Are they? I'm not living my life as I choose. I mean I am, but I'm not.

There are resources for the homeless. In general, they have to agree to get off drugs and they will enter a program to help them find work and get their life back in order. It's not a huge secret that most homeless people simply don't want to get off the street. They like the lifestyle.

I don't say where I live exactly, but I will tell you that I live in walking distance of multiple apartments that are specifically priced for people who are recently off the street. The apartments are priced on a sliding scale, and it is affordable for people who are working low-income jobs, collecting social security, etc. A common first job for the homeless is trash cleanup, etc.

Most of the successful services I'm aware of a privately funded, which focus on health care, finding jobs, taking care of pets, etc.

Then you hear about how San Francisco paid $60k for each homeless person living in a tent last year, and it makes you wonder what the **** is going on. It would have been cheaper to simply move them into an apartment, since even SF isn't that expensive.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/ar...e-16001074.php

The further problem is NIMBYism. The same people who demand changes, protest, and vote for further gov't assistance will turn around and block any development that may devalue their property and neighborhood. There are multiple mixed-used apartments, and the city of LA now requires some housing to be mixed-income:

https://urbanize.city/la/post/la-cou...housing-policy

I don't think there would be enough gov't or privately-funded resources to get everyone off the street in normal times. We now see a massive increase in homeless, and we live in a toxic social state where we're verboten from looking at each other. Even if a homeless person wanted to get a service, go on a job interview, or find an apartment, they can't. Obviously, they can't take a remote job because there are no open coffee shops or libraries, so they have to get a restaurant job. Oh, right, all the restaurants are closed or near-closed now.

Here are stats from June 2020, and it's significantly worse now: https://laist.com/2020/06/12/homeles...geles-2020.php

The Methodists don't allow alcohol, but I assume there is some unofficial laxity. My brother is 62 next week, and has been an alcoholic since his teens. Unless you are capable of conjuring up miracles, you are not going to get him off it. Until last year, he has worked his entire adult life. He has had every opportunity in life. He is a walking disaster area.


I don't believe that for one moment.

One of the weird features of LA is, if you been here any significant amount of time, you would have friends that are or were homeless. There are a wide variety of people with opinions that don't align with our own.

A major disaster for the homeless was closing down the gyms. There are tons of gyms in LA, and they mostly exist as shower centers for people living on the street, many who would then go to work. Of course, closing down the gyms and the restaurants in tandem exacerbated the problem. I doubt these people want to be on the street.

On the other hand, there are many people who's been on the street their entire adult life, 10, 20, 30 years, or more. At some point, someone would have to wake up and decide to do something else if they were truly miserable in their situation.

One of my friends was telling me about an encampment that got a little extreme where he lives. He eventually called the police and felt horrible about making this call, but [an event] was the last straw for him. The officer told him that, out of the all homeless he's spoken to, only 1 ever accepted services to get off the street. The rest outright told him they liked having the freedom to live as they do.

I have another friend who worked in an ER, which is more or less the hospital service for the homeless. Same stories, same situations. They don't accept or want help, even when it's handed to them.

A guy I was renting a place from in Austin worked at a church in Berkeley, CA. His job was to go around and talk to homeless. The church offered them a place to sleep, food, employment, and transitional housing. He had to talk to 100 homeless people a week, give or take. He told me he maybe got maybe one yes a month.

You can't help people that don't wan the help. Wether or not they are simply dejected to their situation, dealing with various issues, or lying is a nuanced debate.

i think the comment is relatively true. they dont want to be poor, but also dont want to have to do the things that other people not on the street need to do to survive and live.

there are a large,maybe majority of them being younger males that do like the life of not working, doing drugs and stealing things with no penalties.

years back the homeless were mostly those with mental issues of some kind and couldnt fit in. decades back they were put in institutions. but those were abolished for cruelty reasons and costs. so those in particular transitioned to the streets. they are out there in the mix but are not the present homeless problem.

if you notice the states and or places that refuse to give very much in aid to the homeless have little homeless issues. why is that. easy, the homeless just move to where they can get away with it and get handouts. i dont blame them.

if you just watch tv news you get the idea that all the homeless are displaced because of society and big business making it too hard for them to keep a job. but when you look deeper almost or most have made their own way of life that got them in this spot, and after being displaced not trying hard enough to get back in action.

Well, today the daughter and granddaughter visited. I found out I need to lay in a store of snacks for the granddaughter.

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WTF, you don't give your granddaughter Twix?

In the future I will. I spoil her. But I only have snacks for grown ups.

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Twixotic

* Chocolate is not grown up food

* I like to each chocolate

* Therefore, I am not grown up

What's the matter with cookies? Cookies are an all-the-time food.

just nothing with corn syrup in it. for you as well.

I detest Sundays. Probably not the best day for me to correct papers, but I will try to be open-minded. Still, I hate Sundays.

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If you think that you don’t like Sundays you should have tried living in the UK in the 1970’s. There was absolutely nothing to do, by the time 4 o’clock rolled around the Kings Singers (barbershop quartet) came on the radio, and there was nothing left to do but contemplate eternity; Douglas Adams called this “The long dark teatime of the soul”

The only thing tolerable about today is the raging storm rattling the windows.

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John: You can't hate Palm Sunday. That dooms you to Hell. Revise your statement and then listen to some Jazz to calm down.

I Love Everybody.

I hate all Sundays.

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Who's posting under Zeno's name?

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Clocks have gone forward here, summer nights



Probably the only movie where the “Teenage kids” are obviously waiting for hip replacements.

Who* was that guy that said something about foolish consistencies?


*Or is it Whom?

He also mentioned hobgoblins, so not entirely to be trusted.

Who is correct. Emerson.

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