house on Long Island

if the title track spanning the first 14 minutes doesn't interest you (i hope that it does if you give it a listen), please stick it out to hear Turiya and Ramakrishna...an amazingly beautiful composition, particularly with this ensemble.

and Blue Nile

and Mantra

Last edited by REDeYeS00; 09-16-2021 at 07:44 PM.

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09-16-2021 , 07:40 PM

#1078

REDeYeS00

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it seems (unfairly) common opinion for Alice to be placed in the shadow of her husband, but she is a gifted composer and musician, deserving to stand on her own pedestal right beside him.

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09-17-2021 , 12:58 AM

#1079

Phat Mack

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Originally Posted by REDeYeS00

if the title track spanning the first 14 minutes doesn't interest you (i hope that it does if you give it a listen), please stick it out to hear Turiya and Ramakrishna...an amazingly beautiful composition, particularly with this ensemble.

Amazingly beautiful. I kept getting lost and felt that her left hand was sending me clues in case I wanted to be found. A+

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09-17-2021 , 06:35 PM

#1080

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Originally Posted by REDeYeS00

and Blue Nile

took me longer than it should have to identify the song, but Blue Nile is heavily influenced by her late husband's song Equinox from the 1964 album Coltrane's Sound

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09-28-2021 , 03:20 PM

#1081

Zeno

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Perfect Jazz for a Tuesday (or any day):

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10-12-2021 , 10:55 PM

#1082

Schlitz mmmm

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Psalm is my fave, redeye, because it sounds like a steamy NYC night. city lights and wet pavement

ill find some examples of 'out' playing in the next couple of days, and post 'em

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10-13-2021 , 09:50 PM

#1083

REDeYeS00

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Originally Posted by Schlitz mmmm

Psalm is my fave, redeye, because it sounds like a steamy NYC night. city lights and wet pavement

ill find some examples of 'out' playing in the next couple of days, and post 'em

looking forward to hearing what you post

the later avant garde, or 'out', jazz as you called it...to me...is about the emotions they evoke.
i may not always be in the mood to listen to a particular song because the emotion does not fit with my state of mind at the time, and this is often the case, but when it does it can be a powerful experience.

Psalm is one of those songs i find myself being able to listen to no matter my mood.

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10-14-2021 , 01:16 AM

#1084

Phat Mack

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I'm curious, do you guys pick songs off of A Love Supreme and listen to them, or do you always listen to the whole album?

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10-14-2021 , 09:25 AM

#1085

REDeYeS00

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typically i'm listening to it because i'm in the mood for the whole thing and have the time (often while working at the computer).

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10-23-2021 , 01:42 AM

#1086

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Dizzy playing 'Round Midnight

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10-23-2021 , 08:38 PM

#1087

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written by Monk, played by Dizz and Bird.
how can you go wrong?

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10-24-2021 , 05:36 PM

#1088

Zeno

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Sunday Jazz:

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10-25-2021 , 02:32 AM

#1089

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written by Monk, played by Dizz and Bird.
how can you go wrong?

I don't know anything about Bud Powell, but he is highly though of. He's not shy about playing Monk's song on the piano in this recording. I like everything about this recording.

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10-25-2021 , 02:33 AM

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Sunday Jazz:

OK, but would be much improved with a slinky blonde.

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10-25-2021 , 01:39 PM

#1091

Zeno

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OK, but would be much improved with a slinky blonde.

Agree. Blowing the sax no doubt.

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10-25-2021 , 09:42 PM

#1092

REDeYeS00

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Originally Posted by Phat Mack

I don't know anything about Bud Powell, but he is highly though of. He's not shy about playing Monk's song on the piano in this recording. I like everything about this recording.

give Bud Powell's wiki page a read, especially the 'reception and influence' section. there's no need for me to repeat what it says here...he shaped numerous jazz pianists you likely know very well.

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10-25-2021 , 10:42 PM

#1093

Schlitz mmmm

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Originally Posted by REDeYeS00

I can dig it, but out playing by definition offers a contrast to coherence and melody and phraseology and groove/ rhythm, so it can be just another color on the tapestry and not totally dictate the mood

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10-26-2021 , 05:29 PM

#1094

Zeno

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Some foot stomping Jazz to enliven your Tuesday Blahs:

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10-31-2021 , 08:48 PM

#1095

REDeYeS00

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this is so much fun

one of my top 10 jazz songs of all time. due to contractual reasons 'George Lane' is listed, but it's really Eric Dolphy

Alto Saxophone – George Lane
Bass – Art Davis, Reggie Workman
Drums – Elvin Jones
Flute – George Lane
Piano – McCoy Tyner
Soprano Saxophone, Alto Saxophone – John Coltrane
Tenor Saxophone – John Coltrane
Trumpet – Freddie Hubbard

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there are 7 artists/instruments listed above. i recommend putting on the headphones, closing your eyes, and listening to Ole (the song, not the album) seven different times, each time focusing on a single instrument. there are so many nuances that tend to get lost when just listening to the song as a whole.

for several minutes you won't hear the instrument you're focusing on, but that underscores the importance of silence in a composition.

i'm willing to bet if you go through this exercise you will have a heightened ability to hear all seven at the same time and how brilliantly they interact with each other.

the plucked bass vs bowed bass interplay between Davis & Workman that starts around 10:30 is mindblowing.

loaded up Ole again tonight and it still stands up. no question it's squarely in my top five jazz song ranking, the exact position to be determined.

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10-31-2021 , 09:05 PM

#1096

REDeYeS00

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but in the end it's all about McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones.
the song isn't anywhere close to being the same without their contribution, even with Trane and Dolphy playing.